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Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 3687, unwnd wrote:Why do you keep forgetting that I'm a combined neapolitan neighborizer
Again, roles don’t work that way

"combined neapolitan neighborizer" would neighborize regardless of the neapolitan result, barring extra modifiers
are you CERTAIN that's not the case? I've been pretty abrasive about this, but in the interest of fairness I'll give you the chance to double-check your side.
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Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:52 am

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Actually,

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Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 3700, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3687, unwnd wrote:Why do you keep forgetting that I'm a combined neapolitan neighborizer
Again, roles don’t work that way

"combined neapolitan neighborizer" would neighborize regardless of the neapolitan result, barring extra modifiers
are you CERTAIN that's not the case? I've been pretty abrasive about this, but in the interest of fairness I'll give you the chance to double-check your side.
Here is the most simple explanation for you

I target someone
If that person is vanilla townie
I get '(person) is a vanilla townie' and then they join my PT
If not
I get '(person) is not a vanilla townie'
I have yet to see the instance of what happens if they are not vanilla townie, because both of my results were just vanilla townie and they joined the PT
I asked the mod to clarify whether or not someone is neighborized if they are not VT
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Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:03 am

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Scum voting me after their buddy has been outted.
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Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:26 am

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@Gamma

I got the mod to clarify

I can indeed neighborize people who are not VT, the two roles work individually but still work on the target
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Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:24 am

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UNVOTE:
Okay so the role makes sense now, and while I still think a lurker targeting a lurker is weird as all heck for the neighborhood side I don't think it's too weird for the neap side?
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his claim is weak and super scum indicative, plus it conflicts with rolestopper + BP + UB
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Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:27 am

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i mean, i think abr is scum because of the terrible hammer
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Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 3698, unwnd wrote:Instead what happened is that both Me/Umlu/Vax all agreed to keep me hidden, and for Vax to claim Neapolitan Neighborizer. This is all a huge lesson on how inefficient most gambits are and just lead to confusion. I don't think however that what happened was necessarily bad regardless, because now most claims are out and we have time to sift through them. I have a feeling scum had a rolecop anyways
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Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:34 am

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MATE
dude just said the neighborizer works on anyone, not just VT
You sure you aren't scum DGB?
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Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 3708, Gamma Emerald wrote:MATE
dude just said the neighborizer works on anyone, not just VT
You sure you aren't scum DGB?
Then

(1) What's the point of "Napolitan?" What does that mean?
(2) Anyone, does that mean scum, too?
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Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 3708, Gamma Emerald wrote: You sure you aren't scum DGB?
Why? YOU just asked for clarifications. I want more clarifications.
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Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:37 am

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neapolitan checks if a person is VT or not VT
a VT result = conftown, a not VT could be scum or town PR
anyone does mean scum but both n1 and n2 gave VT results
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Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 3711, Gamma Emerald wrote:neapolitan checks if a person is VT or not VT
a VT result = conftown, a not VT could be scum or town PR
anyone does mean scum but both n1 and n2 gave VT results
Theoretically, that could be a scum role, no?
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Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:46 am

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yes
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Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:55 am

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I don't think my role being a scum role would ever make sense. The only implication you could make is that the Neapolitan aspect is untrue, but Vax can confirm that he was VT. I wouldn't be able to know his role if I were simply just a neighborizing goon, and for what purpose does scum need the Neapolitan aspect? There'd be no point and if anything it'd be ridiculously unbalanced as I could just recruit VT checks and then PoE down the other PRs in the game

Please think sensibly
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Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:57 am

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neapolitan can 100% be a scum role
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Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:58 am

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Ok but how about a combined Neapolitan neighbor....

Lol....
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Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:58 am

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Still can be scum
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Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:59 am

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I just told you why that is highly unlikely and too swingy to possibly be a scum role
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Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:00 am

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NPOM I like that you're here, please do me a small favor and tell me what you think of current PRs. I believe there is more than one scum in them
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Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:01 am

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it's essentially a weaker rolecop imo
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Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:02 am

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Insanoflex - 2-shot Gunsmith (N2 ABR NO GUN, N3 TGP NO GUN)
DrippingGoofball - 1-shot Rolestopper (Used on IV N3)
Unwnd - Combined Neapolitan Neighborizer (Non Imh/Vax N1, Umluat N2, Innocentvillager N3)
ABR - 1-Shot bodyguard
Glitch - 2-Shot Vigilante (Claims to have shot Umlu)
Innocentvillager - Universal Backup turned 1-shot Bulletproof Tracker (Starbuck no visit n2, Glitch visited Umlu n3)
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Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:04 am

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In post 3720, Gamma Emerald wrote:it's essentially a weaker rolecop imo
If you think that I have played an increment of scum in this game you deserve to lose and the rest of the town as well because I have effectively been playing the game for them since D3.
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Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:05 am

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The claims frustrate me, because there are some aspects that go against my PoE
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Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:08 am

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Unfortunately this game seems heavy in 1/2 shot roles which are hard to confirm, any or none of them could be scum it seems.
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