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[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't think we flip red here with role analysis.

[Gamma Emerald]

best move is probably to kill them off, 1 shot roles are the hallmark of feeble scum fakeclaims

[unwnd]

I don't disagree NPOM by the way, but I am certain a good chunk of scum are in the claims

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm not sure of that, I don't see scum motivation in claiming PR when you can claim VT.

[unwnd]

Like I'm not gonna sit here and deny the facts

Glitch if he's scum is obviously with ABR. Look at the way he's danced around his ABR read. He is always sitting there with a ehhhhh impression and saying all of these platitudes in place of him. Things like 'wow ABR is really good and he's just so aggressive so I DON'T KNOW' and it feels like a partner who knows he has to talk about (his) partner but is afraid of completely giving an opinion

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't think it's obvious. This game is a shit show so far for town so let's not get self congradulatory.

[unwnd]

Ok so something doesn't sit right with me.

Guillotine says he was shot, making it 2 kills last night, and then he takes it back when TGP, umlaut and NPOM catch him in a lie because limited-shot BPs are not told they lost a BP counter.

He tells us to scumhunt but it's critical that town knows how many kills there were last night in order to make an informed analysis.

Now here's what's interesting.

If he backtracks and says he wasn't told he was shot, then that leaves the door open for only one kill last night. Guillotine, since he's gambitting, would have known this.

So his Nero push is completely nonsensical.

Nero pocketed Norwee, why would he kill him if he's scum?

Why would Nero pick up on Glitch/DGB day 2 right where Norwee left off, if Norwee was killed to prevent him from going after his secondary reads after Pretentious?

It doesn't stand to reason that Nero would kill Norwee who believed him to be town, just to finish off what Norwee was going to do anyway.

But Guillotina brushes my concerns off and tries to make me believe there were two kills.

This whole Nero push was bullshit, he backtracked and said it's not Nero, it's one of the other players on his list, and was forced to retract his BP lie as well.

Guillotina is scum.

VOTE: Guillotina

Shit

ABR intimidates me so bad

and I think it's because I literally live by his Guide to Hunting Scum on the wiki and he seems to be a

prestigious player

in my mind. This makes it

so hard for me to sort him because he just feels so town in my mind [/b

but paranoia gets the best of me

. I know Tayl0r Swift has been banned but I get the same vibes on ABR as I did from TS:

freaking ridiculously hard to sort and I'm so bad at reading them.

ABR, why do you think the Nero push was bullshit originally? Is there more to it than the 6 player list of "herp derp there's a red check in here?" Or is that it? Or is it that you're TR'ing Nero so the push is shit?

I'm massive sus of Guillo but want to understand how you're thinking here.

P115

ABR vs Vaxkiller feels pretty TvT.

ABR willing to sheep Gamma is odd. A little ping there but his hyper confidence messes with my read there. I don't think I'm at the point of suspecting him enough to vote though.

Unwnd has a lot of super thought out posts that I don't know if it's normal for him, but it gives me the kind of vibes of high effort scum put in to put on a show.

VOTE: unwnd
I'll come back tomorrow after work with a case instead of just a short blurb. Its me and my wife's anniversary today and I want to spend time with her.

I have a huge problem with ABR's hammer on muh yesterday. HUGE

ABR is so good at sorting

and

yet his hammers are bullshit

.

That slot is so freaking intimidating to me

but I wouldn't mind voting there

. But if you're leading the charge it makes me second guess that because you're ranking in too SR list to begin with.

Whats with the hammer ABR? Do you have an excuse this time that's not "I don't like delaying the inevitable?"

[unwnd]

OK, so let me tell you guys what is happening here so you understand it clear:

This is a partner afraid to compromise on his own partner. Every time he is confronted with a read on ABR, he never actually answers the question whether he is town or not. He maintains that he believes ABR is prestigious, hard to sort, yet..he says he is paranoid. Why? See, the previous statement about him being paranoid does not match with the next quote, wherein he says that he thinks ABR vs Vax is just TvT. He never absolved his paranoia of ABR and there is no substantive evidence that his opinion changed from his normal hedgey stance about him. I think Glitch

knows

that he can't fully just change his mind and is self-aware that he's been trying to insinuate ABR is this overbearing threat (but not enough to lim, mind you). I really like the last quote the most because it continues the narrative of ABR being this big scary power player, literally saying 'he's good at sorting' BUT his hammers suddenly suck. First of all: Glitch if you're reading this I'm not sure where you think ABR deserves credibility as town because by your 3135 ABR had already been on two mis-lims wagons. Second of all, you called him and Vax TvT and now you're just alright voting there?

[DrippingGoofball]

Like I'm not gonna sit here and deny the facts

Glitch if he's scum is obviously with ABR. Look at the way he's danced around his ABR read. He is always sitting there with a ehhhhh impression and saying all of these platitudes in place of him. Things like 'wow ABR is really good and he's just so aggressive so I DON'T KNOW' and it feels like a partner who knows he has to talk about (his) partner but is afraid of completely giving an opinion

I agree with this 100%

[Gamma Emerald]

do we see a reason not to lim ABR rn?
Also, does that glitch-ABR associative go both ways?

[DrippingGoofball]

he thinks ABR vs Vax is just TvT

It's worse than that, he adds a qualifier. It's PRETTY TvT.

[DrippingGoofball]

do we see a reason not to lim ABR rn?
Also, does that glitch-ABR associative go both ways?

It looks like purposely ineffectual bus'ing.

[Insanoflex]

I'm not going to vote him but I can't really defend the way he's playing.

[Gamma Emerald]

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*sigh*

[Insanoflex]

VOTE: Glitch

[DrippingGoofball]

We still haven't heard from Starbuck.

Nothing significant from NPOM or TGP - or ABR in terms of game solving.

[DrippingGoofball]

The Glitch votes are obvious and come easy.

But we have a lot to work out still, if only to have more info to make better night choices.

[DrippingGoofball]

Vaxkiller isn't lurking, but I want to see some game solving.

[Vaxkiller]

Im here. I just need to process alot of stuff. Im not playing for 3 hours tonight like the previous 2 im sorry.

Skimming thru, im having a hard time with DGB not being scum.

[unwnd]

Insano I'm kinda looking at you from two perspectives right now

One being that you're Town PR and you refuse to vote ABR because it contradicts your own results

Two that you're scum who can't vote ABR because it would contradicts your fake results

I can see why you don't vote ABR anyways, but besides Glitch would you have other suggestion?

[Vaxkiller]

Just an FYI. Maybe you already worked past this, but.

MAY claimed in the neighborhood. I freaked out when I joined and talked to umlaut about it in the neighborhood because I thought it was crazy powerful at first, but he seemed to agree that we really have no reason not to trust the claim and that unwnd/may was town.

Umlaut was not as talkative during the night as unwnd and I, but he did participate and agree with our earlier assessment of scum reads.

[unwnd]

Hey Vax I'm kinda like immensely disappointed at this town and part of me doesn't want drag this out further. I've attempted to regain the morale and sitting here and just waiting for something to happen is going to leave me in agonizing pain.

VOTE: ABR

Let's cut our losses

[Insanoflex]

Insano I'm kinda looking at you from two perspectives right now

One being that you're Town PR and you refuse to vote ABR because it contradicts your own results

Two that you're scum who can't vote ABR because it would contradicts your fake results

I can see why you don't vote ABR anyways, but besides Glitch would you have other suggestion?

DGB. Or probably any of NPOM/Gamma/Starbuck

[unwnd]

Insano I'm kinda looking at you from two perspectives right now

One being that you're Town PR and you refuse to vote ABR because it contradicts your own results

Two that you're scum who can't vote ABR because it would contradicts your fake results

I can see why you don't vote ABR anyways, but besides Glitch would you have other suggestion?

DGB. Or probably any of NPOM/Gamma/Starbuck

I really don't hate this honestly lol

[unwnd]

Gamma is voting ABR which stops me but at this point?

No fucks, they're gone