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[unwnd]

I've been trapped in this mind crevice that is Forum Mafia since 2010

Maybe

[Andresvmb]

So then you’ll forgive me for arguing that you are definitely capable as Scum of making the decision of jumping between nopoint and Dunn and taking a side.

Anyway, that’s enough of this point. I’ll let others come in and put their own thoughts forward.

[unwnd]

I personally believe you're reading too hard into it but I don't think the intentions are malicious

[Andresvmb]

@Titus, can you walk me through your vote on shellyc? I’m trying to figure out if there’s anything I’m missing.

[Andresvmb]

83 is an implied read, I'm not sure how you see it as a slip instead

There is a real fine line between making implied reads and subconsciously blurting out prior knowledge.

yeah last game I said someone was in town..... I meant to make it sound like a town read . I am not sure if that what happening here but I think it something I need to keep my eyes on

Dunnstral - why do you think that Shlly is town as you gave zero indication why you have that read


@ FL- how can you tell. Doing a little more of nothing still gets you nothing. Anways Not Mafia is giving all indication of his town game. He did this last game as town and in the other game I saw where he is town.

We should prob sort FL and Titus. Both are good players and can be dangerous if they are scum. Just my humble opinion

huh..how am I defending Dun...... I am confused as I did not attack or defend Dun but was trying clarify the motivation for their actions.

I didn’t directly address this. Fuzzy I don’t think you have to come out guns blazing to defend someone. You directly empathized with Dunnstral, no? You are indirectly saying in 143 that you’ve done as Town in a different game what nopoint is arguing is actually a Scum slip. Now, this isn’t to say that I don’t agree with your point. In fact, I do. I do the exact same thing as Town, where I plainly state that I think someone else is Town (in other words, it doesn’t necessitate a Scum perspective). I think your statement that you’ll keep an eye out for what’s to come is exactly what I intend to do.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m on a better town year than I am scum year right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

When you get far past enough knowing not to self vote, you reach an area where it starts to be okay again.

Noting that I only have 2 completed games with Andres, and both of them I was scum, one off site, so that’s an interesting thing to comment on my town game that I’m slightly FoSing.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s like not a full finger, but more like a pinky of suspicion level

[Flavor Leaf]

Giving players like Flavor no accountability allows to run amuck and do whatever the fuck he wants. I don't care if he's Don Corgi and I didn't care in the last game I played with him, his actions have to prove to me otherwise he's going to beneficial to town wincon

I had 4/5 scum caught on Day 1 in my POE of that last game, so I’m doing something right.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yes Flavor came back in and said 'welp I tried' even when I told him that no one would fall for

Whatever he was doing

You fell for it.

You were just looking at the posts from a surface level and thought that that was the thing someone would fall for.

[unwnd]

Yes Flavor came back in and said 'welp I tried' even when I told him that no one would fall for

Whatever he was doing

You fell for it.

You were just looking at the posts from a surface level and thought that that was the thing someone would fall for.

I'm short of hearing please elaborate

[Flavor Leaf]

I currently don’t know what I think about Unwnd. I was barely reading their posts in our exchange.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yes Flavor came back in and said 'welp I tried' even when I told him that no one would fall for

Whatever he was doing

You fell for it.

You were just looking at the posts from a surface level and thought that that was the thing someone would fall for.

I'm short of hearing please elaborate

I gave a nice discussion point that caused people to discuss around the things that happened, but wasn’t about me

I made it not about me by making it about me.

[Flavor Leaf]

The things I do with my time when I should be writing.

[unwnd]

Remind me when you have some form of a read and then come back to me

[Flavor Leaf]

Probably won’t remind you

[shellyc]

unwnd is scummy
FL is probtown
andres is town
fuzzy is town
nopoint might be scum
UNVOTE:

[shellyc]

VOTE: unwnd

i'll elaborate when im off work

[nopointinactingup]

unwnd and nopoint: what do you think of each other?

nopoint, despite you thinking unwnd's early posting as townie, has unwnd's passionate defense of dunn changed your mind?

No not really, still think unwnd's earlier postings were pretty town and I just wanted him to expand on his defense

I think right now I have suspension of disbelief with some of the arguments being said. You have a lot of them seeped into essentially good faith (just trust me bro vibes) but that seems pretty par for the course early on. I find Dunn null despite my defense of him, and maybe tilted my head just a little bit when he made p#105. The problem with nopoint I have is that he is arguing with the same process he is. It reads to me like a potential scum who didn't have prior thoughts so they just defaulted to turning the original argument against his attacker

VOTE: nopointcatchingup

can you explain more on this? Specifically what you mean by prior thoughts, original argument and who's my attacker?

yes its understandable

so you think nopoint isn't convinced about what he's putting forward and therefore is not from an uninformed pov
can you quote specific posts that lead you to this impression because i don't think acting in a consistent way is indicative of not being convinced?

I wasn't even that aggressive really, just reading into something that apparently no one seems to see. It's like when you get mad pings and you didn't realize what was going on until you look closely into it. I also did give dunn a chance to explain and tried to understand his perspective so it's rather unfair here to say I didn't care about his defense.

VOTE: nopointactingup

This a serious vote tm

Weeee

Nopo started the game with a levity that was uncharacteristic of last time I saw him (scum) but then dove in on dunn in a way that I didn't love.

Yo I'm town this time. If you are too then the K-pop bois gotta stick togetha

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

You know what's actually scummier than my self vote.

UNVOTE: Flavor Leaf

A Self Unvote.

Keeping a fos on dunn but would like to see where this goes.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I didn’t see anybody ask you, so I’ll do it: what differences do you see between Johnny’s game when you played with them as Scum and this game?

Johny was much more lurky, snarky and identified more people as scum-reads in the other game. He replaced in though so I'm not sure if that played a role but for now I have a good town-lean.

I mean, I appreciated it

Right now I think both nopoint and Flavor are suspicious, I was waiting to see what else nopoint had to say but they seem to have vacated the thread which looks kind of scummy here

I'm posting this at 3 pm cuz I didn't want to get forced replaced. I should have VLA-ed

[nopointinactingup]

3 a.m* really fucking tired

[unwnd]

Keeping a fos on dunn but would like to see where this goes.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

You missed the train already lol

[nopointinactingup]

could ride another one, would like to see people's thoughts about that self-vote-unvote actually

[unwnd]

I think it's a non-point and I'd prefer if you engaged me on the response I gave shelly earlier instead, which I imagine you must've glanced if you saw FL self-vote cause that was after

[nopointinactingup]

can you like quote it?

[unwnd]

When it comes to nopoint, I'm not sure where you got that I was instigating an attack because Nopoint was the one who came at dunn in the first place

I'm not dunn's knight in shining armor though, I just felt the approach was baseless and I find if someone is heated about something it usually comes from one or two schools of thought

1) They are doing it intentionally in order to base a read on a player by means of reaction
2) They are replicating behavior they think is synonymous with town by seeming ilke they care a lot about this (thing)

In the instance of Nopoint, I leaned on the second and honestly I feel even stronger on that second point because he is simply not here and didn't seem to care enough in the first place lol

I'll give you the more recent one that is a better summarization anyways