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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:21 pm

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In post 2146, Akarin wrote:You are overlooking something but I'm going to be coy with my reason right now. I'll explain if it looks like we're close to eliminating BM though.
What the hell would you need to be coy about?
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 2150, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2146, Akarin wrote:You are overlooking something but I'm going to be coy with my reason right now. I'll explain if it looks like we're close to eliminating BM though.
What the hell would you need to be coy about?
If I told you that it wouldn't be very coy now would it?
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:24 pm

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I don't see the point of withholding it especially since a deadline elim is likely at this point, and people may not be interested in listening at that point.
I can definitely see that point on Gamma - like I said, wait and see.
Why is the Titus wagon bad?
I'm assuming it's because there are a bunch of scummy people on it but I'd like to hear your reasoning.
PEDIT - no I think Gamma is correct calling you out on that tbh.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 pm

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VoteCount 1.58


titus [4]
haschel cedricson pookythemagicalbear battle mage gamma emerald
MURDERCAT [4]
outworldER xRECKONERx thegoldenparadox akarin
Battle Mage [3]
blitzo DrippingGoofball titus
thegoldenparadox [3]
taly murdercat alisae
sircakez [1]
bell
no elim [1]
sircakez

Not Voting [1]
flea the magician


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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:39 pm

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Watch how I'm gonna just ignore that...

So there
are
scummy people on Titus, but it's not just that, it's that the "case" on her is pure gut, unexplained, or explained based on a post that is a really bad reason to eliminate Titus. Gamma's earlier point about how many people want to NK Titus un N1 if they're scum, the way the Titus wagon came up both times, the way the MURDERCAT wagon dissipated, and the way Titus handled that small aborted argument with me earlier in the Day.

I think Titus is town. I think the vague differences are explainable by the gamestate and Titus' feeling that No Elimination is optimal. I think her wagon is a ridiculous nothing that people are somehow suddenly enthusiastic about for the 2nd time today with everyone sort of vaguely consenting to it (including people not currently voting for her.)
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:41 pm

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In post 2154, Akarin wrote:the way the MURDERCAT wagon dissipated
Talk about this?
Tbh if I’m not freaking out about a wagon stall I think through a circuitous reverse psychology argument it makes it scummier
Blitzo might understand what I mean but I don’t have full confidence he will
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:42 pm

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VOTE: Haschel

Let's mix it up.
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:45 pm

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In post 2155, Gamma Emerald wrote:Talk about this?
Tbh if I’m not freaking out about a wagon stall I think through a circuitous reverse psychology argument it makes it scummier
Blitzo might understand what I mean but I don’t have full confidence he will
Well
I
don't understand what you're talking about, but anyway...

A ton of people soft defended MURDERKITTY. (Including some of my big townreads, so it's definitely not
all
scum, but it jus feels like there was a lot of it.) No matter how things got explained, no one ever really engaged on any argument for or against Murdercat, but a
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of people commented that there was no case despite people trying to clear that up.
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:47 pm

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Okay that’s not what I asked about
I asked about how the wagon dissolved and why you think that makes MCat scum
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:48 pm

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Like, you hit something that kinda resonates with me. WORK WITH ME.
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:49 pm

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I'm not sure what else to say without looking back at things and I'm focussing on something else right now and then going to bed.

If it's something I can clarify from memory I will, but ask more clearly please?
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:50 pm

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Who do you feel was involved in the MCat wagon dissolving? That’s probably the thing most interesting to me about that point.
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:53 pm

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Haschel is definitely questionable too tbh.
Though I don't seem to recall the MC wagon dissipating?
Someone point me out to where that happened please.
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:58 pm

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Okay actually looking at the mod ISO the MCat wagon never dropped by more than 1 vote per VC
So now I’m quite curious where this allegation of it “dissolving” really even comes from?
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:58 pm

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Like I had an image of a big castle falling but it’s more like sand running through an hourglass.
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 pm

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I guess I'd say Cakez, Taly, Pooky, and BM. And I'm townreading Taly and Pooky.

I guess maybe I contributed too, at least stealing away momentum, but the wagon was feeling like it was going too quickly when I checked in last night and I wanted to make sure it didn't hammer before I got time to come back to the game.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:00 pm

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In post 2163, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay actually looking at the mod ISO the MCat wagon never dropped by more than 1 vote per VC
So now I’m quite curious where this allegation of it “dissolving” really even comes from?
I thought it went from 6 to 3? And really it's feels. It felt inevitable last night and unlikely tonight.
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:01 pm

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TSQ being great at vote counts shouldn't impact this.
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:01 pm

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Okay. Do you think Cakez+BM are scum? I could see it myself. Cakez seems dedicated to gaslighting me by painting my BM push as a personal gripe.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:02 pm

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So here's the thing about Haschel: even if he's town, he's basically committed to being a bonus kill for scum at some point this game anyway.

I think he's more than random chance to be scum, but he's basically a free miselim!

(The same is true of Reck, but I think Reck's town, so let's let scum take care of him.)
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:03 pm

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In post 2166, Akarin wrote:
In post 2163, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay actually looking at the mod ISO the MCat wagon never dropped by more than 1 vote per VC
So now I’m quite curious where this allegation of it “dissolving” really even comes from?
I thought it went from 6 to 3? And really it's feels. It felt inevitable last night and unlikely tonight.
I don’t disagree about this vibe
Do you wanna stick with trying to get haschel or would you prefer MCat?
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:04 pm

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I don't think anyone has actually come really close to getting limmed so far.
Obviously we have to rectify that soon but I think that needs to be said considering the current conversation.
PEDIT - I'll admit that thread sentiment has played a huge part in pretty much every elim target thus far.
Though, again, we have to rectify that by tomorrow.
Though if Akarin could point out where the wagon went from 6 to 3 I'd be able to look into that but I just can't recall that being the case.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:05 pm

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In post 2168, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay. Do you think Cakez+BM are scum? I could see it myself. Cakez seems dedicated to gaslighting me by painting my BM push as a personal gripe.
This feels pointless to put much thought into right now, but yes, I have Cakez+BM as a possible S-S. But I don't think it's definitely S-S, just I don't think their interaction ruled that out.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:07 pm

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Tbh I could point out how it went from 6 to 3 just through VCs, but a big thing to realize is it wasn’t a straight descent, it wobbles around 6/5 a bit, and sticks at 4 for a little while
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:07 pm

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Vote Haschel: if he's town it's no worse than a No Elim, and maybe he's scum.

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