Mini Normal 2180 | Fake Peoples | Endgame

[petapan]

im still very disappointed in town for being completely confbiased on ABR but whatever let’s leave thst for postgame, nothing we can do about it now

dude i have no idea how the fuck you thought he looked town for most of that day unless you already knew he was town

[innocentvillager]

i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma

this is your response to my question on why you think it’s ico/dv/gamma if dv is scum? It’s not me because I drove the DV wagon so it’s ico, the only remaining PR, and it’s not midway because dv/midway aren’t aligned, and definitely not Dunnstral for the same reason?

I agree with that logic up to mwb, and think we need to re-examine that slot

peta i think you’re town and if you vote town today we are completely screwed, not to stress you out more but we cannot vote a townie today or like ever

[Iconeum]

i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma

if you think i faked that 1-shot nb crumb and crumbed knowing about 3 other pr's, i'll take you on right here and now bruh

[Iconeum]

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

[innocentvillager]

sorry, i should make it clear that i also disagree there is a PR claim that is lying

specifically, i know im not lying (also, i think a point in favor of me being town is that my role synergizes well with Albert's role which I could not have known basically, and my role as a scum role is just stupid), and ico's role is like, kind of whatever so dont' think it changes the setup that much (remember this is Gypyx normal, he loves these kinds of wild setups)

[innocentvillager]

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

do you agree that if DV is scum, Dunnstral and I are almost certainly town?

[Iconeum]

sorry, i should make it clear that i also disagree there is a PR claim that is lying

specifically, i know im not lying (also, i think a point in favor of me being town is that my role synergizes well with Albert's role which I could not have known basically, and my role as a scum role is just stupid), and ico's role is like, kind of whatever so dont' think it changes the setup that much (remember this is Gypyx normal, he loves these kinds of wild setups)

like i said at the beginning of the day, there's + and - for your role here

it's entirely possible it's true, and it does synergize nicely
but there is also a confirmed scum blocker type role out there, and it's unaccounted for.

[Iconeum]

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

do you agree that if DV is scum, Dunnstral and I are almost certainly town?

i don't know why i'd agree to that

[innocentvillager]

ico also you know that like, D2 onwards is very much not my scumgame lol, even D1 to a lesser extent

the current iteration of my scumgame is to hide in PT and not actually engage thread as much as possible

i tried expanding my scumrange in 2160 and i hated it so i gave up on that basically

[Iconeum]

DV/dunn/gamma

gunshot 'would flip today' reads at this point

I got a townping from one of gamma's posts at the eod3, but that was fully expecting ABR flipping scum

[innocentvillager]

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

do you agree that if DV is scum, Dunnstral and I are almost certainly town?

i don't know why i'd agree to that

you think I hard drive up my partner when there is a real possibility of putting them at risk, potentially get called out for TMI on albert, and don't take the free ML?

you think noraa-dunnstral/dv is scum theatreing this whole time, since D1? (guess you have ptsd about theatre, lol!)

[Iconeum]

ico also you know that like, D2 onwards is very much not my scumgame lol, even D1 to a lesser extent

the current iteration of my scumgame is to hide in PT and not actually engage thread as much as possible

i tried expanding my scumrange in 2160 and i hated it so i gave up on that basically

the way i'm trying to approach this game rn is basicly 'who the fuck is my townblock'

every.single.townie has to allign today, or scum has to give us a hand here

me/peta
fair point about your scumrange

and like, i don't see me including DV into a town in 99% of the solves so...

[Iconeum]

Ico thoughts on my current solve?

it's really hard putting a team together with no scum flips so far, but it's hard to see outside of scum!DV here

do you agree that if DV is scum, Dunnstral and I are almost certainly town?

i don't know why i'd agree to that

you think I hard drive up my partner when there is a real possibility of putting them at risk, potentially get called out for TMI on albert, and don't take the free ML?

you think noraa-dunnstral/dv is scum theatreing this whole time, since D1? (guess you have ptsd about theatre, lol!)

i mean

i've literally just been blown out of the fucking water by scum theatre, seeing someone absolutely DESTROY their own scumrange

don't talk to me about 'this isn't possibly scumtheater'

[Iconeum]

but actually

ico/IV/peta/dunn as town?

it's possible
it's closer to establishing a townblock then i've ever been this game probably...

[innocentvillager]

daddisi is an exceptional rising star though

not to say noraa, DV and Dunnstral aren't exceptional players, but doubt they are going to smash their scumrange here and now

[petapan]

i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma

this is your response to my question on why you think it’s ico/dv/gamma if dv is scum? It’s not me because I drove the DV wagon so it’s ico, the only remaining PR, and it’s not midway because dv/midway aren’t aligned, and definitely not Dunnstral for the same reason?

I agree with that logic up to mwb, and think we need to re-examine that slot

peta i think you’re town and if you vote town today we are completely screwed, not to stress you out more but we cannot vote a townie today or like ever

because i don't think that kind of last minute flashwagon on dv happens if a teammate is bussing him, otherwise they would just sit on abr

and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him

[petapan]

i don't really want to commit to any sort of full team guess until i reread the game though

[innocentvillager]

and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him

feel like low confidence scum player is not the same as unwilling to bus when it aligns with his reads? he has been saying DV is scummy all game, it's the perfect reason to bus as scum

it gives a me a little pause too i guess? but not enough to think he's not scum for it

and tbh, it makes more sense than ico/dv/gamma scumteam just hard buddying each other for the win

i re-ISO'd iconeum over the night and im not completely convinced? but it does looks townier than i thought

mwb was pretty convincing in the first part of illicit substances, this is a less intense plist so and he's gotten practice from illicit, so i don't think it's crazy that he's still able to engage the thread reasonably well this game as scum

[innocentvillager]

i kind of feel good about going dv -> gamma -> agonize over mwb vs. ico but probably take out midway

[innocentvillager]

i bet the dead thread is fun

wonder if they've been spoilered

[petapan]

and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him

feel like low confidence scum player is not the same as unwilling to bus when it aligns with his reads? he has been saying DV is scummy all game, it's the perfect reason to bus as scum

it gives a me a little pause too i guess? but not enough to think he's not scum for it

and tbh, it makes more sense than ico/dv/gamma scumteam just hard buddying each other for the win

i re-ISO'd iconeum over the night and im not completely convinced? but it does looks townier than i thought

mwb was pretty convincing in the first part of illicit substances, this is a less intense plist so and he's gotten practice from illicit, so i don't think it's crazy that he's still able to engage the thread reasonably well this game as scum

idk i guess i'd want to look at their trajectories on each other over the whole game but my impression is there was no need to bus at all there

[petapan]

i bet the dead thread is fun

wonder if they've been spoilered

probably yelling at me about how obvious it is right now

[innocentvillager]

idk i guess i'd want to look at their trajectories on each other over the whole game but my impression is there was no need to bus at all there

it looks good at least? if dv is scum it looks good, if ABR flips it also looks good? with dv/gamma heavily suspected it makes some sense to try and establish MWB as the deeper wolf

[petapan]

lmfao at the idea of deep wolf midwaybear

[innocentvillager]

peta if you're scum congrats, you've won already

unless there's some crazy counter to my role (probably is, tbh, like an ascetic or something) im probably gonna be alive for a while? we'll see