Nope 17 pages in the burden of proof is on a player to provide town content, not to avoid scummy content. Again what thing even remotely towny do you see in slime's play?
You're understanding, burden of proof vice versa dear. It's on the rest of the town players to explain why someone is scummy not on people to prove they are town. You're literally saying the fallacy name and doing the fallacy in same post
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,
Tris was making cases about horsewoman and put them as their solo scumread and were questioning others to talk about horsewoman. But this vote came later than all those
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
This interaction is interesting. I just can't see two towns having this conversation. Slime has been scum reading gamma for as their only read and back off the moment their replacement defends them and tris distance themselves from this switch when in the same page they were defending the slot with no base.
Getting extreme Scum vibes from this interaction
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
In post 440, The Slime Collective wrote:Horsewoman. I like push on gamma, since I pushed gamma for the same reason. I don't like the fact that she stopped posting posts with content. I will go with null.
~Batslime
I dont understand this post. Is this some sort of poor pretending that they dont know gamma is replaced right after they unvoting that slot for tris content?
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
In post 455, Horsewoman wrote:I do like tris's entry into the game. It can be hard for scum to replace in and look like they're genuinely trying to catch up. Tris's entry looks pretty good to me. And she hasn't gone with the easy wagon on Slime and instead she's trying to ask questions and achieve something different, which I like from her (obviously this read is kind of dependent on slime flipping town which might not happen)
Technically it's actually easier for scum to smoothly get into the game as people have reads developed and they can echo them
Maybe that is different player by player (for some its easier as scum for some its easier as town to catch up)
What about tris catchup makes you feel it's genuine and why you're not responding to their case like how you questioned me and ythans read on you? - especially since tris read on you is exactly with same basis
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
In post 445, Ythan wrote:Slime I'm having positive feelings about your last couple posts.
I agree but this is how I see it: if they were capable of posting this type of stuff earlier, why did they hold off until they were pressured?? It feels so manufactured
I don't think it's even a scum tell to try and change your play when getting pressured. A lot of town, especially newer ones, get incredibly spooked when the votes run up on them.
Agreed, but slime does not read like lazy town who got a fire lit under their butt to me. They read like they were never interested in scum hunting from the beginning, and are now trying to manufacture stuff just to get the wagon off. I mean look at their activity now that the votes to elim them are no longer here. I know apathetic town when i see it
Town players actually do this too. I mean, scumhunting properly is kind of hard lol and getting mislynched feels real bad.
I absolutely get you on it though. I think pressuring slime is a good thing right now because getting him worried enough to actually contribute is always going to be positive in actually being able to sort his actual content.
VOTE: Slime Collective in order to get him back to l-1
are you literally saying he can be town and then voting him on the same post claiming it's for pressuring him? What kind of fake pressure is this?
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
Tris was making cases about horsewoman and put them as their solo scumread and were questioning others to talk about horsewoman. But this vote came later than all those
that's because i wanted to read horsewoman's iso before i placed a vote on her. what do you mean by too late? do you think it's scummy that i did that?
This interaction is interesting. I just can't see two towns having this conversation. Slime has been scum reading gamma for as their only read and back off the moment their replacement defends them and tris distance themselves from this switch when in the same page they were defending the slot with no base.
Getting extreme Scum vibes from this interaction
i knew someone would find that interaction scummy.
In post 403, superbowl9 wrote:I think we are getting distracted a bunch. Tris, anime Y person, what do you see even remotely towny about slime??
distracted from what? from lynching slime? that was the hot topic there - why you felt people were getting distracted from it?
Yes. At that time gamma’s vote replaced out and iirc bugspray moved off? So we essentially lost the wagon on that slot without them really doing anything productive. The whole momentum of the game was shifting away from a slime wagon, which wasn’t good.
Nope 17 pages in the burden of proof is on a player to provide town content, not to avoid scummy content. Again what thing even remotely towny do you see in slime's play?
You're understanding, burden of proof vice versa dear. It's on the rest of the town players to explain why someone is scummy not on people to prove they are town. You're literally saying the fallacy name and doing the fallacy in same post
Nah you’re wrong, if I don’t provide any content helpful to town and the game has been running for days, am I towny then in your eyes? The burden is on every player to provide towny content - that’s my first BOP point here. It follows that to have a non-scumread on a player, they must have made positive contributions to the game.
Nope 17 pages in the burden of proof is on a player to provide town content, not to avoid scummy content. Again what thing even remotely towny do you see in slime's play?
You're understanding, burden of proof vice versa dear. It's on the rest of the town players to explain why someone is scummy not on people to prove they are town. You're literally saying the fallacy name and doing the fallacy in same post
Nah you’re wrong, if I don’t provide any content helpful to town and the game has been running for days, am I towny then in your eyes? The burden is on every player to provide towny content - that’s my first BOP point here. It follows that to have a non-scumread on a player, they must have made positive contributions to the game.
I didn't say you're wrong - It's correct that people should create confidence for rest that they are town by solving game BUT
The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim and is not upon anyone else to disprove. When you say they are scum (even if you just do it with a vote) you must provide evidence for your case - it's not on them to disprove it and it's on you to prove it.
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
In post 508, tris wrote:that's because i wanted to read horsewoman's iso before i placed a vote on her. what do you mean by too late? do you think it's scummy that i did that?
I just find it interesting that you did it 1.5 pages later after you were asking slime about it.
It just felt you suddenly remembered you should vote for the person you're making a case about.
I don't find the actual action scummy. It's just a behavior that stood out for me. I think that might be in correlation with your defending slime slot though and this relationship feels alarming - a tiny bit - I guess
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
In post 403, superbowl9 wrote:I think we are getting distracted a bunch. Tris, anime Y person, what do you see even remotely towny about slime??
distracted from what? from lynching slime? that was the hot topic there - why you felt people were getting distracted from it?
Yes. At that time gamma’s vote replaced out and iirc bugspray moved off? So we essentially lost the wagon on that slot without them really doing anything productive. The whole momentum of the game was shifting away from a slime wagon, which wasn’t good.
ok, this makes sense. I just think the momentum of pressure on the gamma slot was lost not the wagon on slime.
"Cooperation is absolutely key at this point. Who you decide to trust or not trust is, of course, up, to you."
this got me interested, i took a look at their profile, and both of their completed games are normals. hydras aren't allowed in normals.
i don't think the gimmick itself is ai, since they did it when they were town. but i'm now getting annoyed, because at one point they said they'll get one of their other heads to do a case or something, which then ended up never happening iirc.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
well this was written on the /in to mod for this game so.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
i'm a bit worried because assuming slime!scum where's the counterwagon?
it has to be the horsewoman pushes, right? i mean i suppose it's there but i'd sort of expect more
maybe scum just sort of mutually gave up on that
MY PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM
do not assume my posts follow coherency they do not imagine that every time i post i put half of my knowledge into a clone and then the clone murders me
is it scum? probably not, it's a mildly town thing to do to get the game out of RVS and create content, even if that content is very dumb
In post 28, Horsewoman wrote:i apologise if that looked like a personal attack. i don't even think your posts came from a place of being dumb, i think you were just grasping for something to move out of RVS with. which as i said is a good and mildly town thing to do.
If horsewoman doesn't think kyoko's posting is even dumb to begin with, then she has no reason to say 'yeah kyoko's posting is very dumb'. the wording doesn't help a different interpretation other than she is making up things on the fly to sound solvey.
I can't grasp anything out of kyoko's arguments on page 2 that's AI either way and datisi's #45 resonate with me in that aspect.
(bbiab)
the posts being dumb is not the same as the post coming from a place of the person who made them being dumb, so i don't think there's a contradiction here. this plus not seeing how horsewoman is scummy on page 1, doesn't give me confidence that this is a real scumread.
