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[Vaxkiller]

Elements what does your reads list look like now?

Skitter town
Vax town

That's about it. After the red flip I decided my reads were utter garbage which, tbf, could probably have been predicted anyway.

there's at most 1 scum on that cw

so vax, bdg, bork town

Why am I town now Elements? What made you change your mind?

[DrippingGoofball]

This is dumb and I'm not hammering it.

If Elements is town, where is the last minute townie hustle?

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

Just to avoid a surprise hammer, we still have some discussion left re:Elements

[DrippingGoofball]

Still disagree with this, etc

1. Why?
2. Aside from me, who would you rather yeet?

[DrippingGoofball]

This is dumb and I'm not hammering it.

What is it that makes you feel so strongly about it?

[DrippingGoofball]

My vote order is now something like Bork->Vax->DGB/Skitter though reviewing Vax/Syr would take time

What makes you suddenly view Skitter and myself as scum?

[Prism]

If Elements is town, where is the last minute townie hustle?

No.

What is it that makes you feel so strongly about it?

384, 3518, 3553

What makes you suddenly view Skitter and myself as scum?

3518

[Vaxkiller]

@prism

Those aren't exactly compelling arguments. 384 Elements presence has been struggling. 3518 is how you feel. 3553 does not seem AI to me.

[fferyllt]

UNVOTE:

Just to avoid a surprise hammer, we still have some discussion left re:Elements

Who do you think would do this?

[Prism]

@prism

Those aren't exactly compelling arguments. 384 Elements presence has been struggling. 3518 is how you feel. 3553 does not seem AI to me.

That's great. I'm not voting it.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

Just to avoid a surprise hammer, we still have some discussion left re:Elements

Elements(5): notscience, Cabd, Elements, Vaxkiller, DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball(2): benhalkum, PookyTheMagicalBear
PookyTheMagicalBear(1): borkjerfkin
borkjerfkin(1): Prism

Not Voting(2): fferylit, skitter30

Who do you think would do this?

That's a very good question. It would depend on the flip?

If Elements is scum

, I would expect scum not to bus, or only do so very reluctantly, because they are already down one member. I would expect scum to be very low-key about defending Elements, mostly hanging off wagon or not voting:

benhalkum, Pooky, borkjerfkin, fferylit, skitter30

If Elements is town

, I would expect scum that was on the uwnd/Syry wagon to be more likely to feel that they have earned the towncred to yeet Elements and not be punished:

Cabd, notscience

If Elements is town

, I would conversely expect scum that was NOT on the uwnd/Syry wagon to be more likely to feel that they have NOT earned the towncred to yeet Elements and not be punished:

bork, DGB, benhalkum

Prism is a special case because she is white-knighting hard based on flimsy reasoning (I even hesitate to use the word reasoning). If Elements were to flip town, Prism would need to be speed-yeeted. If Elements red-flips... then it makes it it more likely, not less, that Prism is town.

[Vaxkiller]

UNVOTE:

Just to avoid a surprise hammer, we still have some discussion left re:Elements

Who do you think would do this?

Besides, the VC is wrong, it shows elements voting themselves.

[skitter30]

Werent you just arguing i was wk-ing elements @dgb

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

Just to avoid a surprise hammer, we still have some discussion left re:Elements

Who do you think would do this?

Besides, the VC is wrong, it shows elements voting themselves.

I copied and pasted.

[DrippingGoofball]

Werent you just arguing i was wk-ing elements @dgb

I never said that.

[skitter30]

Still disagree with this, etc

1. Why?
2. Aside from me, who would you rather yeet?

1. Elements is town, i've towncased them twice already in recent pages

2. Other than you, idk

[skitter30]

I still don't see the relevance of 910, which does not seem to involve Bork at all? Am I missing something?

no, but apparently I'm blind

Skitter is town because scum never defend me as I'm such an easy mis-elim it's objectively bad for them to do so.

What are the odds that Skitter is scum whiteknighting you?

Have you noticed that Skitter literally has no scum read except me?

I misread this, sorry. I thought u were saying *i am* scum wk'ing them

[DrippingGoofball]

People voting me/thinking of voting me.
Are you voting me because my play is scummy or because my play is bad.
I put much more effort in to look like I'm trying to solve the game as scum which is clearly not something I've done here.
The people that'll be best at reading me here are Skitter and Prism. Prism has already pointed out the difference between my play here and and when I was scum in Chara's folly.
So yea. I'm town.
VOTE: pooky

This does pull at my heartstrings.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Pooky

[DrippingGoofball]

But then there's this

I'm rethinking this elements fade. I don't like how part of the reasoning behind it is being pushed forth.... Vax/Elements cant be scum together. I know im town in this equation, and what if elements is too? It's just an easy push for scum.

Edit, well now that I typed that out, if it's so easy why isn't it happening? But there can only be at the most 2 more scum? That's not a lot of pushing power, but maybe they are staying away? ARRRRGH

Maybe the scum was already on it? At least the active player scum?

[skitter30]

I really really hate that we're sliding to the inevitable elements lim

[Vaxkiller]

Then name someone else besides dgb

[skitter30]

The tentative townread i had on ffery is slowly vanishing into the ether

[Vaxkiller]

pfffft there it goes!

[fferyllt]

I really really hate that we're sliding to the inevitable elements lim

we agree on something, maybe. there's an awful lot of murk in how the slide's gone.