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[innocentvillager]

Vote count 2.01

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-12-26 12:19:38).

elimination

2. Andresvmb [0]:

3. unwnd [1]:

Flavor Leaf#715

4. Flavor Leaf [1]:

Dunnstral#705

5. Hank Spankems [0]:

6. shellyc [2]:

Andresvmb#683, JohnnyFarrar#701

7. PlusJOYED [0]:

8. Not_Mafia [0]:

9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:

10. geraintm [0]:

11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:

12. Dunnstral [0]:

13. nopointinactingup [2]:

PlusJOYED#681, Not_Mafia#685

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [6]:

nopointinactingup, TheFuzzyLogic99, Hank Spankems, geraintm, unwnd, shellyc

mod notes

Spoiler: vote log

Day 2 vote log

Post 681: PlusJOYED votes nopointinactingup
Post 683: Andresvmb votes shellyc
Post 685: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup
Post 701: JohnnyFarrar votes shellyc
Post 705: Dunnstral votes Flavor Leaf
Post 715: Flavor Leaf votes unwnd

[PlusJOYED]

rn im like (town to scum)
dunn > notmafia > andres > shelly > hank > fuzzy > fl > uwnd > gera > johny > nopoint

flavor leaf: maybe scum. reminds me of april, they might be the same person, but I feel like they have kinda gone in circles but are still pushing the game ahead which is kinda how they described how they play mafia. Haven't seen any crazy gambits from them either. A lot of weak defenses too. regardless, their activity compared to other inactives makes me hesitant to go here today since we need all the drive we can get to avoid burning out. so decent chance of scum but leave them for now unless we need an elim.

andres: town. Feels like the obvtown andr3s I know

dunn: town. was null but town by claim

notmafia: town via dunn. I wasn't a fan of their day 1 play.

shelly: town likely from reasons I described

gera: scumlean. never actually voted day 1 except rvs despite talking about where to vote.

fuzzy: tonally town. I have some paranoia that they are a deepwolf though.

johny: scumlean. mainly gut but I feel like they are part of the squad that tried to go nowhere this game

nopoint: scum

hank: town. I think suspecting titus makes sense and nothing has really scumpinged me

unwd: null, not sure yet. made some associations day 1 I wanna wait on this slot

[PlusJOYED]

I wanna go nopoint I'd settle for johny or gera

[unwnd]

Alright.

It seems this game is in a precarious state. Once again, I am disappointed about the lack of a lim there. This game doesn't feel apathetic more than it feels aimless. The question I have to ask myself is if this apathy is intentional. I've parsed Flavor's vote on me and I'm not really worried about it, but what I do worry about is...

Me, Flavor, and Shelly are the top posters. Why is it that I come back here and see the accusations fly in our direction? That'd be a pretty embarrassing scumpile in hindsight if town were simply not doing anything.

[unwnd]

A lot of my previous reads sorta became fleeting. I disliked Nopoint but it's been actual days and I can't remember the reason why. I can't read someone's mind but I imagine Shelly feels close to the same in terms of me. The M/O of most scum team is either 1) Control the gamestate 2) Operate in the gamestate. If scum were

controlling

the gamestate, then logic persists that Me/Flavor/Shelly would be in contention purely by the amount of seeming effort. I think Flavor is wrong about me and I think he's done some absolutely nonsensical posts, but that's a lot of extra for nothing gained. This gives me pause even if I initially was a bit annoyed people were townreading him. I think those people who are seemingly just being like, 'well, that's flavor being flavor' have more possibility to be scum who are only operating in the gamestate provided for them. This is not an absolute rather just an observation.

I mean this literally, but me and FL have provided provided more than 20% of the posts made, and then most of them are interacting with each other.

[unwnd]

I don't believe scum are controlling the gamestate by the way, I tend to lean with they're just operating with it. Scum aren't gonna decide lynches for us, which in turn makes sense why there wasn't one in the first place. I had my hands tied behind my back in some aspect and I wanted to practice restraint. I don't enjoy seeing myself at the top poster count and I won't lie and say it tilted me and even made me a bit bitter.

As for what's going on? I think scum are just lowballing and intentionally playing this way. And what do you know? It's working. The fact Me/Shelly/Flavor are the most talked about topics should say that alone.

[unwnd]

I'm at a bit of a loss. I was/am sus of people who tried to flashwagon at the last minute. I'm sorry I was absent (I feel better now) but seriously why would you try a new wagon that has a low chance of taking off when presense is low?

To me that screams trying to get a nolim d1 which is rough for us.

I think I was pretty much the only person who attempted to flashwagon on hank and it went nowhere. Could you elaborate what you meant in regards to bolded?

[unwnd]

Dunn
Not Mafia

Geraint
Andres

Shelly
Hank
Johnny

Plusjoyed
Fuzzy
Nopoint
Unwnd

Probably where I'm at.

I'd say at least 2 scum in bottom group, possible scum in that shelly, hank, johnny. But all 3 could be in that bottom.

We're just not going to get along lol, I think PlusJOYED's inquiry after the nolim was pretty pure and I think Fuzzy looks more lost than anything. I'm worried about Johnny/Hank/Gera the most as I feel they're the most low impact despite having their presence seemingly pop up at convenient times.

[PlusJOYED]

I'm at a bit of a loss. I was/am sus of people who tried to flashwagon at the last minute. I'm sorry I was absent (I feel better now) but seriously why would you try a new wagon that has a low chance of taking off when presense is low?

To me that screams trying to get a nolim d1 which is rough for us.

I think I was pretty much the only person who attempted to flashwagon on hank and it went nowhere. Could you elaborate what you meant in regards to bolded?

titus and a few others on shelly but you as well on hank

[PlusJOYED]

I'm worried about Johnny/Hank/Gera the most as I feel they're the most low impact despite having their presence seemingly pop up at convenient times.

yeah, johny especially.

[unwnd]

Right now I townread Dunn/Andres/Fuzzy and maybe Flavor because I sorta am biased about how the game is turning out, which makes me wanna spittake for saying that but

Whatever lol

[unwnd]

There's a possibility of me being wrong on Fuzzy/Andres but the conversations I had with Andres ring pretty true and I don't think he is taking an authoritative stance or trying to set up lims, I buy the solving he's tried to provide and enjoyed reading it. I don't really see much of an agenda with Fuzzy's posting or someone telling him what to post/not post.

[PlusJOYED]

Right now I townread Dunn/Andres/Fuzzy and maybe Flavor because I sorta am biased about how the game is turning out, which makes me wanna spittake for saying that but

Whatever lol

I feel that

[PlusJOYED]

I actually think FL has a pretty decent chance to be scum but I don't wanna lose the presence

[unwnd]

That's funny because I felt that way on D1 and now I feel vastly different lol

[JohnnyFarrar]

Spooky Johnny here worrying everybody.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Flavor is wrong about me

[Flavor Leaf]

flavor leaf: maybe scum. reminds me of april, they might be the same person, but I feel like they have kinda gone in circles but are still pushing the game ahead which is kinda how they described how they play mafia. Haven't seen any crazy gambits from them either. A lot of weak defenses too. regardless, their activity compared to other inactives makes me hesitant to go here today since we need all the drive we can get to avoid burning out. so decent chance of scum but leave them for now unless we need an elim.

I am April Ludgate, yes. I have played with you before, and caught scum you after calling you town Day 1 there.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Thinking...

I doubt that Titus was killed (mainly) bc she was on scum. She might of been. My thinking is this because of the lack of a kill yesterday. Titus is a dangerous town player. It seems that she was killed because of her skills. I am prob wrong but I dont think scum feel very threatened atm. This is bc the disunity of the town

[shellyc]

VOTE: Johnny

if you think scum!me killed titus you'd be crazy

[shellyc]

fwiw i now sorta want to reverse my unwnd read

I feel like unwnd wants to strongarm the gamestate here

[shellyc]

which does not fit in with scum's modus operandi today

plus is town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Plus or unwd?

[Flavor Leaf]

plus and unwnd

[nopointinactingup]

Johnny is town because I know how he plays as scum, plus he’s actually been communicating with me, unlike the many people in this thread who completely ignores my line of questioning