Mini #643: Time Capsule Mafia, Game Over
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Woah, slow down here guys.
Why, exactally, are people going after MLF all of a sudden? Darox, what the heck? You "like the case from yesterday"? What case is that, the "he hammered so he must be scum" case that like a million holes were shot in yesterday?I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Darox wrote:Still waiting on clammy to answer the rest of my questions, and bring up an old question that was never answered.
@MLF:
Also,TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Based on the end of day 1, do you think ythill was scum?
Can you also explain the apparent contradiction between your hammer post and your explaination day 2 that I detailed here?
Stating that your vote was simply to push a claim but seemingly attacking the credibility of any claim Ythill makes.
Actually, reading through it a second time, it seems like you know he was just lynched and you are already looking to day 2.melikefood wrote:Not sure how we'll go from that in no-reveal though.
This plus KoC's comment on MLF's play at the end of D2.Darox wrote:I'm not saying that.
I'm saying it seems like you are attacking the credibility of any claim Ythill makes when you say this.
This seems not only like you have already condemned Ythill to the grave, but also that you are not going to take any claim made seriously.melikefood wrote:Not sure how we'll go from that in no-reveal though.
This alone isn't enough to make me suspicious. But on day two, you repeatedly insist that your hammer was accidental and that you were pushing for a claim. This seems to contradict what you have said in your hammer post. Hence suspicion.
I think the people on roffman have given adequate reasons for their actions, but the same isn't true of all the people on clammy. I would like IcemanE to explain himself. I would say the same of Battousai but for his replacement.-
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Exactly. Darox's jump on the wagon seems fishy to me. I don't remember him pushing mlf yesterday.rotten snitch wrote: do not like though how quickly this came about. The argument about MLF is stemming mostly from his day 2 actions and if we were so convinced he was scum yesterday then why did the pile up on Roff happen?
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This was pretty much all I was doing D2.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
Exactly. Darox's jump on the wagon seems fishy to me. I don't remember him pushing mlf yesterday.rotten snitch wrote: do not like though how quickly this came about. The argument about MLF is stemming mostly from his day 2 actions and if we were so convinced he was scum yesterday then why did the pile up on Roff happen?
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Yosarian2 (shrug)
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Bah...I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this today, but I don't think I have a choice at this point...
I am a cop.
Night 1, I investigated mikelikesfood, and got a result of not mafia. Which was why I defended him so much yesterday.
Night 2, I investigated Clammy, and he is also not mafia.
I was hoping to go for one more day without claiming, then claim tommorow with 3 innocent investigations for the guarenteed town win, but it's not going to happen, and this wagon is moving way too fast for me to risk trying break it down logically again the way I did yesterady.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Ok then if MLF is town then it takes me back to my IcemanE argument:
Quick vote on Clammy with no real explanation. Later says he is pressuring.icemanE wrote:RS wrote: Even if you did vote him for "Jumping on an easy wagon"
It feels like swaying the wagon onto Roffman from MLF.
unvote - vote: Clammy
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IcemanE wrote:Yes, I agree with Knight and TSPN on MLF.icemanE wrote:Right, forgot to move the vote.
vote: MLFVote: IcemanE
So far you are very quick to vote with no actual reason other than peoples arguments you agree with.-
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Oops, been gone for a bit...
Hrm, I need to get better at connecting things together.
Apologies to the cop for making him out his role.
Darox's unvote and EBWOP after Yos's Claim seemed a little jumpy.
IcemanE's forgetfulness to unvote just seemed a little off to me as well.
So an AlmostFoMS to both of them.-
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Darox... wow. Way to sling mud. You're saying we should lynch them regardless of a fairly believable cop claim, just because you suspect a third party? Awful easy way to get two lynches for scum, if you ask me - especially since we won't know what they are. I think you created that first note, Darox, in order to prepare for a dissimulation technique just like this when a Cop came out with "not mafia" results.
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??!!Darox wrote:Hmm.
Yosarian's cop claim says he got results of 'not mafia' rather than 'innocent'.
This seems suggests you could not be mafia, but also not be town.
Combine this with the first paper note...
Don't know what to make of it, but I'm not eliminating the idea of a third party.
If Yos's claim is true, then they might be survivors or jesters, but....
Your logic is really bad. I read enough Mini Games, and I've seen that the general setup is 8 town, 1 third-party, 3 scum. NOT 2 third-party.
FomS: Darox
In my opinion, the first paper is a hoax from the scum, and the other papers might as well be pro-town or pro-scum. But they might have been written on Day 1 and placed on the 2003 capsule. That's the meaning of my top-of-last-page post-
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So you are suggesting that I somehow knew that there was a cop, AND that they would get 'not mafia' results, and decided to put a piece of paper in the Day 2 capsule to help this along?Knight of Cydonia wrote:Darox... wow. Way to sling mud. You're saying we should lynch them regardless of a fairly believable cop claim, just because you suspect a third party? Awful easy way to get two lynches for scum, if you ask me - especially since we won't know what they are. I think you created that first note, Darox, in order to prepare for a dissimulation technique just like this when a Cop came out with "not mafia" results.
unvote; Vote Darox
Wait, What?
Pacman just suggested that there could be a third party, which supports what I was suggesting.
I don't think we should lynch MLF, because being 'not mafia' is better than not having a definite alignment.-
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Not sure where I stand on the Darox wagon right now. I believe there could be a third party. Yos and I just finished a game with 3 wolves and one hitman.
I don't like KoC saying that Darox wants to lynch MLF because of a third party. Darox was the first to unvote when Yos claimed. How can you say he still wants to lynch? He may be as skeptical as am I of the Not Mafia read.KoC wrote:Darox... wow. Way to sling mud. You're saying we should lynch them regardless of a fairly believable cop claim, just because you suspect a third party?
I am worried about the papers. Which is causing me my indecisivness.
We have papers claiming Ythill is town and we have Yos claiming Clammy and MLF are not mafia. Can we believe the paper? What reason would scum have for telling the town we lynched a townie? Also what reason would scum have for trying to cover up Ythill with a town read when we do not know the setup and it's no reveal?
I believe Yos's claim. But I also want to know how someone would know that Ythill is town. Or is it just Scum taunting us? I had asked before if there was a possible role that investigated dead players for alignment and it seems plausible in a no reveal game for something like that. What would be the point of having paper if the uses of it are ignored?
I apologize for not being around much this week. It's been busy at work and I will not be around this weekend.
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