PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

ISO · Post Post #5400 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:50 am

Actually, strong-willed is a good sign there is a roleblocker. If there is a mafia roleblocker, then it becomes reasonable again that DEB is a town detective here.

3x Masons + Strong-Willed Simple Disloyal Vanilla Cop + Roaming Doc + Odd-Night Vigilante + Detective + Supersaint Enabler vs. Odd Night Roleblocker + Investigative Role + 2x Goon doesn't seem too unreasonable to me, especially when I think it was advertised the setup is roughly balanced here but not guaranteed.

Dunnstral · Post Post #5401 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 am

If he's a town detective, why wasn't he roleblocked...

MURDERCAT · Post Post #5402 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 am

could be 1 shot vig, agree you RB detective for sure.

ISO · Post Post #5403 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:53 am

Again, the roleblocker might be (probably is) gated if it exists. Full roleblockers are notorious for being really strong in scum hands.

ISO · Post Post #5404 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:55 am

I don't know if mastina has thought about the setup much, but she has a good gauge at evaluating balance as well, so I'd be interested in hearing her thoughts.

Dunnstral · Post Post #5405 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:55 am

It can't roleblock the cop which is its gate

Dunnstral · Post Post #5406 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:06 am

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake
We're on evens.

I think there is enough mechanical doubt on DEB to where it would be correct to lim them even if I were scum

Let's eliminate DEB today, Toogaloo hammers, if both slots aren't mafia together, vig can shoot me too. If toog doesn't hammer and It's supersaint, shoot/lim toog

Dunnstral · Post Post #5407 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:08 am

In post 5400, Ircher wrote:Actually, strong-willed is a good sign there is a roleblocker. If there is a mafia roleblocker, then it becomes reasonable again that DEB is a town detective here.

3x Masons + Strong-Willed Simple Disloyal Vanilla Cop + Roaming Doc + Odd-Night Vigilante + Detective + Supersaint Enabler vs. Odd Night Roleblocker + Investigative Role + 2x Goon doesn't seem too unreasonable to me, especially when I think it was advertised the setup is roughly balanced here but not guaranteed.

I don't think the enabler is a red herring.

Supersaint + full roleblocker, without the detective, feels balanced to me

Dunnstral · Post Post #5408 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:10 am

And you know if I were scum I'd have brought up this strong-willed thing 1000 posts ago

ISO · Post Post #5409 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:11 am

UNVOTE: for now.

Dunnstral · Post Post #5410 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:20 am

If masons think that if I'm mafia, I'm supersaint, because I didn't claim vig.

And that DEB is also very likely mafia, before considering mech stuff

Then yeah, the 'optimal play' was not to elim me

Polar Bear Express · Post Post #5411 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:43 am

more dumb catching up

gloria basically filled me in so I'm not even gonna read up for now.
my main comments are that I agree with gloria that outing masons on day 3 was a shitty idea especially given that all three masons seem to me like they're stumbling around in the dark and not agreeing on much.
it could be a good thing tho cuz I came out of last night thinking the scum team was Creature/Double/Murder/Bell so like ..... dumping a tub of ice water on my face is a good thing ig?
I'm losing motivation pretty fast so uh ..... HAVE SOME PUPPY GIFS while you wait for my motivation to return!

-nornor

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #5412 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:40 am

Ugh, Dunnstral is just making it clearer and clearer.
Trying to get the vote over to the Electric Toogaloo, then bailing and just voting me?
Y'all are taking too long, I got my guilty.
Also, shout out PBE for posting the superior pet.

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #5413 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:15 am

Jk cats are cool too, I'm just allergic so ya boy biased.

Toogeloo · Post Post #5414 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:38 am

In post 5398, Dunnstral wrote:No, the best play is to lim toogeloo and then shoot DEB

If you believe this, then the actual best play is to lynch DEB with me hammering the wagon.

In post 5402, MURDERCAT wrote:could be 1 shot vig,

If vig is 1 shit, it would probably be better for them to just claim now, instead of maintain a facade that empowers us with false confidence that we can vig more people.

Toogeloo · Post Post #5415 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am

rofl.

My phone actually autocorrected shot to shit.

Toogeloo · Post Post #5416 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:42 am

I need wagon numbers. I will be voting at L-2 and then immediately inviting for Hated modifier fear on SuperSaint. If lynch did not occur, I will hammer after someone else replaces the vote.

ISO · Post Post #5417 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:48 am

Oh yeah, Netflix flipped Informed Townie...

Solstice · Post Post #5418 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:00 am

[Is it possible scum thought Dr Easy had so little cred and also felt it was unlikely he got a useful result, so they aimed to RB vig instead? Dunno -- it does seem like they'd RB him, yeah. There are a lot of possibilities]

[Don't think i'd be willing to go Toog first, i think Toog should be the hammer vote in either case. I can review Toog (specifically Ali vs. mastina on them) later though to get a better read on them]

~Morning

Creature · Post Post #5419 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:27 am

Is there anything more to be said?

Creature · Post Post #5420 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:27 am

I'm really tired

Creature · Post Post #5421 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:29 am

Can't find the last VC

Creature · Post Post #5422 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:31 am

Oh well the last updated VC won't help at all.

Creature · Post Post #5423 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:32 am

Anyone feeling like playing Russian Roulette?

Creature · Post Post #5424 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:32 am

The players in the PoE must vote for Dunn continually until the thread is locked and Dunn is flipped.