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[skitter30]

indeed
and like i am capable of positioning myself quite nicely as scum so like yeah i get the paranoia, i get variations on that theme a lot

and honestly i'm not sure that this dialogue even happens if you're scum so

[Prism]

It's awkward to me that you're looking for token disagreement, but that a requirement seems to be (not that you have actually said this) that they wind up voting Elements anyway. A sort of reluctant vote a half-assed opposition.

On the last part you're correct.

[skitter30]

yeah exactly, that's what i'm looking for - that's what i meant by token disagreement - like protesting a bit but hops on towards the end

[Prism]

Is there anything that you were particularly looking forward to from me, or just kind of hoping I'd reread and agree with the Bork vote? Not that the latter is a bad thing despite the tone

[skitter30]

ideally the latter, but more that you asked for the time and i'd feel bad ending before you came back since you were busy

[Prism]

Fair enough. Well, time to go alternate vote hunting. Maybe it's a tiger, maybe it's a bear, doubt it's a cobra or a druid.

[skitter30]

when you reread bork's iso, what did you think of his fight with you from way back when?

[skitter30]

Can we walk this whole fucking thing back and get back to why unwnd is scum other than "syr seemed demoralized after the shitposting phase stopped" because I still feel like that's what all this shit boils down to and I am utterly uninclined to move there

noting

[skitter30]

ok upon skimming bork!day1 i think his interactions with syr are maybe anti-partner-y but idk what you see in bork/uwnd that makes you think they can't be partners

[Prism]

when you reread bork's iso, what did you think of his fight with you from way back when?

His not understanding my points was always pretty okay to me, I didn't think it was a big deal alignment wise.

The things I didn't like about him back then were his early post on ffery, instinctively thinking he just wanted to defeat my point over sort me, and his dropping pushing me when he thought he was getting results.

First/second were tonal, third looks more stylistic. Strawman casting was also garbage but I saw him do the same to someone else once (maybe petapan?) and, at the risk of being offensive, he might really just be that obtuse.

The most recent spat was worse imo but this is a dude who has clearly been on tilt from me all game long, and I don't really know what to think about it.

[skitter30]

prism i appreciate this dialogue - i'm gonna circle back to this / bork's iso a bit later tho cuz i'm getting a headache

[Prism]

More specifically, in the most recent spat what I did not like was that he acknowledges what I did not like about his Day 2/was concerned about when asking him questions in 3109. His answers basically affirmed that he was doing what I was concerned about regardless if he was town or scum. Given 3109 it makes 3115 look like he's refusing to connect the dots for the sake of it. I get that it's better to explicitly connect the dots but this really does not take much imagination. The final snapping breakdown of 3129 is ??? given that I...both explained and definitely have not been reticent to explain and restate repeatedly, to the point of him finding me looping back frustrating in itself.

At this point I'm more looking to read outside of those. If there's something in my tonal reads early, great, but those aren't the most dependable indicators.

[Prism]

Sounds good, me too. Thanks for the patience if you're town sitting here while I just go "but ur positioning" for three fucking weeks.

I've got to run into town for a bit anyway.

[Prism]

So where's everyone else at right now?

I know we got bork up to E-1 at some point but I feel like this game is currently being played by like, 3-5 players. This bit us yesterday and will do so again.

[fferyllt]

What I mean by stylistic is that the things I don't like about him are things like:
-Not mentioning me/Ben at all yesterday until I directly asked
-Dropping the push on me Day 1 when he thought he was pressuring scum
-Awkward disengage with Pooky after the no bus meta

The more I see from Bork as a player, the less convinced I am these are AI, and that he is instead much more reserved by nature.

ok so i think the simplest way to get an answer to this is:
@ffery would you agree with this assessment?

By memory, I don't agree, but this is not the kind of stuff I've looked at in developing reads on him.
I'm going to skim a few of our prior games and see if it holds water.

[fferyllt]

Cmon man I haven't even been here to fight with you and your angle still remains the same, where you flip the argument and then turn it against someone. leaving pitfalls in your words for people to fall into. That is why selective reading again, will benefit scum in the long-run

I literally asked why you believed something you said. It's going to be okay, dude.

Giving me some major fucking deja vu right here

OK retrace your thought to me and do it baby steps because now I find myself possibly misinterpreting something

I don't want to fight you, yes I think your actions are scummy but this doesn't need to be another bout

are you literally me

These are the interactions I'm referring to.

I think bork is capable of it

but they're quite good.

Prism, where does the bolded thinking come from? His play in this game? In illicit?

[fferyllt]

ehhhh we can maybe drop vax one level to form a vax/pooky level

reasoning?

[fferyllt]

So where's everyone else at right now?

I know we got bork up to E-1 at some point but I feel like this game is currently being played by like, 3-5 players. This bit us yesterday and will do so again.

I still think bork is scum. If he is, I'm kinda at a loss as to who makes sense as a partner with both him and syr/unwind.

[Prism]

These are the interactions I'm referring to.

I think bork is capable of it

but they're quite good.

Prism, where does the bolded thinking come from? His play in this game? In illicit?

Yes, as a gut feeling, but there is a specific example I can cite: his very early interactions with Syr. If bork is scum, those interactions with Syr were rock solid from bork's side but complete ass from Syr's side, who noticeably really halfassed answering bork.

[Prism]

I think 84 and the post it quotes encapsulates what I mean about the quality of interactions by a Bork/Syr scumteam really well.

[Prism]

I guess that still doesn't quite answer why he's not just town for the posts and why they're not outside of his range, but the answer to that is yes, it's just my estimation of bork from this game that he could give those. I never read a post of his in illicit iirc.

[skitter30]

Sounds good, me too. Thanks for the patience if you're town sitting here while I just go "but ur positioning" for three fucking weeks.

I've got to run into town for a bit anyway.

i promise i'll circle back to the bork iso, but ot may not happen till tomorrow (irl)

[skitter30]

ehhhh we can maybe drop vax one level to form a vax/pooky level

reasoning?

Prism has been very, very town here

Its less abt vax and more abt prism

Ffery i feel very underwhelmed by you rn

[Vaxkiller]

Im honestly not sure waht to say

[Vaxkiller]

Pretend im town. Then waht? Pretend they are town. Then what?