TENET - Game Over

[Titus]

I'm going to ignore this now.

I have life and other games.

[Bell]

There was something about how you need a sufficiently weird explanation for it to be plausible the greater the assertion or something.
Laplace or something?
To me, it’s capital W weird for Titus to do this as scum.

I don’t agree with Spiffeh that the claim is NAI. As this is almost a direct refutation of using motive to scum hunt.

[Brian Skies]

I already did what you asked. You repeating it is spam.

No you haven't. Where have you done this?

[Brian Skies]

Your role

Explain the scum motivation Titus.

Because your argument is that my role makes me scum. And people have explained why that isn't true.

You've also claimed I influenced the turnstile to land on Pisskop and the elimination on Shelly when I clearly had Shelly in my turnstile pool and Pisskop in my elimination pool. I also never voted to turnstile Pisskop and actually voted to eliminate him when he refused to turnstile. So how did I influence this turnstile?

You've also claimed I turnstiled Pooky to protect him, except I had nothing to do with his turnstile. Like at all. So how did I influence that turnstile?

You're claiming I'm setting someone up for a fall after the Bell elimination. Who am I setting up?

What about HP's 'case' on Muffin did you agree with it? Why should I believe you were doing anything other than just opportunistically jumping onto a potential Muffin wagon?

I don't really believe you seriously think I'm OMGUS'ing you here. You opened up with a townread on me and you stated you had no interest in eliminating me anyway. So how is it an OMGUS?

Nothing you've said against me has been substantiated. It's not a buzzword. It's a fact.

This is the post I want you to respond to.

And you just going 'you claimed your role' does nothing to satisfy any of it.

[Bell]

Ceph, if this is NAI then anybpost you read that isn’t a vote is noise.

[Brian Skies]

@Brian like we got neighborized night one so pre-existing neighborhood that is ALSO cross-temporal is ????

What is this in reference to?

[Bell]

You guys are using reduction to an absurd degree.
You’re basically ignoring everything past the lover claim without acknowledging the circumstances at all. Multiple of you in the other thread are talkijng out of both sides of your mouths saying don’twoeey About claimsjust focus on play without acknowledging the very obvious fact that Titus claim and approach here’s is majority play and not “just A NAI claim”

Come on.
Brian also shifting the goal posts and while they admitted they don’y care about this past their read of her play this is just a super perspective

[Bell]

Weird.

[Brian Skies]

What's a super perspective?

[Bell]

@ceph nah, titus claim and approach is highly AI.
If you care at all about sonebodies motivations you will exognize motivation in her post.
Whether that be to deceive or not is up in the air but denying it doesn5 exist is just wrong.

[Hench Princesses]

Subjectively speaking, flavor-wise Nolan veers toward "scummy" romantic pairings. I still haven't seen Tenant, but given other films, i.e. Inception, a scum+town lovers pairing could fit. Flavor spec is not a case, though, just saying I would not rule it out because lovers across time is too romantic a concept.

I guess we could take some time and get some takes on S_S. I suck at reading him personally

-E

[Bell]

What's a super perspective?

Super weird.*
Phone posting.

[Hench Princesses]

okay pisskop's absence isn't AI

he can go back to null then

-E

[Brian Skies]

Come on.
Brian also shifting the goal posts and while they admitted they don’y care about this past their read of her play this is just a super perspective

Look, man.

I'm not discounting that her claim could exist. But it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be town.

She's also complaining that I'm not reconsidering my read on her despite her claim when I've been scumreading her for things outside of this specific thing.

And she also hasn't once reconsidered her read on me the instant I voted her, so why should I care about how she feels about me not reconsidering my read on her?

[Bell]

@ceph correct.

[Bell]

Bad bell: what does that gotta do with scum hunting.
Good Bell: you should both listen to each other and through the power of the dialectical method you should determine the truth!

[Brian Skies]

Through the dialectical method I've determined that Titus is probably just scum.

Your move.

[Gypyx]

i'm so fucking lost

like tbh all these claims are so confusing, i'll just ignore them while things aren't clear

does anyone still disagree with town!bell rn?

[Bell]

i’d rather just wait for better players to sort your interactions and hopefully do a better job of sorting you than I am.

Just gunna out right say: currently, I think you dug in when Titus pushed back and lost perspective because you’re scum
This game. The perspective loss in this case hasn’t to do with your inability to register and consider new data and instead prioritizing the negation of anything that stands in the way of your elimination.

Titus, i’ve seen be This Titus as town before.

I don’t think you would be so quick to make this judgment and not care about new information. Imo, understand?

[Brian Skies]

i think it would actually be an interesting mechanic to force this on scum and watch what they do to avoid the turnstile

I actually wouldn't be surprised if claiming this role is supposed to be their way of avoiding a turnstile.

[Bell]

It’s not like players don’t do this though: see cabd, Titus, a bunch of other people.

I just don’t think they don’t acknowledge competing info internally. You seemed almost proud of the admission but it doesn’t make sense to me.

[Bell]

Has to do*
Not hasn’t To do

[Gypyx]

It’s not like players don’t do this though: see cabd, Titus, a bunch of other people.

I just don’t think they don’t acknowledge competing info internally. You seemed almost proud of the admission but it doesn’t make sense to me.

don't do what?

[Brian Skies]

Just gunna out right say: currently, I think you dug in when Titus pushed back and lost perspective because you’re scum

Well shit. I must be scum then. May as well vote me now.

[Bell]

Anyway that’s my initial impression.
I want to think on it though. I don’t feel great about this rn.