Mini #643: Time Capsule Mafia, Game Over

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I had asked before if there was a possible role that investigated dead players for alignment and it seems plausible in a no reveal game for something like that. What would be the point of having paper if the uses of it are ignored?

Yeah, I'm going to assume that the majority of papers are going to be accurate, because, I mean, in a no-reveal game we're already sort of behind the 8-ball.

Regarding the "not mafia" thing, it doesn't sound like darox meant that clammy and mlf

were

third-parties, only that they might be, but still, it seems a little opportunistic, so my vote will stay.

[Rotten Snitch]

And for that reason I am suspicious of Darox as well. However, I still do not like IcemanE's play right now and I have been trying to make a larger post but work has been in the way.

I will be reading through and posting next week on my main suspicions of him and will also read back on Darox's play.

[icemanE]

The most interesting note so far is the one that cuts off at the maximum amount of letters, maybe tomorrow we'll get the rest of the sentence.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I doubt it. Surely the person who wrote that would have known it'd be cut off... either they wanted to induce this kind of puzzling over it, or they were gambling on getting more paper somehow.

[Yosarian2]

We have papers claiming Ythill is town and we have Yos claiming Clammy and MLF are not mafia. Can we believe the paper? What reason would scum have for telling the town we lynched a townie? Also what reason would scum have for trying to cover up Ythill with a town read when we do not know the setup and it's no reveal?

I wouldn't necessarally "trust" the papers, but I will say that, in a no reveal game, it's fairly common for there to be a "Coroner" role that can find out the alignment of dead people.

[pacman281292]

Pacman just suggested that there could be a third party, which supports what I was suggesting.

ehm... only one third-party at max (town is underpowered, and I think that it's very possible to not to have it).

[Darox]

ehm... only one third-party at max (town is underpowered, and I think that it's very possible to not to have it).

I wasn't suggesting

multiple

third parties.

What makes you think the town is underpowered?

[pacman281292]

ehm... only one third-party at max (town is underpowered, and I think that it's very possible to not to have it).

I wasn't suggesting

multiple

third parties.

What makes you think the town is underpowered?

No-reveal. That makes the town become an extremely uninformed team.

[Darox]

And you don't think the town would have something to make up for that?

[pacman281292]

And you don't think the town would have something to make up for that?

Does not compute *explodes*


Sorry, I didn't understand the question.

Oh, I will be LA during the weekend. Sorry.

[Knight of Cydonia]

He means that surely, in this situation, the town has some pro-town power roles, most likely a coroner as well as Yos's cop claim?

[icemanE]

Surely the person who wrote that would have known it'd be cut off... either they wanted to induce this kind of puzzling over it, or they were gambling on getting more paper somehow.

Hmm... you could be right, but I don't know why they'd want us puzzling over it.

Question: Do you think the coroner would be able to tell us flat out through the paper that we'd killed a scum, and tell us who it is, or would they have to do it in a roundabout fashion without being specific?

[pacman281292]

Oh, I will be LA during the weekend. Sorry.

For a weird reason, I didn't get LA. So, I'm still here

[Darox]

Hmm... you could be right, but I don't know why they'd want us puzzling over it.

Question: Do you think the coroner would be able to tell us flat out through the paper that we'd killed a scum, and tell us who it is, or would they have to do it in a roundabout fashion without being specific?

Why wouldn't they?

Are you suggested a coroner with a post restriction that only applies to paper?

Yosarian was perfectly able to come out and claim his results, so I don't see why anyone else should be unable too, even when writing. Especially when writing.

Also I think the message that got cut off got cut off because the person didn't count his characters.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I think the coroner could theoretically have a restriction like that, but I find it highly unlikely.

[icemanE]

Interesting. Do you think Yos may have got "not mafia" because the no reveal also applies to the mod?

[Knight of Cydonia]

It's possible.

[icemanE]

I'm just interested in how impacting the no reveal is, and that first note about there being no scum sort of tripped me up in my thinking about this game.

[Darox]

I don't think this mechanics discussion is really going anywhere.

So unless someone thinks there is geniune worth in the current discussion, we should either do something like a massclaim, or get back to scumhunting.

[icemanE]

Massclaim works.

[Yosarian2]

Well, we can either massclaim today, or wait one more day. Might be better to wait one more day; probably better if the scum don't know tonight if there's a doctor alive who can protect me or not.

[pacman281292]

Well, we can either massclaim today, or wait one more day. Might be better to wait one more day; probably better if the scum don't know tonight if there's a doctor alive who can protect me or not.

I agree with Yosarian. Don't massclaim today.

Something new to discussion?

[icemanE]

Massclaim tomorrow works just as well. However, just as a sidenote, my role is quite strange, unlike anything I've seen in another game, quite specific and related to the theme of this game, so I'm not 100% sure the massclaim will help us separate friend from foe. Knowing the roles, though, will most likely help, as I'm quite unsure how mine can be usefully applied for the benefit of the town.

[Darox]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Iceman's softclaim was a bad thing.

[icemanE]

Not if we massclaim tomorrow.