In post 197, Diego Hargreeves wrote:@mod are pogo and I allowed to create chess threads in the chess subforum and then treat those threads as part of this game?
You may not discuss this game in the chess subforum, nor are you allowed to post in any other portion of the site using your secret alt unless you have specifically been given permission to do so, such as in a personal notes PT or other PT provided over the course of the game. You may play chess (Or any other similar game) in this thread if you so desire, but I would request that you spoiler any board posts as a courtesy to your fellow players.
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Anyone with avatars from Umbrella Academy were assigned, but you also were able to change your avatar once before the game started. Anyone without one of those, like myself, did that
Based on re-reading the setup, I think Pogo may be town. My gut actually dislikes Vanya the most after re-ISOing everyone.
VOTE: Vanya
They have really not done any actual real sorting beyond what may look like a lazy vote but may have actually been an attempt at trying to possibly signal Ben. All of the more suspicious people in the game being Ben, Allison and Diego seem to be trying to sort, so I think Vanya sticks out by not doing any of that.
I am personally much more suspicious of those who are doing actions like active sorting. Its a way to signal your play style in a very subtle way. In a non-anonymous game it's grossly not alignment telling regardless. Someone who is lurking is more than likely to be town afraid to slip their main, in my opinion.
In post 209, Allison Hargreeves wrote:I am personally much more suspicious of those who are doing actions like active sorting. Its a way to signal your play style in a very subtle way. In a non-anonymous game it's grossly not alignment telling regardless. Someone who is lurking is more than likely to be town afraid to slip their main, in my opinion.
Nah, I think sorting is more likely a towntell than not. I think you maybe possibly confusing playstyles with sorting So I totally don’t get this take. Also if presumably a player has a unique town meta for example, wouldn’t they then be signaling that they’re not scum by this logic?
So you tr Vanya because they’re not doing anything?
In post 208, Pogo Hargreeves wrote:Luther who has Diego sorted aside from Ben? I've not seen anything from him that couldn't have come from either alignment.
My vote isn’t set in stone but currently that is the player I’m most suspicious of. If my strongest townreads convince me to switch or if I feel I should move my vote I will but I find lazy votes suspicious.
In post 209, Allison Hargreeves wrote:I am personally much more suspicious of those who are doing actions like active sorting. Its a way to signal your play style in a very subtle way. In a non-anonymous game it's grossly not alignment telling regardless. Someone who is lurking is more than likely to be town afraid to slip their main, in my opinion.
Nah, I think sorting is more likely a towntell than not. I think you maybe possibly confusing playstyles with sorting So I totally don’t get this take. Also if presumably a player has a unique town meta for example, wouldn’t they then be signaling that they’re not scum by this logic?
So you tr Vanya because they’re not doing anything?
In post 210, Pogo Hargreeves wrote:If we RNG lynch the whole game and scum don't find each other, odds are scum still win.
Yeah and it’s posts like the one Allison just made as why she isn’t a strong townread for me.
With all due respect, and to preserve my main from becoming obvious, please abandon this line of bad logic should you be town here. Otherwise its clear that you were never interested in evaluating me honestly. Sorting bleeds playstyle. You do get the take, you are being purposefully ignorant. Colour me not surprised that your posts bleed an agenda.
In post 209, Allison Hargreeves wrote:I am personally much more suspicious of those who are doing actions like active sorting. Its a way to signal your play style in a very subtle way. In a non-anonymous game it's grossly not alignment telling regardless. Someone who is lurking is more than likely to be town afraid to slip their main, in my opinion.
Nah, I think sorting is more likely a towntell than not. I think you maybe possibly confusing playstyles with sorting So I totally don’t get this take. Also if presumably a player has a unique town meta for example, wouldn’t they then be signaling that they’re not scum by this logic?
So you tr Vanya because they’re not doing anything?
In post 210, Pogo Hargreeves wrote:If we RNG lynch the whole game and scum don't find each other, odds are scum still win.
Yeah and it’s posts like the one Allison just made as why she isn’t a strong townread for me.
With all due respect, and to preserve my main from becoming obvious, please abandon this line of bad logic should you be town here. Otherwise its clear that you were never interested in evaluating me honestly. Sorting bleeds playstyle. You do get the take, you are being purposefully ignorant. Colour me not surprised that your posts bleed an agenda.
Let's vote out mafia now. VOTE: Number 6
No I disagree with you. I think you aren’t distinguishing actual sorting from playstyle type tells. Yes you are correct, it called trying to figure out who’s scum and your methods seem to involve giving townreads to players for not really doing anything. If I was convinced you were scum then I’d be voting you wouldn’t I? I’m saying your insistence that sorting can be possibly seen as scum indicative because it might possibly reveal one’s identity is farfetched in my opinion because if according to you a hypothetical player were to somehow telegraph their town meta would be scum indicative and that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Ben what happened to this stance? Does this no longer apply?
@Ben who do you currently think is scum?
I’m currently townreading Klaus, Reggie, Five and Pogo. Allison is a null. I liked her adamant response to me even if I strongly disagree with the reasoning behind it.
So I guess it’s between Vanya, Ben and Diego probably.
Ben what happened to this stance? Does this no longer apply?
@Ben who do you currently think is scum?
I’m currently townreading Klaus, Reggie, Five and Pogo. Allison is a null. I liked her adamant response to me even if I strongly disagree with the reasoning behind it.
So I guess it’s between Vanya, Ben and Diego probably.
I'm not sure who is scum, I find myself generally agreeing with your direction in reading the people you list as town, but when the conclusion is "scum is therefore between Vanya, Ben, and Diego" it makes me take a step back. Vanya has barely contributed, so while a scum read on them is probably warranted I'm not confident in it. I'm town. Diego I still need more from too.
Basically, your scum list is a townie and two people who haven't given enough to confidently read them. Which basically guarantees me there's some incorrect reads.
Let me do some ISOs in a bit and I'll give my reads
In post 89, Ben Hargreeves wrote:luther, he's scum cause he posted an entry post and soon after ego posted with his main so their partner knows who they are
this is my theory at least
Yeah that’s definitely bad. I almost did the converse but then realized I would be outing who I was, so yeah. I like your avatar eventhough Jingle chose it. It’s Diane Nyugen in case anyone cares.
We are all warned against doing that and you absolutely shouldn’t if your town and if you do an ego post on your main, you should wait a reasonable amount of time, so no one ties it to your alt. I didn’t primarily because I didn’t want to risk main slipping.
I just saw this post. I actually did choose my avatar, thanks
While reading ISOs and such I thought about a problem I might have with reads. I said "I'm scum" or whatever at the start of the game for fun, who knows maybe a mafia wasted their day ability on me because of that. But either way a lot of people took it a bit serious. I wonder if the mafia may have been inclined to town read me after seeing that, thinking I'm their partner
