Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

VP Baltar · Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:01 pm

In post 1823, innocentvillager wrote:is the probability that username is mafia higher or lower than the probability username/Klyne is the solve?

nothing is 100% but I think based on how D1 went it’s like almost impossible. can you come up with a world for why he stays on his partner Klyne at 5 votes a piece on D1, with one other buddy?? Praying that someone will hammer Titus or start a new flash wagon? like no, it just doesn’t happen, not 100%, but still

it’s also theoretically possible username is mafia who bussed Murdercat! I’m certainly not 100% sure he’s not mafia. But I am ruling it out because it’s just kind of dumb.

Yeah, like i said, I generally agree with what you said. I'm not following what the disagreement is here.

Bussing a mafia buddy in that scenario after galaxii got rolled is an easier call to make than not flinching in a bussing game as a wolf on D1.

BUUUTTTTTTT

The most likely scenario there is that username is just town and my solve is right.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:36 pm

In post 1822, Klyne wrote:THIS IS MY VOTE

VOTE: PAGETOPANDY

AHSOKA IF YOU THINK IM WOLF THEN IM JUST BUSSING MY PARTNER HOP ON PAL

I specifically have been saying I think it's VPB, not you.

Pagetop is likely Mafia. I haven't really done the math to understand why Mafia fade isn't preferable, nor do I plan to really think about it, but people have been saying wolf is better today, and without thinking about it, I don't have any objections to looking for wolves as my main pushes have been for my wolf thoughts.

But yeah, that's a fine fade if we are okay getting mafia. There's also a chance they are just a wolf, but I still think it's most likely Username and VPB as wolves.

innocentvillager · Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:02 pm

ughhh idk this game

Ahsoka · Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:09 pm

I really think Klyne is probably town here, and VPB is setting the game up for a Klyne-Ahsoka misfade chain.

innocentvillager · Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:28 pm

why is Klyne town? they were in one of your solves a bit ago

Ahsoka · Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:32 pm

In post 1829, innocentvillager wrote:why is Klyne town? they were in one of your solves a bit ago

I don't think Klyne/VPB are wolves together anymore. I was pushing them as a team, but I don't think I was right. Klyne vs VPB passed the point of me thinking they are doing scum theatre.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:49 pm

In post 1828, Ahsoka wrote:I really think Klyne is probably town here

Based on what?

Ahsoka · Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:59 pm

Based on youWolf, Klyne's general knowledge of gamestate, partner potential.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm

Klynes general knowledge of the game state?

PageTopAndy · Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:26 pm

In post 1828, Ahsoka wrote:I really think Klyne is probably town here, and VPB is setting the game up for a Klyne-Ahsoka misfade chain.

Could you explain what a fade/misfade chain is?

I'd be open to hearing more about your VPB/Username wolf team solve

Ahsoka · Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:54 pm

Meaning fade a townie, then setup another townie to be faded afterwards.

Or he legit thinks I'm Mafia and setting me up for tomorrow that way. It's probably this.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:40 am

In post 1830, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1829, innocentvillager wrote:why is Klyne town? they were in one of your solves a bit ago
I don't think Klyne/VPB are wolves together anymore. I was pushing them as a team, but I don't think I was right. Klyne vs VPB passed the point of me thinking they are doing scum theatre.

In post 1831, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1828, Ahsoka wrote:I really think Klyne is probably town here
Based on what?

also...like...I totally answered this to IV right before

VP Baltar · Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:38 am

In post 1836, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1830, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1829, innocentvillager wrote:why is Klyne town? they were in one of your solves a bit ago
I don't think Klyne/VPB are wolves together anymore. I was pushing them as a team, but I don't think I was right. Klyne vs VPB passed the point of me thinking they are doing scum theatre.

In post 1831, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1828, Ahsoka wrote:I really think Klyne is probably town here
Based on what?
also...like...I totally answered this to IV right before

So what?

innocentvillager · Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:40 am

In post 1833, VP Baltar wrote:Klynes general knowledge of the game state?

i also would like to know what this means

VP Baltar · Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:41 am

Or put more finely, what you're claiming is an answer to my question is an indirect response to iv. What is the point of you saying that? You think I'm scummy for asking you a direct question?

Pedit- @ahoska

innocentvillager · Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:44 am

flavor is there a reason you seem so out of it with this particular game? i get that you are burnt out from playing a lot of scum but, i would've expected you to be pretty actively casing then if this is your towngame, as it's kind of a relief for you?

Ahsoka · Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:41 am

In post 1829, innocentvillager wrote:why is Klyne town? they were in one of your solves a bit ago

In post 1831, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1828, Ahsoka wrote:I really think Klyne is probably town here
Based on what?

dude

Ahsoka · Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:43 am

In post 1840, innocentvillager wrote:flavor is there a reason you seem so out of it with this particular game? i get that you are burnt out from playing a lot of scum but, i would've expected you to be pretty actively casing then if this is your towngame, as it's kind of a relief for you?

I feel like I have been. My thoughts on every slot are out there, I feel like I've solved the game. I'm here quite a bit.

This is an alt, so I log in less than I do on FL/Boonskiies, however I am in more games on this account right now.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:44 am

In post 1839, VP Baltar wrote:Or put more finely, what you're claiming is an answer to my question is an indirect response to iv. What is the point of you saying that? You think I'm scummy for asking you a direct question?

Pedit- @ahoska

Nah, I just see you as scum.

I literally answered IV asking the same question right above the post, but I still answered you and gave more.

It was just an eye roll because it feels like you're actively trying to fluff up reasons to fade me.

This is also an Open game, IV, and I really don't play those too much.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:45 am

Klyne kept pushing me acting like I had been calling him a wolf when I have been specifically calling him not a wolf the majority of this day.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:55 am

In post 1844, Ahsoka wrote:Klyne kept pushing me acting like I had been calling him a wolf when I have been specifically calling him not a wolf the majority of this day.

Why does that make him town? Wouldn't that seem scummy?

Ahsoka · Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:56 am

In post 1845, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1844, Ahsoka wrote:Klyne kept pushing me acting like I had been calling him a wolf when I have been specifically calling him not a wolf the majority of this day.
Why does that make him town? Wouldn't that seem scummy?

Yeah, I can see it as scummy. Really, it comes down to you've been shading and discrediting me all game, so it seems like you're setting me up, and I think the 2 of you have anti partner associations.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:57 am

So maybe I'm looking for reasons to townread Klyne.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:58 am

In post 1843, Ahsoka wrote:It was just an eye roll because it feels like you're actively trying to fluff up reasons to fade me.

Not the case at all. I apologise if I'm being redundant. You're correct that iv asked that question. Your answer seemed indirect, so that is likely why I didn't register it.

I'm not doing things just to piss you off or put on some show. I asked you because I really wanted to know. If you're town here, I want to sync up. Your reads are so out of line with mine that I have to try to get you to realize you're off base if you're town.

Ahsoka · Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:59 am

You're saying I'm scum, how are they supposed to be in line?