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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:03 am

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Xtoxm wrote: And guys, look at how many people are supporting the "1 scum 1 town" theory on lovers.
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We have 1 confirmed townie (thinktank) and 1 claimed townie.

If both the lovers are town, we're fucked, unless the scum are neutered significantly.

Couple that with BG's play, which many people found suspicious. I cannot personally rule out this position.

I don't think I'm going to convince you. Could you paraphrase what BG said pre-game?
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:08 am

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*facepalm*
Oh?

Really, what makes my argument so bad, STD?
I don't think I'm going to convince you.
I don't either.
Could you paraphrase what BG said pre-game?
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:08 am

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LlamaFluff wrote: This is why if there is lover scum its probally xtoxm, mixed with a few things I know. There is a low enough chance at lover scum though right now to hold of lynching them for at least a day. They really shouldnt be getting looked at right now, people like GW, RF, Dragon and even Kloud/EK are better.
But Rock is scum.


RF, good post. I found myself agreeing with most of it.


Xtoxm, people are supporting the 1 scum, 1 town lover pair because it is right.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:16 am

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Xtoxm wrote:
*facepalm*
Oh?

Really, what makes my argument so bad, STD?
I should clarify that you are not the only one I wanted to facepalm to, but I just picked that particular post.

Because I envision a future in which people will say:

"Oh fuck! We're close to deadline! And we have no idea who to lynch!"
"Hey, remember those gut feelings we had on STD at the beginning of the day?"
"Yeah! Let's lynch him without actually providing information for him to defend against, so he's trapped in a corner and forced to tip his hand!"

Yeah, I'll admit that self-preservation is kicking in here, but I'm not going to stand for an argument against me driven on nothing but gut feelings and vibes.
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:19 am

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STD, if we lynch Rock, we can avoid that situation where we lynch some one based off of nothing.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:24 am

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You really want to kill Rock today, don't you?

Have you given a Rock specific case, or are your suspicions mostly on BG?

I'm inclined to believe that Rock is the scum and Xtoxm is the town if the pairing is 1 scum and 1 town (which, of course, I currently suspect to be true).

I want to know what Xtoxm thinks of BG's pregame discussion before I place a vote anywhere (and I don't know if I will after that just yet).
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:45 am

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I'm still here, I didn't "flake."

xtoxm kept asking me in night chat if I had any powers, that's why I didn't respond to him. Why he would ask me that as town is beyond me. Between that and his scummy play, I'm starting to think that he is more than likely scum. I was obviously hoping that wasn't the case, but it looks like we need to be lynched at some point.

I do have a power that I should claim though: I am a watcher. I targeted LF last night and was told that he performed no night action.

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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:45 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote: This is why if there is lover scum its probally xtoxm, mixed with a few things I know. There is a low enough chance at lover scum though right now to hold of lynching them for at least a day. They really shouldnt be getting looked at right now, people like GW, RF, Dragon and even Kloud/EK are better.
But Rock is scum.
Is there anything in rock's play that makes you think he's scum, or it just from babygirl's bandwagon-hopping?
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:47 am

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Regarding reborn, I think it's ridiculous that he apparently can't even read his own role pm, but if kmd (who is one of the towniest players) is corroborating his story then we should believe them.
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:48 am

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Rockatansky wrote:I'm still here, I didn't "flake."

xtoxm kept asking me in night chat if I had any powers, that's why I didn't respond to him. Why he would ask me that as town is beyond me. Between that and his scummy play, I'm starting to think that he is more than likely scum. I was obviously hoping that wasn't the case, but it looks like we need to be lynched at some point.

I do have a power that I should claim though: I am a watcher. I targeted LF last night and was told that he performed no night action.

vote llamafluff
That's not what a watcher does.

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Very interesting post though.
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:48 am

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Rockatansky wrote:I'm still here, I didn't "flake."

xtoxm kept asking me in night chat if I had any powers, that's why I didn't respond to him. Why he would ask me that as town is beyond me. Between that and his scummy play, I'm starting to think that he is more than likely scum. I was obviously hoping that wasn't the case, but it looks like we need to be lynched at some point.

I do have a power that I should claim though: I am a watcher. I targeted LF last night and was told that he performed no night action.

vote llamafluff
OMG simulpost.

So you're a lover AND a watcher? Is that even possible? I'll have to think about this, but I don't know if I've ever heard of a role like this with two powers. It makes me very suspicious of you.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:52 am

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Good call reborn!
wiki wrote:The Watcher is a somewhat common information role that can target a person at night and learn who targeted that person the same night.

The role can be contrasted with the Tracker, who tracks a player to see who they target, rather than who targets them.
It sounds like rock tried to fake tracker, but said watcher.

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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:54 am

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Wow, rock, way to kill yourself!

Sarcasm aside, if you look back at the other claims, the abilities match the character. How does a watcher OR a tracker match Bonnie?
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:55 am

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Rock is a complete idiot, no matter his alignment.

BG told me she was a standard lover.

And he can see our conversation.

Wow, it's starting to like like he might be scum...

But my point stands...We should lynch other scum before us...
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:55 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
OMG simulpost.

So you're a lover AND a watcher? Is that even possible? I'll have to think about this, but I don't know if I've ever heard of a role like this with two powers. It makes me very suspicious of you.
I don't think I'd call being attached at the hip to a likely scum a "power."
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:57 am

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The best thing is, if Rock is town then LF is tomorrow's order of the day, so that post virtually guarantees us AT LEAST one scum, maybe two!

unvote vote Rock
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:57 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Good call reborn!
wiki wrote:The Watcher is a somewhat common information role that can target a person at night and learn who targeted that person the same night.

The role can be contrasted with the Tracker, who tracks a player to see who they target, rather than who targets them.
It sounds like rock tried to fake tracker, but said watcher.

vote rocktansky
The role pm says "watcher." Just like it says "Bonny" even though it's spelled "Bonnie" on the show.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:57 am

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Xtoxm wrote:Rock is a complete idiot, no matter his alignment.

BG told me she was a standard lover.

And he can see our conversation.

Wow, it's starting to like like he might be scum...

But my point stands...We should lynch other scum before us...
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:58 am

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reborn537 wrote:The best thing is, if Rock is town then LF is tomorrow's order of the day, so that post virtually guarantees us AT LEAST one scum, maybe two!

unvote vote Rock
Surely you can see that Rock is BS...
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:58 am

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Xtoxm wrote:Rock is a complete idiot, no matter his alignment.

BG told me she was a standard lover.

And he can see our conversation.

Wow, it's starting to like like he might be scum...

But my point stands...We should lynch other scum before us...
In my mind, rock is certain scum at this point. So, it might be good to have talks about other people and keep scum hunting. But I like the idea of lynching certain scum today, even if you are a townie and have to die too. Sorry.
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:59 am

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Rockatansky wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:Good call reborn!
wiki wrote:The Watcher is a somewhat common information role that can target a person at night and learn who targeted that person the same night.

The role can be contrasted with the Tracker, who tracks a player to see who they target, rather than who targets them.
It sounds like rock tried to fake tracker, but said watcher.

vote rocktansky
The role pm says "watcher." Just like it says "Bonny" even though it's spelled "Bonnie" on the show.
Rock, stop fighting if you're town! You will be avenged tomorrow if you're telling the truth! If you're scum, continuing fighting, I like to eat my prey while still wriggling.

I mean lynch. Or whatever.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:00 pm

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Rockatansky wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:Good call reborn!
wiki wrote:The Watcher is a somewhat common information role that can target a person at night and learn who targeted that person the same night.

The role can be contrasted with the Tracker, who tracks a player to see who they target, rather than who targets them.
It sounds like rock tried to fake tracker, but said watcher.

vote rocktansky
The role pm says "watcher." Just like it says "Bonny" even though it's spelled "Bonnie" on the show.
Rock, stop fighting if you're town! You will be avenged tomorrow if you're telling the truth! If you're scum, continuing fighting, I like to eat my prey while still wriggling.

I mean lynch. Or whatever.
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:01 pm

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Whoopsie
Mod, please delete one of the above posts and this one
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:02 pm

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elvis_knits wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Rock is a complete idiot, no matter his alignment.

BG told me she was a standard lover.

And he can see our conversation.

Wow, it's starting to like like he might be scum...

But my point stands...We should lynch other scum before us...
In my mind, rock is certain scum at this point. So, it might be good to have talks about other people and keep scum hunting. But I like the idea of lynching certain scum today, even if you are a townie and have to die too. Sorry.
It's too risky, but I agree with your sentiment. Now is the time for the lovers to die.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:02 pm

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GhostWriter wrote:Wow, rock, way to kill yourself!

Sarcasm aside, if you look back at the other claims, the abilities match the character. How does a watcher OR a tracker match Bonnie?
Wow, you're exactly right! Herbert and Bonnie are lovers, just like on the show! Joe's not a cop, that's exactly like it is on Family Guy! And remember that episode where Cleveland was a bodyguard? That one's the best!

You sound pretty desperate to cast suspicion on anyone other than yourself.

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