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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:12 pm

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In post 558, quiet wrote:@norweigianEE, how do you propose to give the game a push?

@gamma cheeky could be scummy, but not with the info I have. If you have a better read I’m happy to hear it. Otherwise, it feels better to push there in a day or two from my perspective. I’m not discrediting the suspicion, just don’t like that wagon rn.

It’s my understanding that it’s good to push productive wagons, especially this early in the day? But maybe I’m missing something. Is cheeky your most scummy read?
Yeah she is, and you say Cheeky isn’t scummy rn, but the key elements of her play seems to be shading others and useless commentary. That’s not what I expect from Cheeky nor what I expect from town. And her post announcing her leaving is a sign that she’s meeting some nebulous quota of content and then buggering off. Scum do that so they are seen as giving content but also have more wanted from them, keeping themselves just beyond the threshold of being voted by seeming useful.
In post 559, chkflip wrote:
In post 420, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: cheekyteeky
In post 418, CheekyTeeky wrote:Sorry guys for the mass spam I don't have much time but that should be enough stirring until my return xx
This is a scum approach
*sees post number* Nice.

Just do the gamestate a favor and just start from the beginning.
I’ve been considering re-reading but still fuck you.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:13 pm

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In post 567, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Should I TM an axis of evil in this game?
uh what

By the way I think the Cheeky wagon should definitely happen with all the sudden naysayers. This feels like IKS in Guitarists mafia.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:09 pm

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In post 565, Titus wrote:I see Molla as possible scum and have NPOM as town. I don't see why the two must be linked.
They mustn't be. I was just poking.
In post 575, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve been considering re-reading but still fuck you.
You misunderstand. I meant elaborate so people understand where you're coming from (which is why I quoted your vote).

heybbmolla better you than me, buddy :lol:
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:14 pm

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In post 537, Gamma Emerald wrote:What newb, and which statement
Quiet for the newbie tell
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:59 pm

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In post 574, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 572, BBmolla wrote:
In post 570, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 566, BBmolla wrote:
In post 548, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 379, BBmolla wrote:nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh
and this is pssible TMI. How does he know the alignments of 5 other players? If not why are my reads "bad"?
lmfao
not helping
your fucking logic is ridiculous here nero do I actually need to explain why it's ridiculous
yes
I know for a fact one of your reads is wrong, and I disagree on another read, so they're bad

I don't need to be clairvoyant about every single one of your reads to call them bad bro
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:27 pm

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In post 475, Titus wrote:
In post 473, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 195, Rannygazoo wrote:NPOM is unreadable. If any investigative role out there wants to check them tonight, don’t let me stop you.

TITUS: This is the post I thought was a RB crumb.
I disagree on that being an RB crumb. I read it as an invest crumb myself if anything at all. Either that or just straight out asking for it.

As an RB, he couldn't determine who to block based on their results/target.
Doesnt matter what crumb it is, in my perspective no crumb should be questioned especially on day one as you dont want to out PRs
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:29 pm

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In post 507, quiet wrote:I’ll throw out my RVS, because as far as I’m concerned, we’re still in it
What makes you think this?
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:33 pm

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In post 529, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This game needs an actual good push to get some good discussion going.
How do you suggest we do this?
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:35 pm

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In post 534, BBmolla wrote:the Cheeky votes are borin
Why do you say this
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm

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In post 535, Momrangal wrote:I read, I think my vote on DBG is wrong but I don't wanna remove it.
Thats a weird statement.. Explain?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm

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In post 535, Momrangal wrote:Not liking gamma
What dont you like about them?
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:37 pm

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In post 549, Titus wrote:This is scum.
Why?
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:39 pm

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In post 551, Titus wrote:Is cheeky hawker gamma plus quiet
You are calling people scum with no explanation or anything. Why are these people scum to you
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 pm

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ah nvm that is scum, your reads are good sans your read of me nero

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:43 pm

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In post 588, BBmolla wrote:ah nvm that is scum,
What is scum?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:43 pm

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u :(
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:45 pm

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In post 590, BBmolla wrote:u :(
Mind explaining how?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:07 pm

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A possibility that entered my mind when I read the above posts:

Mini: does nothing
In post 158, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: MiniMegabyte
Mini, i distinctly remember your meta as scum is to do literally nothing.
Mini in scum pt: I’m being scumread for doing nothing, what should I do

Scum partner: just look interested by asking questions

Mini: ok.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:13 pm

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In post 592, Luca Blight wrote:A possibility that entered my mind when I read the above posts:

Mini: does nothing
In post 158, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: MiniMegabyte
Mini, i distinctly remember your meta as scum is to do literally nothing.
Mini in scum pt: I’m being scumread for doing nothing, what should I do

Scum partner: just look interested by asking questions

Mini: ok.
You are seriously doing this again

I am not scum
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:39 pm

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I’m giving you more leeway this time which is why I’m not voting you, but you’re not above suspicion.

It seems like you’re trying harder this game (which I appreciate) but it seems like you’re just trying to look busy by asking ‘why’ to everything you can find. That is the easiest way for scum to look busy or helpful without actually doing anything.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:41 pm

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In post 506, quiet wrote:Heya! Second game, first outta newbie queue, be easy.

First impressions, no looking back at posts, after one causal read-through:

BB {fake}claiming day1 is already the BB I know and love and this is literally my second game. A happy NAI from me. Enjoyed the interplay, but probably won’t read into too many of the reactions to it.

Except Mr. Ping pong paddle, I think that gleeful style might be what I want to be when I grow up. Game is hard, but should be fun.

EE stood out in my first readthrough. I’m impressed as hell that anyone could have a townlist that sized twenty pages into day1. On my re-read, I want to see how everyone else interacted with them. As it is, the high effort and some of the...reactionary responses? they offered might help me sort a little.

Gemma also stood out, maybe because of number of posts, maybe because of the “I don’t like how this day is going, I’m not able to play how I wanted” comment which I think is pretty much how I see their day. Maybe you said it and I missed it, but...how do you want to play? Is there a particular reason why BB being BB messes with that? Especially in a game of this size?

I barely remember the wagons. The new Joyed one came from nowhere as far as I could tell on a first read; I had DGR or DGB or whatever the acronym is as strange but not wagonworthy, and I’m sure there was someone else but clearly I didn’t credit that wagon enough to make note of it.

People I kinda liked on first read:
Titus, ping pong, Gamma, rainyCat, and I think Luca. I reserve the right to flip on all of these; this is one read through flash impressions.

Excited to play!
Don't worry, it's also my first game out of newbie games. I townleaning this post, at least for now.

My town reads: Gamma, Mini, Quiet, Norwegian, Norfolk, Luca Blight
NAI: BBmolia, Nomrangal, Titus
Scum read: DGB

Sorry for an incomplete list, I am still back reading posts.

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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:42 pm

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In post 594, Luca Blight wrote:It seems like you’re trying harder this game (which I appreciate) but it seems like you’re just trying to look busy by asking ‘why’ to everything you can find. That is the easiest way for scum to look busy or helpful without actually doing anything.
I am questioning things that dont have explanations because explanations is vital to help scumhunt
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:58 pm

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In post 575, Gamma Emerald wrote:the key elements of her play seems to be shading others and useless commentary. That’s not what I expect from Cheeky nor what I expect from town. And her post announcing her leaving is a sign that she’s meeting some nebulous quota of content and then buggering off. Scum do that so they are seen as giving content but also have more wanted from them, keeping themselves just beyond the threshold of being voted by seeming useful.
I think this is kind of my point, just from the other direction. It’s not what you expect from Cheeky is the part of the read I don’t have the info for. It’s not what you’d expect of town? I don’t think that’s as conclusive. If anything, the “oh don’t worry about me I’ll be back see ya” play calls a lot of unwanted attention, as your sus kinda shows. Seems easier just to...not say anything. Or throw less shade. Or do something else.

Now if this is atypical of cheeky, I like the read more. I’m actually decently interested in exploring it. Just don’t see the point when they aren’t here to chime in. Sure, we get to hear from other people, but I like it when my wagons get to experience the pressure in person. Much more satisfying imo.

Maybe I’m stupid, but I liked Mini’s most recent wall of questions, and saw them as towny. Was kinda sad I didn’t get one.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:03 pm

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Like don’t get me wrong, I understand where Luca is coming from, but

The mafia PT theory is not convincing to me whatsoever

The idea that asking a lot of questions and not giving reads is just filler seems to come up a lot, but again I wonder if scum actually does this with any frequency. Can anyone give me an example of a game where scum produces filler content? I’d love to see some examples of what this filler looks like in practice, because if this is it, again, it calls a lot of attention to itself. Wouldn’t filler content try to be more subtle?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:15 pm

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In post 581, MiniMegabyte wrote:What makes you think this?
Oh my I DID get a question after all!

I considered the game still in RVS because I had only read through the thread once, none of the wagons had really picked up any kind of steam, and frankly none of them stood out to me so much on the first read that I wanted to throw my vote on, which I knew I wanted to do. I was hoping that going back and choosing between wagons would be a smaller scope that I could try to scumhunt within, but then it all went to shit and the biggest part of my read on DGB got disproven literally while I was writing my post deciding to jump on that wagon. So clearly even that smaller scope wasn’t enough.


Plus I’m still new enough that RVS hasn’t lost its luster, it made me happy to draw a line in the sand. My whole identity as a newbie is threatened by the existence of another and it felt productive to draw the line in the sand. They did say I was towny though, so I guess I can share the role.

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