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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:02 am

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Vote Count 2.1Diego Hargreeves (3): , , ,
Allison Hargreeves (2): , ,
Ben Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Klaus Hargreeves (0):
Luther Hargreeves (0):
Pogo Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):

Not Voting (3): Diego Hargreeves, , ,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate!

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-19 00:00:00)!

In post 1565, Allison Hargreeves wrote:there is something we should know first though:
@bingle if we no lim, is the onua on mafia to kill here?
No. My modding philosophy is that of threefold repetition. If after three day/night cycles there has been no meaningful change in the game state (an elimination/kill/information gain etc.) then rocks fall and kill everyone and the game ends in a draw. It is up to the individual how they personally view a draw.

In post 1711, Luther Hargreeves wrote:@mod, scum would be told if the replacement was their buddy, right?
No. As per rule seven, I would not have acknowledged replacements in any way.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:06 am

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Good morning.

So lots of wordy word words. Not in the mood to read it all as I have things to do today.

So Diego?
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:06 am

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In post 57, Klaus Hargreeves wrote:
In post 56, Reginald Hargreeves wrote: Such a shame really, I suppose I am going to have to promote 2 to fill the position of the leader of the umbrella academy
How is Diego Hargreeves a townie?
In post 63, Reginald Hargreeves wrote:Theres no need to be hasty, 4. My vote will be dropped in time. For the time being, my suspicious are where they stand
Klaus clearly not a buddy.
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:11 am

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Luther come hammer Diego with me.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:11 am

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In post 1775, Jingle wrote:
In post 1711, Luther Hargreeves wrote:@mod, scum would be told if the replacement was their buddy, right?
No. As per rule seven, I would not have acknowledged replacements in any way.
Wow, this is really interesting then because bugs is scum, then they would have been the one who needed to signal. So Reggie would definitely not have been looking for bugs then.
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:13 am

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In post 1778, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Luther come hammer Diego with me.
In post 1773, Jingle wrote:
Vote Count 2.1Diego Hargreeves (4): , , ,
Allison Hargreeves (2): , ,
Ben Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Klaus Hargreeves (0):
Luther Hargreeves (0):
Pogo Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):

Not Voting (2): Diego Hargreeves, , ,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate!

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-19 00:00:00)!
You’re voting Allison.
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:14 am

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In post 1780, Luther Hargreeves wrote:
In post 1778, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Luther come hammer Diego with me.
In post 1773, Jingle wrote:
Vote Count 2.1Diego Hargreeves (4): , , ,
Allison Hargreeves (2): , ,
Ben Hargreeves (0):
Five Hargreeves (0):
Klaus Hargreeves (0):
Luther Hargreeves (0):
Pogo Hargreeves (0):
Vanya Hargreeves (0):

Not Voting (2): Diego Hargreeves, , ,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate!

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-19 00:00:00)!
You’re voting Allison.
Yup. I plan on hammering when you vote Diego or staying on Allison or just moving to whatever popular wagon comes up. This day needed to end ages ago.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:17 am

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Everyone is so focused on being “right” and the hero vs just working though things methodically.

If we miselim twice and still have a game whoever is left can sort through all the days. We have so many “clears” that this game should be autopilot
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:24 am

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we should kill Diego
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 1779, Luther Hargreeves wrote:
In post 1775, Jingle wrote:
In post 1711, Luther Hargreeves wrote:@mod, scum would be told if the replacement was their buddy, right?
No. As per rule seven, I would not have acknowledged replacements in any way.
Wow, this is really interesting then because bugs is scum, then they would have been the one who needed to signal. So Reggie would definitely not have been looking for bugs then.
Like this obviously changes things doesn’t it? Because it means that Reggie wasn’t looking for bugs. So if mini was the name Reggie receuved then either scum!Diego no killed or Reggie thought mini was someone else.

It could also be that the reason Reggie pushed Ben so hard was he knew it wasn’t mini because if he was confident on Diego being mini then would he try to kill Ben?

Was Five in real danger at the point where Reggie voted him?

Diego isn’t a terrible flip by any means but I just don’t know why I’m not feeling that Diego is obvscum here. Did bugs make it clear at any point theyreplaced in for mini?

Also why did they specifically ask Pogo to play chess with them? Did bugs have any reason to think Pogo was mom?
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:38 am

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In post 1200, Diego Hargreeves wrote:YEAH? well why is that main slip alignment indicative?
it's literally not useful for any scum trying to find their partner because nobody recieved a role pm with the name bugspray in it
Something isn’t adding up for me and that last time I thought that was right. I at the very least think we should hear from Diego before we hammer them. I don’t see how that hurts us.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:41 am

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In post 1774, Luther Hargreeves wrote:
In post 231, Diego Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: reginaldtalk to mee
In post 239, Diego Hargreeves wrote:confidence is nai when they are roleplaying and i think reginald is roleplaying
In post 241, Diego Hargreeves wrote:I'm inclined to policy sr anyone who calls people by numbers instead of names because it just makes it harder for your posts to be understood and i believe on a mecroplay level that benefits scum
Posts like this give me pause.

UNVOTE:
That is before Reginald gave his signal. Although, looking back, it is interesting how immediately after, Diego calls him out on it.
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In post 833, Diego Hargreeves wrote:
In post 831, Reginald Hargreeves wrote:For example, I am certain momrangal has no familiarity with any of the faces having just returned to the scene. Should she be one of the hidden enemies, her job was made that much easier for her to do.
excuse me, what the fuck is this?
In post 835, Diego Hargreeves wrote:i'm thinking that was just a really lowball attempt at signalling your partner, although we can theoretically clear claimed pairs assumin scum doesn't galaxy brain wifom delayed nut button mountain
In post 836, Diego Hargreeves wrote:fuck what if scum just like delays the nut button until a townie mainclaims so that it looks like they are scum?
In post 837, Diego Hargreeves wrote:reginald coming back like this just looks incredibly scummmy
In post 839, Diego Hargreeves wrote:
In post 838, Reginald Hargreeves wrote:Do you really think that I would be so obvious
yes


but then they immediately reverse direction with:
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In post 841, Diego Hargreeves wrote:ok that's a good point
In post 848, Diego Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: ben
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:43 am

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i should go look more closely at when diego voted reginald later on
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:01 am

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In post 1786, Klaus Hargreeves wrote:
In post 1774, Luther Hargreeves wrote:
In post 231, Diego Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: reginaldtalk to mee
In post 239, Diego Hargreeves wrote:confidence is nai when they are roleplaying and i think reginald is roleplaying
In post 241, Diego Hargreeves wrote:I'm inclined to policy sr anyone who calls people by numbers instead of names because it just makes it harder for your posts to be understood and i believe on a mecroplay level that benefits scum
Posts like this give me pause.

UNVOTE:
That is before Reginald gave his signal. Although, looking back, it is interesting how immediately after, Diego calls him out on it.
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In post 833, Diego Hargreeves wrote:
In post 831, Reginald Hargreeves wrote:For example, I am certain momrangal has no familiarity with any of the faces having just returned to the scene. Should she be one of the hidden enemies, her job was made that much easier for her to do.
excuse me, what the fuck is this?
In post 835, Diego Hargreeves wrote:i'm thinking that was just a really lowball attempt at signalling your partner, although we can theoretically clear claimed pairs assumin scum doesn't galaxy brain wifom delayed nut button mountain
In post 836, Diego Hargreeves wrote:fuck what if scum just like delays the nut button until a townie mainclaims so that it looks like they are scum?
In post 837, Diego Hargreeves wrote:reginald coming back like this just looks incredibly scummmy
In post 839, Diego Hargreeves wrote:
In post 838, Reginald Hargreeves wrote:Do you really think that I would be so obvious
yes


but then they immediately reverse direction with:
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In post 841, Diego Hargreeves wrote:ok that's a good point
In post 848, Diego Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: ben
Yes, that’s definitely concerning. In a regular game, I would probably view that as a coordinated scum gambit but then you also need to think if scum guessed wrong on their buddy or if they intentionally no killed. My theory is scum guessing wrong is more likely then a deliberate no kill but it’s obviously possible that I could be wrong about that.
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:04 am

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In Dung Beetle 2, town!bugs insisted that town!Tayl0r was their #1 tr and that they were never voting her only to be immediately persuaded to do just that, so unfortunately for bugs, the reversal on Ben is totally NAI for them.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:05 am

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the biggest reason to vote Diego imo is the way Reginald acted about mini
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:07 am

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i don't think they could have pivoted onto five there. it would have been very transparent following reginald around onto ben and then five. they were townreading five at that point.

but, they didn't have to vote for reginald, they could have come up with a reason to go on someone else. instead they went and inspired people to vote for reginald. so, we have to believe diego was bussing which i'm unsure about.

pedit: i still think the first sentence applies even with that meta. it would be one thing to switch on a town read with reginald once, it would be another to do the same thing twice.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 1789, Luther Hargreeves wrote:In Dung Beetle 2, town!bugs insisted that town!Tayl0r was their #1 tr and that they were never voting her only to be immediately persuaded to do just that, so unfortunately for bugs, the reversal on Ben is totally NAI for them.
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=84699&user_select%5B%5D=32588


They did a very similar 180 on Tayl0r in this game.
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 1052, Pogo Hargreeves wrote:Diego/Reginald not SvS
Five/Reginald not SvS.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:12 am

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In post 1790, Ben Hargreeves wrote:the biggest reason to vote Diego imo is the way Reginald acted about mini
Yes that is a good point but did Reggie actually think mini was Diego because if he correctly guessed Diego, then wouldn’t have there been an NK unless bugs intentionally no killed?
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:13 am

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a no kill is very possible
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:15 am

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In post 1049, Diego Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: reginald hopping on that five wagon felt sketch and i remember sring you when i woke up for it but couldnt post because not logged in on my phone and having more thoughts that i let drift out of my head in a puff of foolish whimsy (the act of letting them drift is the puff, not the thoughts)
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 am

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In post 1795, Klaus Hargreeves wrote:a no kill is very possible
I guess that’s definitely possible to throw us off, if Reggie really did think Diego’s mini. I’m probably just way overthinking this.

And them hammering Reggie post self outting obviously doesn’t get them townpoints. I think Reggie outted to save either Duego or Five, because if their buddy was in a really good spot like Allison is suggesting, then why not save themself? Reggie didn’t even try and I think that if scum wasn’t in either Diego or Five, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have made more of an effort.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:34 am

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Pretty much I think it’s Diego or Five.
Don’t care which. If we’re wrong just elim the other.

In the rare care we’re still wrong then almost all deep wolf candidates will be gone for elo
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:37 am

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yeah, i'm still on board with diego.

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