TENET - Algorithm Assembled

[Firebringer]

yeah i find his stance on Dandellion weird given stance on LLD theres def some dissonance between reads where u would think person would rationalize it or acknowledge it better. if that makes sense.

[Spiffeh]

I am really starting to think Brian is scum now

I can somewhat buy his justification for keeping his vote on Dandelion now (still awful overall, but it's at least grounded in reason), I DO NOT buy that he votes Dandelion over LLD in any scenario:

In his reads list (209) he has LLD in the lowest spot and Dandelion around the middle of the pack. At this point Dandelion or Dunn had already mentioned LLD fucking up her claim in the neighborhood so it was clear we were getting Dandelion/Dunn vs. LLD, but he starts the Dandelion wagon with no explanation and is unphased when Pooky and midwaybear (two players LOWER and therefore scummier than Dandelion in his reads list) insta-vote in response. And then he says he's leaving for the night?????

This is not town-in-LYLO behavior and any credibility he has gained throughout the game has been completely dashed in my eyes

Quoting this every page so it isn't ever forgotten

[Brian Skies]

I'm an instigator. That's how I play.

Firebringer drew first blood by voting Dandelion. And I was in the middle of trying to sort out my middle-ish reads. Pooky gave an interesting argument that if Cabd and Ceph are town, then they've greatly underperformed and they've been in the most control this game. I still think Firebringer is more likely town than all of them and I told them I was going to leave my vote on for the night and went to work (and I work long hours), and no one said anything.

I was expecting either a scumflip or a game over on my return. I got neither. And I was gone for over 12 hours. My vote has been on them for approximately 24 hours now. So what am I supposed to think now?

Also, I don't believe for one second that LLD flubs her claim that hard unless it was intentional. She's not that bad of a scum player. Especially when she had at least 1-2 (maybe 3) scumbuddies in the Forwards Thread Day 1 when we eliminated Shelly over the flavor and roleclaim argument.

[Firebringer]

I'm an instigator. That's how I play.

Firebringer drew first blood by voting Dandelion. And I was in the middle of trying to sort out my middle-ish reads. Pooky gave an interesting argument that if Cabd and Ceph are town, then they've greatly underperformed and they've been in the most control this game. I still think Firebringer is more likely town than all of them and I told them I was going to leave my vote on for the night and went to work (and I work long hours), and no one said anything.

I was expecting either a scumflip or a game over on my return. I got neither. And I was gone for over 12 hours. My vote has been on them for approximately 24 hours now. So what am I supposed to think now?

Also, I don't believe for one second that LLD flubs her claim that hard unless it was intentional. She's not that bad of a scum player. Especially when she had at least 1-2 (maybe 3) scumbuddies in the Forwards Thread Day 1 when we eliminated Shelly over the flavor and roleclaim argument.

Dont u feel the wagon was sketchy besides me though? And LLD wants it too.

I just feel its a super weird wagon to jump on just cause u think im town lol.

[Brian Skies]

And then look at LLD's attitude where she's like 'Brian's vote doesn't make sense, why is he voting Dandelion over ME' as if I wrecked some plan of hers.

[Spiffeh]

{LLD, Almost50, Pooky, Brian, midwaybear?, Annie Edison?}

My current solve

[Brian Skies]

Dont u feel the wagon was sketchy besides me though? And LLD wants it too.

I just feel its a super weird wagon to jump on just cause u think im town lol.

The only vote I thought was weird was maybe mine (because that's not where I was leading coming into today) and definitely MWB's. The only other two votes were yours and Pooky's (and Pooky was campaigning for me to vote there).

[Brian Skies]

Also, I didnt jump on just because I thought you were town.

You already voted and I figured 'well this is probably the wagon we're betting the game on today' and Pooky's argument pushed me over to joining you.

[Brian Skies]

Are people that think LLD is scum just townreading SB9 because 'too dumb to be scum' or what?

[Firebringer]

brian u in tht mindset of lets just get his game over with?

[Spiffeh]

Brian since Dandelion is confirmed scum to you in your mind, what is the rest of the scum team?

{Dandelion, LLD, A50...}

Who else?

[Spiffeh]

LLD is caught scum, I wouldn't put much stock into any of her posts or associations today

They are chock full of manipulation and lies!!!!

[Brian Skies]

brian u in tht mindset of lets just get his game over with?

Yes and no.

Yes, I would be happy to be out of this game.

No, I'm not going to throw to do it.

Also, unlike the rest of you who seem to be in super-cautious mode (which I don't blame any of you for), I feel like we need to make a big play to turn things in our favor. Taking the scraps that scum are throwing us (LLD-lynch) just seems like delaying the inevitable. I'd rather just go for the big play and if I fail, then at least I can say I tried.

[Brian Skies]

I would literally vote to eliminate any of {Dandelion, SB9, A50, Gyx, LLD}.

[Spiffeh]

In my mind LLD lim is the sure thing that gets us to tomorrow where the town players that died last phase all resurrect

(Who are probably going to fucking call me scum btw if peta/Bell/skitter's earlier reads on me are any indication so that should be fun)

I'm not doing anyone but LLD today

[Firebringer]

brian u in tht mindset of lets just get his game over with?

Yes and no.

Yes, I would be happy to be out of this game.

No, I'm not going to throw to do it.

Also, unlike the rest of you who seem to be in super-cautious mode (which I don't blame any of you for), I feel like we need to make a big play to turn things in our favor. Taking the scraps that scum are throwing us (LLD-lynch) just seems like delaying the inevitable. I'd rather just go for the big play and if I fail, then at least I can say I tried.

I think taking the guranteee scum over the less gurantee scum is always better though. I get the mindset of "lets find the teammates of LLD" but everytime ive seen town attempt to do what ur saying, they lose automatically. leaving 1000% positive scum alive doesn't a good plan make

[Almost50]

Okay pop quiz everyone.

Does your power role have ANY flavor reasoning attached to it whatsoever?

A simple yes or no.

No

[Brian Skies]

I never said I wouldn't vote LLD. I just said I don't see any reason to unvote Dandelion, so I'm not going to.

[Spiffeh]

I will consider Dandelion/LLD crossbus more tomorrow when we have confirmed town to bounce those ideas off of, particularly ffery/bork who have been with Cabd/Cephy in the neighborhood the whole game

[Firebringer]

I never said I wouldn't vote LLD. I just said I don't see any reason to unvote Dandelion, so I'm not going to.

who is stronger read LLD or Dandellion?

[Brian Skies]

I will consider Dandelion/LLD crossbus more tomorrow when we have confirmed town to bounce those ideas off of, particularly ffery/bork who have been with Cabd/Cephy in the neighborhood the whole game

Like, Fferyhydra kicked the bucket right after they turned their backs on Cephhydra, as basically just a VT, and you don't think that's suspicious at all?

[Brian Skies]

I never said I wouldn't vote LLD. I just said I don't see any reason to unvote Dandelion, so I'm not going to.

who is stronger read LLD or Dandellion?

At this point, they're both scum to me. So if an LLD wagon happened, I'd vote there.

[Brian Skies]

I'd join a wagon on any of {LLD, Dandelion, A50, Gyx, SB9}.

[Spiffeh]

I actually came into today scumreading Dandelion

I thought the push against them by Pooky/mwb/you combined with LLD's scum claim looked like scum were trying to quick push them

That may have caused me to overcorrect my reads in a way that probably isn't warranted, but I am considering them more than I've made apparent.

Between the two of you there is probably one scum, and I am leaning towards you but not committed to it.

At this point I'm just trying to get the obvscum out of the way and hope I get nk'd so I don't have to deal with the five other LYLO's we're gonna have if we make it that far

[Spiffeh]

Can you go more in depth on the superbowl9 read? I'm not seeing it