BooneyToonz XV: Dance of the Dark Fairy [Third Moonlight]


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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:39 pm

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In post 1095, Sequence wrote:
In post 1091, unwnd wrote:Quote this post or remember it but either Norwee dies or I give one of Cakez/Norwee a fruit and you see them either be confirmed town or me dead in the graveyard.
You realize that IF mafia have the inverted modifier or an ability related, they can easily fool you with this obvious a target. Again, the key here is to
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:40 pm

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Town seems set up to ruin each other with prs.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:40 pm

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In post 1099, Special BROvert Ops wrote:town only had an illusion of power because they were stupid and trusted Ydrasse

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no no no, town had an illusion of power on a role level, it had nothing to do with the players

like I said in my post
In post 1025, samantha97 wrote:As you can see, it's stuffed with a lot of negative utility. So much so that you could argue it would make sense for town to never use their abilities. Not only can the hider and neighbor kill themselves, but the fruit vendor can unwittingly frame town by targeting a commuter (or the target of the enchantress). And the magical fairy/enchantress/mafia fruit vendor can all help the town fruit vendor falsely clear mafia as town. Also, commuters essentially only served to interfere with town, because inverted works on nightkills. The enchantress would have to die to make commuting have even a chance at blocking a nightkill, and even then you could simply ignore all of them if you know who they are.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:42 pm

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In post 1025, samantha97 wrote:If you couldn't tell already, I think being as open and honest as possible as soon as possible is the best way for town to win mafia games in general. Especially in a game with as many booby traps as this one. I strongly suggest we do the dreaded ~Day 1 Massclaim~
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:43 pm

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expected, mafiacat
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:44 pm

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I think if you kill

Norwee/Cakez/Angel/Lunar/Flea/Koba

You have some scum in the graveyard. No herosolves just probably some scum in there? OK? Ok.

I think if I were to weigh them on how confident I am it'd be like Norwee > Cajez > Angel > Flea > Koba.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:45 pm

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In post 1103, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1025, samantha97 wrote:If you couldn't tell already, I think being as open and honest as possible as soon as possible is the best way for town to win mafia games in general. Especially in a game with as many booby traps as this one. I strongly suggest we do the dreaded ~Day 1 Massclaim~
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 pm

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I think someone like Toog could become a problem if unchecked, but that's just seated paranoia. You can put Rei/Asuka in that position as well, but D1 I don't act on paranoia unless it's so strong that it makes me see things.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 pm

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there are already 4 hardclaims and 3 softclaims including 2 investigatives

being against massclaim at this point is senseless

but if so many people are resistant then at least everyone should behave as vanilla and never use their abilities
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:48 pm

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That's 7 claims unaccounted for and I would like to keep it that way
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:48 pm

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I'm gunna be really annoyed if we massclaim today
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:51 pm

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this game, the last one, and the one I modded I feel like all share a central core design philosophy. That is: red herrings, overpopulation of certain roles, and town having to navigate the morass to not get slaughtered on the mechanics side of things. You want to know what is possible throughout all of that? DAY PLAY. The focus of Booneytoonz seems to be forcing town to have good day play via a gnarl of PRs. Honestly, minefield or puzzle, that doesn't matter because it amounts to the same situation of town having to be good at day play to succeed. I actually recall this being confirmed by boon himself in the dead thread for the last game. And let's consider a game feel is similar in design to your average Booneytoonz game: Among Us Mafia, moderated by thestatusquo. At the start, town had a severe nightplay disadvantage due to two scum PRs that could wreck their shit if they tried for the alternate wincon. But thanks to town limming scum 3 days in a row, two of those just being off of dayplay, and the two scum PRs getting taken out through that, town ended up with a numbers+power advantage that let them easily achieve the alternate wincon while also having plenty of time to figure out the remaining mafia if that somehow fell through. You wanna try to break the game via nightplay? You're gonna have to put in the work with the dayplay first.

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that kinda ran all over itself but I'm p sure the message got across well enough
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:56 pm

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In post 1105, unwnd wrote:I think if you kill

Norwee/Cakez/Angel/Lunar/Flea/Koba

You have some scum in the graveyard. No herosolves just probably some scum in there? OK? Ok.

I think if I were to weigh them on how confident I am it'd be like Norwee > Cajez > Angel > Flea > Koba.
Why do you town read engima?

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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:57 pm

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I don't, I have no strong townreads and if I did I would absolutely said something

I'm not connecting with the thread in ways that I like to
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 1113, unwnd wrote:I don't, I have no strong townreads and if I did I would absolutely said something

I'm not connecting with the thread in ways that I like to
It sounds like you're forcing yourself.
I'm town if that helps any.

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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:59 pm

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That's a huge soulread Bell

You wanna be town for that? I'll let you
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:59 pm

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In post 1108, samantha97 wrote:there are already 4 hardclaims and 3 softclaims including 2 investigatives

being against massclaim at this point is senseless

but if so many people are resistant then at least everyone should behave as vanilla and never use their abilities
ok scum. Vote ur partner norwee lol
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:00 pm

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Other fleeting thoughts is that MURDERCAT is waiting for something

But i'm not sure what.

I do townread it though for completely vague and nonsensical reasons. Just seems like he really cares about how he presents his scum reads and is just checking with himself before he's ready to present them.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:01 pm

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Sorry, nora.

We're probably better off here

VOTE: DK
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:02 pm

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In post 986, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: unwnd

I think I want a little pressure here for a hot minute. unwnd I can't remember, have we played any games together before?
I don't think you responded to this, for one
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 1115, unwnd wrote:That's a huge soulread Bell

You wanna be town for that? I'll let you
We are town. So I won't betray you. :]

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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 1118, Angel Warriors wrote:Sorry, nora.

We're probably better off here

VOTE: DK
if u go thru with this ur scumclaiming
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 1119, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 986, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: unwnd

I think I want a little pressure here for a hot minute. unwnd I can't remember, have we played any games together before?
I don't think you responded to this, for one
Yeah I didn't see it

I think we maybe played a blitz together? Don't quote me on that. I'm a observant game reader though and think that if I were making an even greater assumption that you'd be town.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:04 pm

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Nah, fam. This feels nothing like the game were I was scum and you were town. You're going for easy targets, and not re-evaluating the game phase. You're strolling by and doing shit all.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:04 pm

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In post 1120, Sequence wrote:
In post 1115, unwnd wrote:That's a huge soulread Bell

You wanna be town for that? I'll let you
We are town. So I won't betray you. :]

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So what's your gut take on everything going on then. I'm having difficulty gaining from it.
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