Okay since there is presumably infer there is a town inside Titus/Math/Cakez/Ircher, although I don't really guarantee there's more than two town in there, I'll try to walk it through as best I can given a) there hasn't been mass claim yet and we don't want to give scum more than we have to and b) ircher is right that it's hard to explain without referring to the wording of your own role PM.
I think that is unnecessary now, though.
Point a: Scum would not look at the sample role PM and think that someone would be confused as whether they are town or scum.
(point a.1? I don't think Boon almost ever gives sample fakeclaims. He did specify the flavor of town but that was it and that's about all I'd expect, but this game is more "theme" ish than some of his games so we can bracket this point -- even so, he provided a sample VT PM and scum have access to the entire list of boon roles so there's no strong incentive for him to provide fakeclaims)
Point b: Alisae observed that they thought they might be scum in
79 when reading their role PM.
Point b1: Lunar had a similar-ish reaction in pre-game.
Point c: At least seven people have now observed that they either experienced confusion about their alignment, or thought confusion about alignment might be town indicative, which is basically the same thing. In this sense, we know at *least some town experienced confusion about their alignment in regard to their rolecard* and, given point a, we have no reason to think scum would have an incentive to fake doubt about their alignment in the *early game* before it was discussed.
Point d: Since scum *would not know* why Alisae experienced doubt about their alignment, scum *would not know how to explain* why they thought they might be scum or why they would sympathize with Alisae's point, and this is what Nyla observed in
314.
From this, we can infer that Alisae's slot (Koba) and Nyla have both made
strongly town indicative
posts because scum are
very unlikely to have experienced similar thought processes upon seeing the sample VT PM,
and it seems pretty likely now that
multiple
town slots experienced that sensation, making the first slots to either register that feeling or to have picked up on it are therefore much more town indicative. (This isn't the same thing as saying people who didn't pick up on it are scum since different people process information in different ways.)
As Sam observed, scum can easily say they would have been confused after the fact, especially after a claim, or a first flip, or someone discussing the point. I didn't want to go into too much detail because it's an observation that could have had continued value in regard to later claims. But these are the first slots in the thread to have registered that sensation, and Nyla finding Koba town for it is now *strongly town indicative* now that we know how many players (more than can possibly be scum) have registered that point.
Now Math when we talked in the PT was like "oh no scum can fake what Nyla said there" and I think that's just complete bullshit. Scum very, very rarely would fake a townread on a slot for confusion on their role PM if they did not understand where that confusion came from. Is it 'theoretically impossible'? No, but Koba and Nyla (and Lunar, although his posts on this point were in my PT) are both way, way more likely to be town off those two posts in and of themselves than the slots that have been pushing them this dayphase.
I don't believe anything there is too OOG. You can complain that it's like a, mech-related reaction test, but if so it's one precipitated by the mod not any players by having made confusingly worded town PMs. But ignoring the free townreads there would just be dumb.
-A
