This naked vote, I call it the "point of inflection". There's a before and after this vote and it was essential to make this whole thing happen. Everything that happened
before
this vote was enough to make clear that SpringBreeze shouldn't be welcomed to our humble community, but of course, this is mafiascum dot net, so even if someone posted their scum role PM in the main thread and said "whoops", there would be some degree of skepticism. That's why the point of inflection is so important, 'cause everything that goes after
it is what will get this wagon to destiny.Let's begin with the before!
To infinity, and beyond:
At first, I just passed through SpringBreeze's posts 'cause they seemed to be just fluff with Pooky and not much game related content. And I wasn't wrong, but because almost every single insights she was giving weren't hers, but from her teammates:
Spoiler: every post where infinity or other teammate is quoted
The great thing about using someone else's insights is that you can be easily absolved of any consequences. This is the kind of thing that is really annoying about hydras, the dissonance between what I think and what my partner thinks, so we can't be judged. SpringBreeze, at this point of the game, is unjudgable, 'cause there's nothing that is of her own.
"But Pink Ball, you didn't quote some other posts where she wasn't quoting her teammates and was talking by her own!". Well thank you, that's my next point.
Follower instead of pioneer
/ It's blank
SpringBreeze has no original insights. Not being proactive in any ways. The way she approaches the game is by throwing an empty statement that makes you believe that she's working on her reads, and follows up by using someone else's insights to position herself as the original insight was of her own/create an insight based on someone else's. There's only one post where SpringBreeze shows us what she's thinking about the game instead of her teammates, and I have decomposed it to show you what's going on:
"her deductions have been really good". Why? Why do you agree with her reads? Are they your reads now? Thank you SPF, thank you for your job, now I have my own reads, I'm townreading you because of this. Nope, doesn't work like that. This is a blank statement that positions SB like she has been sorting out things when she clearly hasn't.In post 536, Spring Breeze wrote:i really like spf so far; her deductions have been really good. unless i need to rethink, i think she's just town. agree with the noraa read and jake read.
In post 536, Spring Breeze wrote:disagree here though, cheetory's posts felt pretty out of place with gypyx's responses. feels like he was putting on a show. disagree about scum not caring enough to be understood as well, everyone wants to be understood, don't they? and scum never want to be caught out for the wrong reasons.In post 477, staypositivefriend wrote:i got the opposite impression from this exchange - it stood out to me that above all else, cheetory's primary concern was making sure that his reasoning was properly understood. i feel like people playing from a scum mindset are more likely to capitulate to people criticizing their reasoning, but cheetory's main reaction was just to get genuinely frustrated that their reasoning was being misinterperted and misframed.
this type of emotional concern over the particulars of their reasoning is town!indicative, imo. gth i don't think that scum has that level of emotional investment into having their specific reasoning validated
This is somewhat of an insight, but again, the root of the insight is something that SPF said and SB took it to get something to say. If you felt that cheet's posts felt pretty out of place, why did you wait until SPF said something about it instead of pushing it before? This is because you don't want to push anyone so hard at this stage of the game 'cause SPF doesn't want to face the consequences; remember, this is all based on the fact that SB is hiding behind someone else so she can't be judged.
She doesn't say why she doesn't like the progression, she just says it to force a reply from SirCakez; SB needs someone to provide her content to interact with, and she's baiting Cakez to give her what she wants and needs.In post 536, Spring Breeze wrote:not liking this progressionIn post 503, SirCakez wrote:On reread they don't look as bad but they look fakeable in light of the bad entranceIn post 496, staypositivefriend wrote:in what way?In post 495, SirCakez wrote:Spring breeze's posting is still pretty scummy
you must've read my posts and something must've pinged you for you to say this. what happened to that? and i'm curious what you think is bad about my opening posts in your own words
So cheet asks SB directly for a read, and her reply is... wait, is this a trend? Is she saying something like it is a well known fact with no explanation whatsoever ("their line on me was the worst thing they posted"), gives nothing ("nullish") and then waits for more content to rely on?In post 536, Spring Breeze wrote:their line on me was the worst thing they posted, but other than that, nullish. i'm curious to see how they'll respond!
Pocketing Pooky with playful posting
The very first interaction with the thread is going to the so called mason soulread. Now to be fair, the one who started this was Pooky, but it's not about who started it, but how SB posts towards Pooky say a lot about what she's trying to accomplish: making Pooky feel like he has to townread her.
Spoiler: 2Pooky2Furious
These are both posts I'm referring to, but mainly on this two particular quotes:
In post 57, Spring Breeze wrote:i sincerely hope you are town with me <3
In both quotes, the way she's choosing to interact with Pooky can be depicted as Pooky will have to prove his town status to her so she can trust her. This is a subtle manipulation towards Pooky, 'cause it starts from the basis that SB is town. In other words, "YOU have to prove ME that you're town in order to make this romance work". A town mindset would be much more oriented on just being playful like Pooky was, not mixing it up with how you read me or how I read you. She wants to be townread by Pooky, she's looking for something out of this interaction, it's not fluff for her, it's getting an ally.In post 449, Spring Breeze wrote: are you good mister bear? my teammate says you had "empty posting at the start of d1 which is rand>scum." i hope from the bottom of my heart that isn't true @_@
So we have three distinctive things that make SB scum: she's making herself unjudgable, she has no stances/insights of her own and she's trying to pocket an adorable bear.
What next?
You know, the point of inflection. The naked vote. The lack of explanation. The paranoia. What's worse than being scumread as scum? Being scumread and not knowing why. You convince yourself that you're doing something wrong, but you don't know why. You have based your game on not being judged, yet someone is doing it. You have no real insights to give and the guy who's scumreading you isn't giving you his own insights to reply to. What will you do, SpringBreeze?
Your beloved Pink Ball didn't know the answer. I won't act like I did, I was curious of what was going to happen. I expected a lot of things and nothing at the same time. But one thing was sure: things would change for SpringBreeze from this point, 'cause if I was so sure about her being scum, she must have been doing that was pinging me and she had to do something about it.
*15 minutes coffee break*
And she did, she did a lot. She started giving us her own insights finally, and now SpringBreeze has become someone judgable, and that's what we do now, we judge her.
There are a couple of progressions that I don't believe are genuine: cheetory's and Zaiden's. Both have something in common: they started as big scumreads that, after some thoughts, became her strongest townreads. She reconsidered cheetory because she likes "his good faith to her". To me, it looks like the key of this is in the word "reconsider". SpringBreeze is not really reconsidering anything, she only wants to say that she's reconsidering someone 'cause reconsidering is something that only town does. She took the first thing that could be used as "worthy to reconsider", but "good faith" is something really weak to something so powerful like reconsidering. Realizing you're wrong about something is not an easy task and it will take something really evident to make you change your mind like that. In other words, she changed her mind about cheet too quickly, for the sake of having a town trait.
Zaiden, on the other hand, became a pretty hard push after his frustration post (you know the one I'm talking about), so SpringBreeze had no other choice, she had to stop pushing him 'cause it would take her nowhere. First reaction of everyone was townread that post, so she townreads the post. But wait, what happens later? In her readlist, Zaiden has now become a townlean/null, because she thinks she's putting too much stock into the emotional read. Pretty convenient that SPF and me had a conversation like 30 posts ago about how Zaiden's frustration could come from scum too, right? What we last knew about SB's read on Zaiden is that she's "pretty happy to call him town" after reading his posts in detail, 'cause there's "a lot of genuine solving there" (post #1233). SB is evidently opening her options for the future, in case a wagon on Zaiden's builds up. By the way, SB's vote was still on Zaiden on post #1233, where she was calling Zaiden town. But of course, where would her vote go? That leads us to our next section.
The new indie pop/rock band, Avoiding Wagons
SpringBreeze's early game could be perfectly be defined as fencesitting, 'cause as you can remember from the first section of this post, she had no stances of her own. Well, even with more content on her bag, the fencesitting continued. Let's take a look on Votecounts 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8:
Spoiler: I'm getting tired not gonna lie
There's a story behind this progression of votes. In 1.6, we see that now there's a wagon building on Noraa. SpringBreeze showed concern after Murder's vote 'cause infinity thinks Noraa is towny (hello again, infinity), and because
Jingle's case was pretty bad
. SpringBreeze's vote is still on Zaiden tho. In 1.7, we see now that Maria, the powerhouse, has joined Noraa and voted Jingle. After this votecount, SpringBreeze defended her townread on Noraa 'cause Noraa wasn't having it. SB thinks that Noraa looks bad because the more scumread she gets, the more she digs into a contradictory hole, and then says "I don't know who's the scum pushing her 'cause I see town pushing her too"; basically, SpringBreeze is showing indecision on who she should vote (even when any vote would make more sense than her vote on her townread, Zaiden). In 1.8, however, we see that SpringBreeze finally came to terms and voted Jingle. What's her thoughts behind that vote?
You guessed it: nothing. She said it before, Jingle's case was pretty bad. She said it way before this blank vote came in. She waited and waited until voting Jingle was safe. She could have started the wagon on Jingle, but she didn't, 'cause that would put her in a bad spot. And it is based on a townread on Noraa that is not even hers:
So we come back to our starting point: SpringBreeze keeps making herself unjudgable hiding behind her teammates/other players' back, and her vote on Jingle has no insight at all other than "the case was bad".In post 1234, Spring Breeze wrote:- infinity says she's townIn post 1216, Pink Ball wrote:Could you show us how exactly the conversation with your team wrt to Noraa was?In post 1214, Spring Breeze wrote:not sure what you want me to reply to? my teammates think you're town and after discussing with them, i agreed. i just read your catch up though and i had an epiphany that you're town by myself. i really see what infinity means by the spew whatever even if it looks bad = town!noraa nowIn post 1061, Noraa wrote:Kanna just sucks at reading me generally so I'm weirded out that she's right but I'm waiting on her reply to that atm.
i wouldn't say the "kanna can't read me" thing is accurate as well, i can point out to why i ended up reading you wrong in every one of those games and i think they were just unfortunate
- ydrasse pops in at some point to read noraa
- i express that in thread
- infinity says no, you don't understand how much i townread noraa
- i ask him for reasons
- he points me to the reasons and i elaborate in 979
The Last Dance
And this is the signal I was waiting for making this huge ass post:
She realized what was wrong about herself and tried to change it as if nothing happened before. Fresh start, this is real, this is me, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. Well let me tell you something, Demi Lovato, you SUCK. Wait I lost track. Oh yeah, the readlist: I can nitpick some particular reads that pretty much confirms everything I have said until now, but the ones that resonated the most to me were, again, the one where she now has Zaiden as townlean/null; and her read on yours trully:In post 1622, Spring Breeze wrote:it's true i don't think i've been super on ball with the game so i combed back through and i think these takes are a lot truer to my heart.
I invite everyone in this thread to read a quarter of my ISO and tell me if you agree with miss SpringBreeze. This is, and I can't stress this enough, a preemptive discredit, ladies and gentleman. I, Pink Ball, have no content. Nothing, just questions, no actual insights on the game.In post 1622, Spring Breeze wrote: - pink ball, i'm pretty self conscious that i'm an attractive push for scum, but i don't think i can in good faith call that a scum push. otherwise content is a lot of asking questions and short comments which is pretty null.
I wanna thank the acad- ok enough it's late.
VOTE: SpringBreeze[/quote]
