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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:36 pm

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CF Riot wrote:That out of the way, SC you are vote hopping a lot.
I am aware that I'm doing something along those lines, and that tends to happen when I'm not reasonably sure of scum.

I do like your post, BTW.

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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:58 pm

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Think to yourself. When did I say I suspected you?
How many people were voting with me when I started pushing your lynch? If I was pushing an easy lynch, there are much easier alternatives.
Now, when did you begin to suspect me? Who are your other top suspects? Give me one reason you have for voting me that has nothing to do with you, and I won't say OMGUS.


Hmmm... the bolded part...sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it...

If FS flips town, I'm going to be severely peeved that I went through all this trouble now.


Peeved, and hugely under suspicion...

OK.. No matter what I say, anywhere.. it will be considered OMGUS...

Because Im attacking a player(s), who has/have votes on me...

The fact, as Ive already stated, is that I do not find the others as scummy as you... Nor do you consider those same players scummier than me...


BTW, it would help why you consider posts scummy, rather than linking to them, again, I'd like to re-iterate, that were not telepathic CFR... Linking to posts DOES NOT constitute a case imo..

My case on you right now is in 1426 & 1427...



@ SC.. what info on me do you have...
OMGUS
???
And your last post makes no sense at all... You say your unsure of who's scum, yet you change your vote to me at the drop of a hat, or at CFR's will....
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:01 pm

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EBWOP >>>>


* 1426 & 1447
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:29 pm

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Firestarter wrote:@ SC.. what info on me do you have...
OMGUS
???
What are your cases on the people you suspect?
Firestarter wrote:And your last post makes no sense at all... You say your unsure of who's scum, yet you change your vote to me at the drop of a hat, or at CFR's will....
It's a defense to my vote-hopping. Multiple people have been fighting over my attention over the course of Day 2.0.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:19 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Firestarter wrote:@ SC.. what info on me do you have...
OMGUS
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What are your cases on the people you suspect?
If you look hard enough, you can find an answer to that question in my previous post...

Now, answer my question please..
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:32 am

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That kind of was a response since you asked if I accused you of OMGUS and I asked you to prove to me otherwise.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:41 am

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Riot wrote:Give me one reason you have for voting me that has nothing to do with you, and I won't say OMGUS.
Firestarter wrote:OK.. No matter what I say, anywhere.. it will be considered OMGUS...
This is fail. You can't give a reason because you don't have one.
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Riot wrote:How many people were voting with me when I started pushing your lynch? If I was pushing an easy lynch, there are much easier alternatives.
Hmmm... the bolded part...sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it...
Explain.
Firestarter wrote:The fact, as Ive already stated, is that I do not find the others as scummy as you... Nor do you consider those same players scummier than me...
But you have no reason to find me scummy at all. What is the point of the second sentence?
Firestarter wrote:BTW, it would help
[if you explained]
why you consider posts scummy, rather than linking to them.
They are in the posts I linked of my responses. The way you switched your vote from armlx to K7 right after posting a case against arm is scummy because you abandon it for no reason and then try not to respond to his case against you. The way you hopped from K7 to Corin when momentum was changing between them was scummy too.
Firestarter wrote:My case on you right now is in 1426 & 1447...
Then you have no case. 26 is just saying you think I'm busing KoC (alignment yet unknown) because I posted a case on him but am voting you. Not a scum tell. 47, all you are saying there is I'm pushing your lynch without a good reason so I'm scum. That is the definition of OMGUS, and I already gave you my reasons for voting you.
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:06 am

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@CFR - Out of curiosity, what are your views on OP?
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:40 am

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CF Riot wrote:
Riot wrote:Give me one reason you have for voting me that has nothing to do with you, and I won't say OMGUS.
Firestarter wrote:OK.. No matter what I say, anywhere.. it will be considered OMGUS...
This is fail. You can't give a reason because you don't have one.
Ive given reasons, and they've been considered OMGUS... so its far from fail, because the only crap reasons anyone has on me is OMGUS....

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Riot wrote:How many people were voting with me when I started pushing your lynch? If I was pushing an easy lynch, there are much easier alternatives.
Hmmm... the bolded part...sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it...
Explain.
Do I really need to? Ok, Ill simplifiy it for you...
How many people are voting you?
Wouldn't it be easier for me to vote KoC right now, considering how many people are at the moment?
Yet you dont see anything familiar?

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Firestarter wrote:The fact, as Ive already stated, is that I do not find the others as scummy as you... Nor do you consider those same players scummier than me...
But you have no reason to find me scummy at all. What is the point of the second sentence?
Well, who else are you looking at???
KoC, Sc to a degree???
More or less the same Los as me...

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Firestarter wrote:BTW, it would help
[if you explained]
why you consider posts scummy, rather than linking to them.
They are in the posts I linked of my responses. The way you switched your vote from armlx to K7 right after posting a case against arm is scummy because you abandon it for no reason and then try not to respond to his case against you. The way you hopped from K7 to Corin when momentum was changing between them was scummy too.
Way to go.... did I actually do anything different from what Ive been doing all game when voting Corin??? I would have backed either a K7 or Corin lynch at that time, it turned out to be Corin..
And it wasn't just a case of hopping from one to the other... the K7 lynch was going nowhere, and I believe there was a deadline, was there not?? I simply used my vote on one of 2 I wanted lynched at that time, as I stated in posts before the lynch...
As for you, your non-commital to anyone at that time is far more noteworthy...
You even said yourself that you would not place a vote at that time because it
"would leave you at a disadvantage
"...

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Firestarter wrote:My case on you right now is in 1426 & 1447...
Then you have no case. 26 is just saying you think I'm busing KoC (alignment yet unknown) because I posted a case on him but am voting you. Not a scum tell. 47, all you are saying there is I'm pushing your lynch without a good reason so I'm scum. That is the definition of OMGUS, and I already gave you my reasons for voting you.
So, me saying that you are bussing Koc, and believing that you are voting me for no other reason than a hunch (see previous CFR posts - Ill find it if anyone wants me to) is not a case????

Its far stronger than your case on me...
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:11 am

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Strangercoug requires more votes. I really don't see how any of our leading candidates are better choices for lynch than him.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:52 am

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Care to elaborate TSN?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:56 am

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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:50 am

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TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Strangercoug requires more votes. I really don't see how any of our leading candidates are better choices for lynch than him.
Don't really see how SC is that scummy.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:01 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:@CFR - Out of curiosity, what are your views on OP?
I hardly notice him in this game. Before I scrolled up I couldn't even remember who he was voting for. His last post makes him seem sort of buddy-buddy with SC.

FS I'm about done arguing with you. I've proven I have more than a hunch on you. It's supra weak to use bussing KoC as a tell because you don't know if KoC is scum or not. Me staying off the Corin/K7 duel will only be scummy if K7 is proven scum. Your logic is so screwed it is hard to explain why it is wrong.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:09 am

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CF Riot wrote:FS I'm about done arguing with you. I've proven I have more than a hunch on you. It's supra weak to use bussing KoC as a tell
because you don't know if KoC is scum or not.
Me staying off the Corin/K7 duel will only be scummy if K7 is proven scum. Your logic is so screwed it is hard to explain why it is wrong.
@ the bolded part...


You seem pretty darn sure I dont know if KoC is scum or not...

Slip up much?
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:57 am

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:roll:

Misrep more and more, and even only into a slip attack.

I keep forgetting why I was voting FS, and now I remember...
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:04 pm

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armlx wrote:I keep forgetting why I was voting FS, and now I remember...
But you arent voting remember, meta made you unvote
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:09 pm

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But you arent voting remember, meta made you unvote
Notice the "was". That said, the meta has only made him go down the list, not disappear.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:15 pm

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armlx wrote: Care to elaborate TSN?
Sure, although I have to admit, every time firestarter posts, he makes me twitch, so maybe he's not as bad a candidate as I first thought.

Anyway, strangercoug: His first vote, he wagons killa seven. His second vote, he wagons corinthian. (His) Post 22, he says he thinks both k7 and corinthian are scum, and starts pushing the town to lynch either one. He's not exactly picking hard targets to go after, and he's pushing for a lynch. Over the course of the day, he jumps between the two once more, before settling on corinthian (town) lynch.

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To sum up, he hasn't voted for a single player that didn't already have a developed wagon, weird vote-then-unvote thing with llamafluff excepted.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:12 pm

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armlx wrote:
But you arent voting remember, meta made you unvote
Notice the "was". That said, the meta has only made him go down the list, not disappear.
So, who's top of your list now?
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:20 pm

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So, who's top of your list now?
Actually, still you, though its now considerable to switch to FL or KoC.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:32 pm

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Spyre, explain at your convenience. I won't know my answer until I hear the question but it sounds fun. One question first though. Are you scum?
Nope, sure not scum. But, I'll try to explain my thought process behind it (as clear as I can).

At this point, partially because of the crazy vote swapping, I'm pretty convinced you're town. Also, for most of the game, I've been pretty convinced Arm is town. It'd be hard to get me to vote for either of you already - so this is just a formalization of that

We've got, I think, three people we all suspect: FS, FL, Koc. (And I do K7, but I digress). Regardless of the order or what, its safe to say we're going to be pushing heavily on those three and instead of being cross-working on lynches as a unit well, helps.

Also, there's the numbers game. With 13 of us left now, if we had all our suspects lynched (and still hadn't won) we'd be at 9 (three and one night kill). With the three of us still alive at that point, assuming not a total shift against us it would only take 2 others agreeing with us to move ahead.

Also, it really is a put the mafia on their toes kinda maneuver; we don't know each others alignments, so do you leave us alive to question each other (worrying about a voting block that can get them lynched easy) or do you kill us (which really gives the other town a chance to process how things are going).

Really, the only way I could see it totally backfiring is if 2 of the three of us were scum (which is very, very highly unlikely) - otherwise, even if one is they can't get "cred" for bussing a partner AND they can't really protect them. All in all, I'm for it. I see a lot of upside without a lot of downside.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:56 pm

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I really don't like things that distance people from their votes.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:10 pm

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CF Riot wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:@CFR - Out of curiosity, what are your views on OP?
I hardly notice him in this game. Before I scrolled up I couldn't even remember who he was voting for. His last post makes him seem sort of buddy-buddy with SC.
I wasn't really buddying up with him. I just don't really see the case on SC, and if you played with him before, you'll see what I mean. Then again, it's been pages since the case on him appeared, so I probably forgot some details of it. But I think KoC or FS are the best choices for today. Or perhaps K7, but that's going nowhere.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:15 am

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I really don't like things that distance people from their votes.
Fair enough. Figured it was worth a shot - I still think it would have broke this wide open. ;)
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