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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:38 am

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In post 1390, Iconeum wrote:Nancy, this is the core of my spam. You can ignore the rest. But please try to adress this.

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In post 1372, Iconeum wrote:Nancy, early game you said you know my play and will at least listen to me because i tend to have good reads (and if you townread me)

after the early game, you never really engaged with me over my reads

when I made my first akarin-mini case, you ignored it. Then I called you out to share your thoughts with me over it. I did not strongarm you into anything. I politely asked you to JUST give your thoughts about it:
In post 1373, Iconeum wrote:
In post 777, Iconeum wrote:fancy commenting on my Akarin mini-case?
this is literally all i ask of you

how is this 'strongarming you to vote akarin'?

honestly?
In post 1374, Iconeum wrote:now take that into context with your earlier statement about ' listening to my reads'

then add your reply 'oh there's not enough from akarin to make a call there', dismissing my case entirely without a single word on it's content

a while later, when others vote akarin you hop on and use something from BEFORE my case on her, to justify a vote there. That means you don't give a fuck about my read or case. It completely nullifies your early game statement about me, which led me to believe it was fake.

THAT IS THE REASON I VOTED YOU
In post 1375, Iconeum wrote:because it felt like a pocket attempt towards me

i pushed you to get a read and see where it went

and then you went full rampage on me, misrepping me basicly every step of the way
In post 1397, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is such an unproductive conversation.
Ico can you break down what this is about.
i mean...
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:02 am

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In post 1341, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 884, zoraster wrote:I asked him to read TGP, and Ceph thinks it's possible TGP is scum, but is confused at why he's a popular target. Also as scum it'd be weird to go after Nancy because she'll definitely OMGUS you. Not the wagon I'd go for today, and it's practically the same wagon as the one that was on me (Flavor, BBmolla, Nancy, NEE). The only difference is Mistyx being on it and shea avoiding it despite really going after TGP (and obviously TGP not being on it). Kind of just reinforces to me that assuming there were a couple of scum on my wagon that it's not TGP.

Let's talk about interactions between common people on these wagons.

NEE about Flavor: Opening post is a vote for FL, says that FL vote is town. Directly talks to FL once. Gets asked a question directly by FL and responds with a scum game. Once more recently but just about how the game isn't chaotic.
Flavor about NEE: Quite a few. Asks NEE about his reads. There's a short back and forth previously mentioned here.

These two don't seem to be likely to be both scum, though I admit Flavor seems like the type of person who is good at interacting with his scummates.

NEE about BBMolla: basically agrees with BBM saying he's content with the Ram vote. Claims he'd support a BBM wagon if not for the wagon on me... then joins the TGP vote (justified later by then saying that TGP is the scummy one and bbmolla is "slightly scummy")
BBM about NEE: Votes for NEE in a jokingly way then goes back to the Pine project he assigned himself. No further interactions.

If one of these two are scum I could definitely see the other being scum. NEE could be halfheartedly distancing from BBM. That said, BBM doesn't have many interactions with anyone so have to adjust on that basis.

NEE about Nancy: His iso is FULL of interaction with Nancy.
Nancy about NEE: Likewise here.

Are NEE and Nancy otherwise good friends? Because assuming not, it seems unlikely to me that these two are together.

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BBM about Flavor: Gets asked a direct question by FL and answers it quickly. Says he's "unconcerned with sorting FL today."
Flavor about BBM: Spends some time calling BBM "obviously town." Other than the direct question to BBM has no interaction with him until BBM says that he's unconcerned with FL.

Definitely a possible pairing, though again part of this is BBM has fewer interactions overall so it seems less determinative.

BBM about Nancy: recently called Nancy town. Otherwise nothing.
Nancy about BBM: Agrees with the Pine vote by BBM. Calls into question BBM's Pine vote later. Answers a question about Ramcius.

Nancy's posts to BBM seem pretty organic at least.

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Nancy about Flavor: Similar to NEE, Nancy has oodles of interactions.
Flavor about Nancy: Similar.

Again, I think Nancy and Flavor are probably two people who would interact a lot with their scum partners, but I have no reason to believe that they're both scum aligned.

Eliminating Flavor and him turning scum would point me toward BBM but probably not NorwegianboyEE. My town read of Nancy aside, I feel like the two of them are probably well suited to playing off each other as scum.

Eliminating BBM doesn't really do much for this type of analysis, unfortunately as he could be a potential partner to basically anyone on that list.


NEE and Nancy aren't really two people I'm excited to see go today outside of this.
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Why do you like this post?
It’s so pointless to me.
Huge wall that concludes 1+1=2 essentially.
Why use thus much effort for this? Why type it at all? It really just reads to me as an attempt to impress. LAMIST.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:07 am

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I agree with Norwee. Imagine taking that many words to defend two slots that were under zero pressure while giving us nothing about who IS scum. I also don't understand the point of doing interaction analysis in a game that doesn't have flips, and, shockingly, we got no actionable information from that analysis, because, again shockingly, its all conjecture without flips.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:51 am

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In post 1383, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 1.21

zoraster(4)
~ (188), (179), (69), (79)

Akarin(3)
~ (60), (24), (26)
BBMolla(2)
~ (43), (23)
TheGoldenParadox(1)
~ (277)
Ramcius(1)
~ (20)
Pine(1)
~ (164)


Not Voting (1): (203)


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VOTE: Zoraster

E-2 right?
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:24 am

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I'm sort of getting cold feet in terms that I don't think Zor/Ak are both scum and I'm not super confident it's Zor

Every time I type up the post to switch my vote to Ak I delete it so I guess I'll stay here
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:32 am

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I agree with status agreeing with Norwe, but I've already talked about that
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:46 am

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For what it's worth, I did not read Ico vs Nancy
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:47 am

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In post 1406, Flavor Leaf wrote:For what it's worth, I did not read Ico vs Nancy
Amen to that.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 1406, Flavor Leaf wrote:For what it's worth, I did not read Ico vs Nancy
i've skimmed parts of it and decided they were both town and then stopped
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:09 am

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I think actually both of them are being batshit insane tbh. I don't either of them is as aggressively pushing or misrepping the other as much as they claim. It's a really interesting dynamic actually but I don't think I can solve it unless one of them flips at some point.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:10 am

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Like honestly if you put a gun to my head and asked me what that interaction was I'd probably say SvS the way neither of them was giving the other any credence or even attempting a good faith interaction.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:10 am

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Looked a lot like theatre. Sometime to file away for later if either of them ever flips red.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:11 am

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really.

gun to your head you scream out they're SvS.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 1411, Thestatusquo wrote:Looked a lot like theatre. Sometime to file away for later if either of them ever flips red.

im not saying it's impossible, but it's just funny.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:02 am

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I'm saying it doesn't make a lot of sense in any direction, and usually when there's huge screaming arguments in thread where neither side makes much sense to me the first thing I think is scum theatre.

Fwiw Keely thinks Nancy being unwilling/unable to parse someone's logic seems NAI, so that's worth noting as well.
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:07 am

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Prodding TheGoldenParadox.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:17 am

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In post 1403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1383, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 1.21

zoraster(4)
~ (188), (179), (69), (79)

Akarin(3)
~ (60), (24), (26)
BBMolla(2)
~ (43), (23)
TheGoldenParadox(1)
~ (277)
Ramcius(1)
~ (20)
Pine(1)
~ (164)


Not Voting (1): (203)


With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)


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VOTE: Zoraster

E-2 right?
Just...ugh. No, Nancy. Stop listening to them. You actually are better than that.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:30 am

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I guess we just full send one of Zoraster or Akarin.

I'm a little biased towards Zoraster.
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:50 am

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In post 1416, Pine wrote:
In post 1403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1383, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 1.21

zoraster(4)
~ (188), (179), (69), (79)

Akarin(3)
~ (60), (24), (26)
BBMolla(2)
~ (43), (23)
TheGoldenParadox(1)
~ (277)
Ramcius(1)
~ (20)
Pine(1)
~ (164)


Not Voting (1): (203)


With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)


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VOTE: Zoraster

E-2 right?
Just...ugh. No, Nancy. Stop listening to them. You actually are better than that.
In post 1417, Flavor Leaf wrote:I guess we just full send one of Zoraster or Akarin.

I'm a little biased towards Zoraster.
I recognize that there's no way I can read FL well, but i'm still noting that my gut screams he's town. The progression he's made this game, the way he's framed his points - it's quite towny.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:51 am

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In post 1410, Thestatusquo wrote:Like honestly if you put a gun to my head and asked me what that interaction was I'd probably say SvS the way neither of them was giving the other any credence or even attempting a good faith interaction.
ico vs nancy?? i'd love to hear more on why you think that's scum theatre, that's not the impression i received at all.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:54 am

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If you neighborize me, I'll pocket you.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:55 am

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In post 1416, Pine wrote:
In post 1403, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1383, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 1.21

zoraster(4)
~ (188), (179), (69), (79)

Akarin(3)
~ (60), (24), (26)
BBMolla(2)
~ (43), (23)
TheGoldenParadox(1)
~ (277)
Ramcius(1)
~ (20)
Pine(1)
~ (164)


Not Voting (1): (203)


With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)


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VOTE: Zoraster

E-2 right?
Just...ugh. No, Nancy. Stop listening to them. You actually are better than that.
I happen to know for a fact that Akarin has been having IRI so need to hear more from her but why are you so convinced this is a worse option?

I remembered a similar kind of post coming from scum in an FG game I was in.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:56 am

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In post 1420, Flavor Leaf wrote:If you neighborize me, I'll pocket you.

probably shouldn't neighborize me
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:01 pm

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In post 1414, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm saying it doesn't make a lot of sense in any direction, and usually when there's huge screaming arguments in thread where neither side makes much sense to me the first thing I think is scum theatre.

Fwiw Keely thinks Nancy being unwilling/unable to parse someone's logic seems NAI, so that's worth noting as well.
Why is it always when someone decides to push me for a prolonged period of time, does it always get read as SvS? Like I’m not a masochist. I’ve been trying to avoid this thread because I’m beyond fucking sick of it.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 1419, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 1410, Thestatusquo wrote:Like honestly if you put a gun to my head and asked me what that interaction was I'd probably say SvS the way neither of them was giving the other any credence or even attempting a good faith interaction.
ico vs nancy?? i'd love to hear more on why you think that's scum theatre, that's not the impression i received at all.
Are you reading me correctly yet or not?
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