TM 2021 - Black Flag Nightless

lilith2013 · Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:01 am

this is honestly fucking wild

MathBlade · Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:02 am

In post 3669, Shirou wrote:
In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:B) They are a naturally tunnelly player similar to me and once they get a read they get it and have to be sold otherwise and will do this as any alignment.
I'm a notorious tunneler if it helps anyone read on me

look no further than the last team mafia, where I tunneled the same players for amazing 3 in-game days or so.

I don’t remember all of the games from last team mafia. I just remember the one I modded and the mod headaches we had sorry. I generally work from meta I know and from what I have since you’re playing with me. Nancy and oka were really insistent on that though and since I haven’t read that stuff I went with what they were saying since it’s a team game

Pedit: no I am saying that ABr would have told Firebringer to not touch my posts and Shirou did the same.

Menalque · Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:03 am

It is still very funny that you think that Shirou would listen to ABR on how to play scum

lilith2013 · Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:03 am

I see, apologies for misinterpreting

my opinion of ABR’s scumgame is lower than my opinion of fb’s scumgame and according to mena shirou’s scumgame probably blows both of theirs out of the water

MathBlade · Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:03 am

Apologies I did not think about how that sounded. My bad. No I would never accuse another player of cheating.

I do not know who Shirou is and nor do I want to know. I treat them by their game here

Just I have an extreme dislike of ABR for personal reasons

Shirou · Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:04 am

In post 3674, Menalque wrote:
In post 3672, lilith2013 wrote:okay abr is permabanned

I’m pretty sure it’s against the rules to communicate about these games outside of your MS-ordained PT and discord server

So you’re just.... casually accusing shirou and team of breaking rules by conversing with a permabanned user to get ahead in a game?
I think he means that ABR left instructions in their discord or PT for Shirou to do that

Which is ridiculous, obviously, given that ABR was a profoundly average scumplayer while Shirou is one of the absolute best on site

Mena you overestimate me...but thanks

Either way to this discussion, I actually had no contact with ABR, I only came to replace-in here while talking to Norwe in discord about anime.

lilith2013 · Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:04 am

no worries, I think we all do (or should/would given enough interaction). although this is probably getting off topic now

MathBlade · Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:05 am

In post 3677, Menalque wrote:It is still very funny that you think that Shirou would listen to ABR on how to play scum

*shrug* Glad to provide humor for being offsite a year+ I guess?

Pedit: good on the no contact. I advise it stay that way.

Shirou · Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:05 am

In post 3679, MathBlade wrote:Apologies I did not think about how that sounded. My bad. No I would never accuse another player of cheating.

It's fine, I don't really mind speculations, but yeah you can rule out that possibility.

Menalque · Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:05 am

In post 3680, Shirou wrote:Mena you overestimate me...but thanks

I don’t think so, there’s few enough players that completely snowed (not just fooled but completely

snowed

) RC when he was playing and you did so in a p spectacular fashion

Menalque · Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:06 am

In post 3682, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3677, Menalque wrote:It is still very funny that you think that Shirou would listen to ABR on how to play scum
*shrug* Glad to provide humor for being offsite a year+ I guess?

Pedit: good on the no contact. I advise it stay that way.

Oh, tbf Shirou is an alt so I guess you might not be aware of their identity

Menalque · Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:07 am

That’s sad, it makes those posts less funny

MathBlade · Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:07 am

Hey on a scale of 1 to 10 how good is Shirou’s scum play
1 being conf guilty
10 being my scum game
(I consider myself excellent scum shit town)

Multiple people are saying this in thread and I kinda wanna see just how good compared to me and then compare that to reads of me

Normally I wouldn’t but this seems relevant

lilith2013 · Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:07 am

In post 3684, Menalque wrote:
In post 3680, Shirou wrote:Mena you overestimate me...but thanks
I don’t think so, there’s few enough players that completely snowed (not just fooled but completely
snowed
) RC when he was playing and you did so in a p spectacular fashion

this sounds like a juicy story

MathBlade · Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 am

In post 3685, Menalque wrote:
In post 3682, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3677, Menalque wrote:It is still very funny that you think that Shirou would listen to ABR on how to play scum
*shrug* Glad to provide humor for being offsite a year+ I guess?

Pedit: good on the no contact. I advise it stay that way.
Oh, tbf Shirou is an alt so I guess you might not be aware of their identity

I don’t alt hunt so that’s a thing. So I am not aware of them or other players as tunnelly as myself which seems to be at first glance the level of tunnel Shirou has

Menalque · Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 am

In post 3687, MathBlade wrote:Hey on a scale of 1 to 10 how good is Shirou’s scum play
1 being conf guilty
10 being my scum game
(I consider myself excellent scum shit town)

Multiple people are saying this in thread and I kinda wanna see just how good compared to me and then compare that to reads of me

Normally I wouldn’t but this seems relevant

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Menalque · Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:09 am

In post 3688, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 3684, Menalque wrote:
In post 3680, Shirou wrote:Mena you overestimate me...but thanks
I don’t think so, there’s few enough players that completely snowed (not just fooled but completely
snowed
) RC when he was playing and you did so in a p spectacular fashion
this sounds like a juicy story

They’re announced as being Fumuki and I know that they don’t generally care about being ID’d but I’d rather they confirm that they don’t mind me saying who they are here before doing so/specifying where that happened

MathBlade · Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:10 am

And would scum!Shirou consider me a threat and want me gone early and therefore use the current game state to do that?

Menalque · Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:11 am

Again, while I think Shirou is town this game they’re easily top 5 scum players on site (that I know of/have seen first hand) and I think probably top 3 in terms of active players

And they play significantly less than the other names in that group

Menalque · Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:11 am

In post 3692, MathBlade wrote:And would scum!Shirou consider me a threat and want me gone early and therefore use the current game state to do that?

I doubt it, I don’t think scum!shirou would consider anyone a threat here really

Shirou · Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:11 am

I know this is approaching grey area, but as a sidenote, although I think it may be NAI, if I had to place between "Towny" vs "Scummy" to Math doing weird speculations, I would put it under scummy.

In a Mastina's modded large (I forgot the name but it had to do with Wolves), Math was scum that always speculated weird things which were objectively very hard to realistically take place. In the last days if I remember right his speculation was as weird as speculating wheter vampires were considered supernatural or not, or something similar.

I just remember it was strikingly weird assumptions that at the time I did doubt anyone would genuinely make.

I think that due to this one having different circumstances, it may not apply, especially also given it's been 2 years since that game, but still I would like to point that out?

chennisden · Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:12 am

In post 3674, Menalque wrote:
In post 3672, lilith2013 wrote:okay abr is permabanned

I’m pretty sure it’s against the rules to communicate about these games outside of your MS-ordained PT and discord server

So you’re just.... casually accusing shirou and team of breaking rules by conversing with a permabanned user to get ahead in a game?
I think he means that ABR left instructions in their discord or PT for Shirou to do that

Which is ridiculous, obviously, given that ABR was a profoundly average scumplayer while Shirou is one of the absolute best on site

According to my team Discord, average is a profoundly generous descriptor.

Menalque · Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:13 am

In post 3696, chennisden wrote:
In post 3674, Menalque wrote:
In post 3672, lilith2013 wrote:okay abr is permabanned

I’m pretty sure it’s against the rules to communicate about these games outside of your MS-ordained PT and discord server

So you’re just.... casually accusing shirou and team of breaking rules by conversing with a permabanned user to get ahead in a game?
I think he means that ABR left instructions in their discord or PT for Shirou to do that

Which is ridiculous, obviously, given that ABR was a profoundly average scumplayer while Shirou is one of the absolute best on site
According to my team Discord, average is a profoundly generous descriptor.

Fair point

lilith2013 · Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:13 am

MathBlade · Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:14 am

And why do you say that Scum!Shiro wouldn’t consider anyone a threat here?

A good scum identifies the biggest risk to them winning them game and tries to eliminate them ASAP.

I am an known/unknown player presenting an optimal strategy the majority of players have hopped on to.

Why would I not be a threat if this methodology continues and Shirou is forced to that?