I'm not going to be around for a few days (like 3ish) - sorry I've been occupied but I promise by the end of this phase everyone will want me to shut up again.
if anyone wants anything I'll be here for a bit
pedit: the fuck is that noise? is it like the wind or something?
coming into the game I was trying to keep an eye out for people who were quick to try and recreate the "vibes" of last game but either felt like they were forcing it or just felt distinctly different from last game in how they went about it. Very start of this game has ythan, hopkirk, okapoka, hercule, and IV talking the most. There's no actual content here but it's the type of memey early back and forth that creates (dare I say) good vibes between people and that scum wouldn't hate to establish a foothold in (like hercule had so pointedly done at the very beginning of last game).
off the bat I do agree that hercule feels different this game. He's less shy about directly interacting with people so far and I vaguely liked that he was the one that took the initiative on the meme xtoxm wagon. I don't think his change in approach or tone are things that he wouldn't necessarily be able to do as scum, and I think watching to see if he's able to keep this same type of energy up over a longer period of time will be most indicative for him, but for now I'm comfortable putting him slightly above everyone else.
ythan was who I originally landed on as feeling somewhat suspicious out of the starting meme/vibe/hangout group. just a purely gut reaction but he felt more on the outside looking in and #83 in particular just felt like kind of a forced way to match his energy to the thread. Reading back now though, I don't really see his posting so much as trying to cement himself within the vibes (whatever the hell that actually means) as just poking around rather nonchalantly. He doesn't post that much and doesn't seem particularly desperate to be "in the vibes" which is my new term for people trying to get themselves in the early meme town block I guess?
I actually do lean town on Hopkirk. I won't go into details but I was having a terrible day at work so I think it's at least a little town indicative that Hopkirk and Hectic were sensitive to me feeling a little more dour than usual today? At least, I feel like it should be town indicative. I'm not really giving the same points to Mastina given she came in after Hopkirk and her approach feels a little less curious/thoughtful than Hopkirk's wtr to my slot. although I don't scum read her.
innocent villager I ended up switching my vote to after just one too many posts that I felt were... a little forced? Like to me, the "hahaha I'm scum no I'm not let's be silly guys" stuff was fun for the first few pages but IV seemed intent on continuing it for just a bit longer. It just felt like it crossed the line of someone trying too hard to continue the vibing shit posts while also making it 100% explicit that "I'm just shit posting guys." I dunno, just slightly more self aware than everyone else who was casually shit posting.
It also felt like an intentional choice? Is that a right read IV? It stood out to me and I'm wondering if you were trying to accomplish something specific with the "guys I'm scum" shit posts or if you just didn't want to let go of the fun
Also I'm not sure I vibe with your jump on Cephrir as I think interpreting "don't post your reads list every page" as "Cephrir must hate mastina's reads" feels like just looking for something to attack
I don't have any real thoughts on anyone else yet. OkaPoka feels the same as last game but I don't think that actually means anything for their slot. I thought the worst's pop in was kind of weird on a gut level? but I assume that's just because duck hasn't read the game yet.
i kind of like the first point but it kind of reads as a bit too 'this is my good reasons for doing what i was doing, i'm doing good things'
Basically, yes. It looks good, it looks town, but is it actually town?
I don't think so; it is the type of post I would expect Dannflor to make as scum to look town. It just feels fundamentally wrong to be from a town-Dann, due to the fairly forced nature of it.
I also would like to say:
I fundamentally disagree with the idea that, "scum MUST have infiltrated the early shitposting bloc", or variants on it. The idea that scum must be in there is fundamentally a flawed one, as it relies on scum not only being on at a specific time, but being able to perfectly blend in with the vibe of the town and keep this up over an extended period of time.
Think like pichu-Ydrasse (Hopkirk isn't Hectic your teammate? If I am remembering correctly that is; if so, Hectic should know what I'm talking about here) in interactions--the content posted might be fluff, but the extended, over time, nature of the exchange, over numerous pages, is something that scum would struggle to consistently fake. This was basically a good section of Hectic's townread on Ydrasse, and it is equally as applicable here for the people posting during that time and why they are all town. (Outliers which could be faked even tho I townread them: AGar, Ythan. But the core, hercule, you Hopkirk, innocentvillager, and OkaPoka? I don't think scum could have faked that.)
I wish I could explain it in a convincing way, mafia is as much about finding scum as it is convincing players that your read is correct. How can I explain adequately that he reads immensely self-conscious?
You just did it. I can get that.
Honestly I like IV's posting so far but I also feel fairly confident that if IV is scum, this is unsustainable for him? Like I can't think of many players who would be able to keep that up long term. I'm not afraid of him duping everyone and suddenly we get to endgame and he's sliding by. I think the kids these days call that "deepwolfing" or something.
Ceph's posting feels looser. I like this.
In post 519, Xtoxm wrote:>why do people cry about teammates content being posted in team mafia, you signed up for the wrong fucking game, dipshits
I mean, I like teammate content but only if it's also mixed well with actual player content.
You've basically shitposted with everyone else in the little bit you're here and now you wanna vote Dann. Unless I missed something it just seems a little outta left field and I'm curious. And I see you answered this in the next post. Seems fine.
Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!