Open 805 Panic Room Day 1

[notscience]

Not_Mafia

{1}

- Not_Mafia

PenguinPower

{1}

- MURDERCAT

shadowslug

{1}

- Green Crayons

Green Crayons

{2}

- Dumb and Dumber, Infinity 324

YyottaCat

{1}

- Gamma Emerald

Not voting

{5}

- PenguinPower, shadowslug, Salsabil Faria, YyottaCat, Daenerys and Dragons

Votes needed to Eliminate:

{6}

. Deadline for Day 1 is Saturday, February 13 at 2 PM EDT, or in (expired on 2021-02-13 16:00:00).

MOD NOTES:
Votes placed for “D+D” will not count.
Please reach out if you notice any mistakes in my count.

[Green Crayons]

It's almost like there hasn't been a votecount this game and maybe possible maybe I'm waiting to see where everything is currently.

Maybe.

Possibly.

So you finally shifted away from the "well TECHNICALLY that play doesn't fit the DEFINITION" defense.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: not_mafia

[PenguinPower]

His vote switch from me to Penguin, after I expressed problems with Penguin (from Murder's prompting), I think is more suggestive of town than scum.

idk - seems like buddying to me

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

he's my mason buddy

[Green Crayons]

His vote switch from me to Penguin, after I expressed problems with Penguin (from Murder's prompting), I think is more suggestive of town than scum.

idk - seems like buddying to me

can you confirm whether it fits the definition, though?

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: not_mafia

Reason?

he's my mason buddy

Another joke

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: GC

GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?

Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.

This is a scummy post

[Daenerys and Dragons]

hello after a long day of Sundance movies and Royal Rumble I am here to enlighten you all

-Dragons

[Daenerys and Dragons]

oh shit there are two D&Ds in this game
this has never happened before...

-dragons

[Daenerys and Dragons]

I am going to lean towards defending skitter here having just recently seen her get horribly miselimmed twice (in Betrayal and Tenet)

i like skitter but they seem kinda nervous right now

UNVOTE:

Skitter tends to always read that way
let her do her thing for a bit

Uh its just not a post scum makes?

~ skitter

nervous isn't the right word but this seems like you're getting annoyed at their questioning of you in a defensive way

This

I don't think this was anything noteworthy

I don’t really think skitter came off as defensive, maybe like.. confused that infinity assumed a reason for her read that wasn’t true and wasn’t stated. Can we instead talk about why shadowslug seems to think her response is “annoyed in a defensive way”?

- Daenerys

Well now this just seems like you're inviting other people to question me rather than doing the dirty work yourself

Probably gonna vote this once I'm done reading up and see where lilith landed

-Dragons

[Daenerys and Dragons]

I like Salsabil's entrance. Feels genuine.

His posts dont feel like ones (newb) scum make

(Sorry i know u just said u dont like that but that's where ghe read is coming from

Same with yyotta)

~ skitter

Pedit dont like the shadow vote

I actually liked the shadow vote because I wanted to do the same thing.

Avoiding (twice!) the question while attacking the player questioning your behavior is very new player scum behavior.

^this is good logic

Yeah I get what you are saying.

How are you reading PP right now?

VOTE: PenguinPower

Murder your opening is feeling a little weird this game...

VOTE: GC

GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?

Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.

I have the opposite opinion. Feels like shadow is the one faking here.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

VOTE: shadowslug

By far my strongest SR after catching up.
Need to talk to lilith more.

-Dragons

[shadowslug]

I unvoted infinity cos I thought 5 votes equaled a hammer btw. I don't think that Infinity post i quoted was even that scummy either, just an in the moment gut read thing.

So you paid enough attention to see that there was an infinity vote, but not enough attention to see that that very post said that it was six to hammer?

No I didn't read 82 when I unvoted, posts were coming in pretty quick at that time

Why would I not want to be on a miselim wagon? I wouldn't care if Infinity gets quick elim'd as maf. I'm hardly going to cop suspicion just for having voted him. Maybe you could argue my unvote was performative, which I'd accept even if it wasn't. But your current reasoning doesn't make sense. Why does it feel like you've already concluded I'm maf and are just trying to find things to justify your read?

[shadowslug]

VOTE: GC

GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?

Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.

I felt similar confusion at all the names. I'm

still

getting the D+D's mixed up. The desire to try and understand why people are voting/get a clear grasp of the game feels very townie to me. And her in-the-moment questioning after that post solidifies this TR.

[shadowslug]

VOTE: shadowslug

By far my strongest SR after catching up.
Need to talk to lilith more.

-Dragons

Doubt you need to talk to lilith since you've both read the game in the same way

You both defend skitter and ascribe scummy intent to my questioning of skitter (why? you acknowledge skitter might come off as defensive to people who aren't familiar with her play, so isn't my point legitimate?)

[shadowslug]

I don’t really think skitter came off as defensive, maybe like.. confused that infinity assumed a reason for her read that wasn’t true and wasn’t stated. Can we instead talk about why shadowslug seems to think her response is “annoyed in a defensive way”?

- Daenerys

To clarify on why I didn't like this post - the first sentence was fine and the post could have ended there. The second post invites pressure to me without lilith trying to work out my thought process directly. That was what drew my attention foremost. Why you think drawing attention to myself by not just answering the question is scum indicative i don't know.

[shadowslug]

VOTE: GC

GC keeps pinging me, I guess it doesn't feel like there's genuine scumhunting underneath his caginess?

Shadow, I feel like that would be scummy if anything? (Newbscum are more likely to be lost/confused I think) Though the slip was probably genuine.

I felt similar confusion at all the names. I'm

still

getting the D+D's mixed up. The desire to try and understand why people are voting/get a clear grasp of the game feels very townie to me. And her in-the-moment questioning after that post solidifies this TR.

Also - scum may be lost and confused, but they probably don't want to

appear

lost and confused. So the earnestness in being confused and the fact I felt similarly earns a townread from me. Do you feel there's a difference between being and appearing?

[Infinity 324]

I think there could be a benefit to scum appearing lost and confused--people might give them the benefit of the town, and it's not a scumtell I've seen people use often.

Cakez do you still SR shadow on this page? The reasoning feels very genuine here, 187 felt like he thought he caught scum, and he also townslipped.

[Infinity 324]

benefit of the town

benefit of the doubt*

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I find infinity’s post more concerning than skitter’s
Felt like it was making skitter’s yyotta read into something it wasn’t

I mean, now that skitter described it, is "comfortable" really that much different from "vibing"? I still feel like I was talking about something adjacent to what skitter's read was

huh
I expected you to take the chance to acknowledge I had a point
digging in your heels like that feels like a town move

[Infinity 324]

Murder what do you think of GC atp? I lean town on penguin for not trying to look town

[Daenerys and Dragons]

VOTE: shadowslug

By far my strongest SR after catching up.
Need to talk to lilith more.

-Dragons

Doubt you need to talk to lilith since you've both read the game in the same way

You both defend skitter and ascribe scummy intent to my questioning of skitter (why? you acknowledge skitter might come off as defensive to people who aren't familiar with her play, so isn't my point legitimate?)

?????
Why would I not need to talk about reads with my hydra partner?

I think there could be a benefit to scum appearing lost and confused--people might give them the benefit of the town, and it's not a scumtell I've seen people use often.

Cakez do you still SR shadow on this page? The reasoning feels very genuine here, 187 felt like he thought he caught scum, and he also townslipped.

I actually didn't like 187 the reasoning felt convoluted

-dragons