Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

What about MT's play is towny rn PB?
I ask because I kinda lack any real impression of MT at all

[Morning Tweet]

Its a soft guilty and you said that yourself. Why should I do anything about it?
Fwiw I do think its kind of convenient that you watched SPF last night but I do believe the claim and will town bin you for now.

how exactly could the claim have been fabricated?

[Pink Ball]

Both you and Noraa tried to make things that made no sense around Kanna's wagon. If Spring dies, you both gete towncred; if she doesn't, you saved her.

How am I getting towncred while not being on the wagon
I literally had a CW ready to go in cake and I completely relented on it
I said in my iso that I wanted to flip kanna, not someone else

One thing is what you expected; other, is what is happening. You are NOT getting towncred, but you thought you would, because there was some kind of consensus that the players who were defending Spring at the end of the day looked townie. Noraa got to the top of the readlists by doing so, and so did Pooky.

[Noraa]

Its a soft guilty and you said that yourself. Why should I do anything about it?
Fwiw I do think its kind of convenient that you watched SPF last night but I do believe the claim and will town bin you for now.

how exactly could the claim have been fabricated?

well the scum know who they are gonna kill so uh that would be where the fabrication comes in???

[Pink Ball]

What about MT's play is towny rn PB?
I ask because I kinda lack any real impression of MT at all

You'll have to talk with Jingle about that. He can answer this question better than me, 'cause I thought Murder was scum when the day started.

[MURDERSUNNY]

One thing is what you expected; other, is what is happening. You are NOT getting towncred, but you thought you would, because there was some kind of consensus that the players who were defending Spring at the end of the day looked townie. Noraa got to the top of the readlists by doing so, and so did Pooky.

yes, why would I expect towncred without voting?

[Pink Ball]

By the way, Morning, do you confirm that you sent your fruit to SPF?

[Gamma Emerald]

What about MT's play is towny rn PB?
I ask because I kinda lack any real impression of MT at all

You'll have to talk with Jingle about that. He can answer this question better than me, 'cause I thought Murder was scum when the day started.

MT = morning tweet

[Noraa]

Whats dumb is that regardless of what Private flips, Pink ball is going to scum read me because he's tunneled.
And I have yet to figure out if he's just scum cuz his solve is so awful im not even sure im willing to town bin at this point.

Why I say he will SR me regardless of Privates flip:
If Private flips town and I was one of the last votes on the wagon, its obvious what he's gonna say regardless of the things he's saying right now.
And then apparently if Private flips scum, im the buddy cuz ~reasons~

[Pink Ball]

One thing is what you expected; other, is what is happening. You are NOT getting towncred, but you thought you would, because there was some kind of consensus that the players who were defending Spring at the end of the day looked townie. Noraa got to the top of the readlists by doing so, and so did Pooky.

yes, why would I expect towncred without voting?

Let's do something: if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Sorry for that, but I have enough reasons to be confident right now, since I caught the first scum and correctly guessed who was going to be the nightkill. If I'm right, you can answer me this question after the game ends, 'cause all I can do is speculate about why did you not vote Spring when it was obvious the wagon was not going to be derailed. My speculation is that Maria's vote caught you by surprise and you actually wanted to hammer Spring but couldn't.

[Pink Ball]

What about MT's play is towny rn PB?
I ask because I kinda lack any real impression of MT at all

You'll have to talk with Jingle about that. He can answer this question better than me, 'cause I thought Murder was scum when the day started.

MT = morning tweet

Yes, sorry, I meant MT

[MURDERSUNNY]

I had ample time to hammer.

[Jingle]

Everyone who sends fruit that doesn't explicitly do something is sending that fruit to PB.

I'm like 90% sure that PB doesn't die tonight.

Every non protective role claims tomorrow.

[Pink Ball]

Hey Gamma let's make a bet: how many posts will Noraa have before she dies

[MURDERSUNNY]

Noraa, PB is literally confirmed town for that claim.

[Pink Ball]

I had ample time to hammer.

As I said, I'm speculating. You're making a question I can't really answer. To either side I mean. I don't know what your intentions where

[Noraa]

Noraa, PB is literally confirmed town for that claim.

I disagree.

[Jingle]

MT towncase.

The gist of my MT townread is this:

When here, she consistently posts things that either have a clear trajectory or a very town organization to them. Take for example 3071:

You might say it's a summary, and there is certainly a summary aspect to it. However, it also comes with it's fair share of analysis. Her take on PB not being a bus is basically the same reasoning from my post at Noraa. The stop in the middle to look at SB's reads comes across as a genuine attempt at scumhunting, and the notations there all struck me as relevant. All of the events she brought up do strike me as noteworthy. She doesn't shy away from analyzing motivations (see: murder and preflips, gypyx with maria case) but also doesn't force analysis on every little thing. Possibly best of all, it doesn't feel like there's a motivation to this post. She does all of this analysis and work and ends up with what seems to be a pretty solid starting place for a towncore. It doesn't look like she's doing it for the towncred, because she keeps hunting when the post is done and isn't really trying to steer the conversation away from any suspicious characters.

She's been fairly consistently doing that throughout her ISO, in fact. Sure, MT doesn't really make huge waves, but nothing she's done gives me any thoughts that she's trying to push the game in a proscum direction either. She's just been sitting there, solidly putting in the work and coming to decent conclusions while not really having much attention paid to her in comparison to the big flashy fights and cases. Unlike the lurker crew, though, she IS actively working to advance the gamestate.

[Cheetory6]

I think the only way Pink Ball can be scum here is if mafia has a role where the factional kill also watches, which would make this all an incredibly elaborate way of setting up a chain of miselims off of credible information.
But does a role like that exist?
Seems kind of like a stretch.
And tbh I'm kind of okay losing to it if that is the case lol.

[Noraa]

Everyone who sends fruit that doesn't explicitly do something is sending that fruit to PB.

I'm like 90% sure that PB doesn't die tonight.

Every non protective role claims tomorrow.

ooo this plan is nice. I stan.

[Morning Tweet]

Am I like god emperor town, or am I awful just because I'm wrong on you? Or am I right?

(>ω<)

Its a soft guilty and you said that yourself. Why should I do anything about it?
Fwiw I do think its kind of convenient that you watched SPF last night but I do believe the claim and will town bin you for now.

how exactly could the claim have been fabricated?

well the scum know who they are gonna kill so uh that would be where the fabrication comes in???

and the other two players..?

By the way, Morning, do you confirm that you sent your fruit to SPF?

yeah this part -- I did, so it makes no sense to think that this is a fake claim

You could say scum sent both someone to kill SPF and watch it i guess but that would reveal PB to be scum automatically after our deaths so doesnt rlly make sense either

pedit: Oh dear this is an actual thing we're debating

[Pink Ball]

Everyone who sends fruit that doesn't explicitly do something is sending that fruit to PB.

I'm like 90% sure that PB doesn't die tonight.

Every non protective role claims tomorrow.

Did you enjoy the Loring Peach?

[Noraa]

and the other two players..?

no the night action definitely happened. I was just saying its quite a coincidence that watcher just happened to watch the night 1 nk.

[MURDERSUNNY]

I said, I'm speculating. You're making a question I can't really answer. To either side I mean. I don't know what your intentions where

I already stated that I was attempting to give Titus more info. You can't answer it because you are not paying attention to the parts of the game that don't fit with your solve. Which, I get it, it happens, but you are turning a won game into a not won game by putting me and Noraa back into the possible elim pool.

[Pink Ball]

I think the only way Pink Ball can be scum here is if mafia has a role where the factional kill also watches, which would make this all an incredibly elaborate way of setting up a chain of miselims off of credible information.
But does a role like that exist?
Seems kind of like a stretch.
And tbh I'm kind of okay losing to it if that is the case lol.

See, this is what paranoia looks like. Not what Noraa tried to do at the start of this day