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Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:12 pm

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In post 3921, Pink Ball wrote:Did you enjoy the Loring Peach?
That is not the peach flavor I received, actually.
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Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:12 pm

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In post 3924, Pink Ball wrote:See, this is what paranoia looks like. Not what Noraa tried to do at the start of this day
What I did at the start of the day was not paranoia. My read had nothing to do with being paranoid of you.
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Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 3923, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 3915, Pink Ball wrote:I said, I'm speculating. You're making a question I can't really answer. To either side I mean. I don't know what your intentions where
I already stated that I was attempting to give Titus more info. You can't answer it because you are not paying attention to the parts of the game that don't fit with your solve. Which, I get it, it happens, but you are turning a won game into a not won game by putting me and Noraa back into the possible elim pool.
Titus is always scum in my eyes so it makes sense that you're scum
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Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 3925, Jingle wrote:That is not the peach flavor I received, actually.
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Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:15 pm

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In post 3925, Jingle wrote:
In post 3921, Pink Ball wrote:Did you enjoy the Loring Peach?
That is not the peach flavor I received, actually.
Really?
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Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:15 pm

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UNVOTE:
I want today to settle a bit before anything happens.
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Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:15 pm

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PB I am going to give you a list of reasons that I am town and I'm going to ask you to try to explain them in good faith. If you can't will you admit your SR on me has holes?
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Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:15 pm

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In post 3930, Cheetory6 wrote:UNVOTE:
I want today to settle a bit before anything happens.
you prob shouldn't do this otherwise you'll get accused of derailing by the grand scumhunter
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Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:17 pm

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I have to vote someone else in order to be derailing :P
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Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 3929, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3925, Jingle wrote:
In post 3921, Pink Ball wrote:Did you enjoy the Loring Peach?
That is not the peach flavor I received, actually.
Really?
Really. I got a sunhigh peach.
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Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 3912, Jingle wrote:Every non protective role claims tomorrow.
this is not a good plan
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Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:18 pm

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Show of hands, who got the loring peach?
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Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 3931, MURDERSUNNY wrote:PB I am going to give you a list of reasons that I am town and I'm going to ask you to try to explain them in good faith. If you can't will you admit your SR on me has holes?
Murder, I have stated twice that I could be wrong, don't you think it's a little pathetic to go this route?

My scumread on Spring had holes too. She flipped scum. Because town casing scum has holes, because they are not informed. I gave the most important argument first: you're part of my PoE after Private flips scum. You can't do nothing against PoE. The second most important argument: you've tried to derail scum wagons twice. That's it.
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Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 3937, Pink Ball wrote:Murder, I have stated twice that I could be wrong, don't you think it's a little pathetic to go this route?

My scumread on Spring had holes too. She flipped scum. Because town casing scum has holes, because they are not informed. I gave the most important argument first: you're part of my PoE after Private flips scum. You can't do nothing against PoE. The second most important argument: you've tried to derail scum wagons twice. That's it.
No because I am town and I'm convinced that if we lim Private > Me > Noraa we will lose
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Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:19 pm

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There would be one townflip in that chain if he's wrong on you.
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Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:20 pm

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In post 3936, Jingle wrote:Show of hands, who got the loring peach?
Eh, Morning confirmed that she sent her peach to SPF and Private claiming doing that too, so if something got mixed up with my peach I don't care. You could've been busdriven, who cares.
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Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:20 pm

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To be honest, I think gamma is scum here and not anyone else that is talking a shit ton rn(ie Murder, Pink Ball, Jingle, cheet)
I could see Murder as scum here. I could see it but I don't think its a top priority for today and there's been so many pushers that I honestly just think murder is just town here.
I find a lot of problems in gamma being my biggest defender until the moment some people start voicing suspicions on me. Like yes personal reads are influenced by consensus reads but I don't think reads are ever THAT fluid.
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Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:20 pm

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In post 3939, Cheetory6 wrote:There would be one townflip in that chain if he's wrong on you.
I am also convinced that Noraa is town.
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Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:21 pm

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In post 3917, Jingle wrote:MT towncase.
In post 3245, Jingle wrote:The gist of my MT townread is this:

When here, she consistently posts things that either have a clear trajectory or a very town organization to them. Take for example 3071:

You might say it's a summary, and there is certainly a summary aspect to it. However, it also comes with it's fair share of analysis. Her take on PB not being a bus is basically the same reasoning from my post at Noraa. The stop in the middle to look at SB's reads comes across as a genuine attempt at scumhunting, and the notations there all struck me as relevant. All of the events she brought up do strike me as noteworthy. She doesn't shy away from analyzing motivations (see: murder and preflips, gypyx with maria case) but also doesn't force analysis on every little thing. Possibly best of all, it doesn't feel like there's a motivation to this post. She does all of this analysis and work and ends up with what seems to be a pretty solid starting place for a towncore. It doesn't look like she's doing it for the towncred, because she keeps hunting when the post is done and isn't really trying to steer the conversation away from any suspicious characters.

She's been fairly consistently doing that throughout her ISO, in fact. Sure, MT doesn't really make huge waves, but nothing she's done gives me any thoughts that she's trying to push the game in a proscum direction either. She's just been sitting there, solidly putting in the work and coming to decent conclusions while not really having much attention paid to her in comparison to the big flashy fights and cases. Unlike the lurker crew, though, she IS actively working to advance the gamestate.
Okay
curious how my play isn't working to advance the gamestate (using your words), like, I admit I'm not really adding much but I'm doing what I can to assist the movers and shakers of the game. Don't see why that doesn't count as "advancing the gamestate"
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Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:21 pm

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We don't necessarily lim Noraa if you flip town in Pink Ball's world.
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Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:21 pm

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Or at least that was my understanding.
It seems melodramatic to think that two townflips after two scumflips would be GG.
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Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 3944, Cheetory6 wrote:We don't necessarily lim Noraa if you flip town in Pink Ball's world.
I understand that, but in that world I am also dead and can't argue in favor of Noraa who continues to make herself look awful by trying to push PB.
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Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:22 pm

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Point.

I was trying to determine if it was a town or a scum busdrive, but I'm not entirely sure how to take advantage of that information either way.
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Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 3939, Cheetory6 wrote:There would be one townflip in that chain if he's wrong on you.
Ding ding ding

Already said that if you flip town, Murder, I was wrong and town would have to solve the game and watch out for the lurkers (Jake, mainly).

I want to say, also, that if both you and Noraa flipped town, I think we would win this either way. There's a solid townblock. And competent players in said townblock.
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Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 3948, Pink Ball wrote:And competent players in said townblock.
If murder is also town, you are certainly not a "competent player"
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