I think Swedes makes the most sense to be the Jester in those three.
In fact we should offer Raymond/Swedes/Hazel a chance to claim Jester - it would put the other 2 in a bad spot.
I’m not opposed but why wouldn’t you think out of the three of them, mafia wouldn’t try that? One is pushing Grace to trick us into thinking they’re scum right?
In post 253, Cha Cha wrote:if a mafia claims jester and gets counterclaimed by the real jester in the three, the last one out has to be mafia
Problem is why would the real jester do that because if both scum get elimed they lose. It’s only in jester’s wincon to elim one scum not both, so I doubt they would sacrifice their wincon to help town, so I doubt you can really rely on that.
I think it’s Raymond because he’s pushing both Grace and me as and as the actual scumteam. That isn’t a jester mindset.
At the same time I feel like I could easily switch you and swedes around.
I don't like graces lack of engagement, I don't like graces telling of information but actual lack of hunting of any kind, and everything she is doing is entirely surface level.
I also feel like she feels the need to effort enough so that she doesn't get limmed here so she throws manipulative words that are designed to make people back down rather than want to fight her further which also supports her as not jester in this case
In post 256, Hazel Rofa wrote:Like... Apparently, raymond and I are chainsawing but the idea that you and grace are as well is for some reason entirely out of the question?
The only read I have on grace is that grace is not a jester here so they must be town or mafia and I don't think they are town
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Like, why the heck are we supposed to sheep you guys that are doing what you are accusing others of doing, and use it as a way to scumread slots
only thing Grace realistically has against me is "you're scum because you don't want to die"
as if town ever wanted to die in this gamestate either, but okay
In post 256, Hazel Rofa wrote:Like... Apparently, raymond and I are chainsawing but the idea that you and grace are as well is for some reason entirely out of the question?
The only read I have on grace is that grace is not a jester here so they must be town or mafia and I don't think they are town
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Like, why the heck are we supposed to sheep you guys that are doing what you are accusing others of doing, and use it as a way to scumread slots
only thing Grace realistically has against me is "you're scum because you don't want to die"
as if town ever wanted to die in this gamestate either, but okay
Why can’t Grace be a jester here and if you think she could be town than how is voting her not pro scum?
What I’m getting from both Raymond and Rofa is that they think Grace and me are mafia. They both think Grace is either town or scum. They both also think I’m more likely to be jester or mafia so why are they preferring Grace over me?
If I'm saying handlers reaction to a jester willing to town side is "ok, we'll let you win tomorrow if we hab a mafia today" as a town reaction then it's obvious that I'm going to read the exact opposite reaction as a different alignment?
Lila!scum wouldn't like the idea of jester townsiding because it makes her wincon harder to achieve. If she can successfully get another mislim today why would she want to work with a jester?
Lila!jester doesn't like the idea of another jester townsiding because I'm a game with just two jesters instead of three, she would have to work that much harder to get limmed before the other jester. Lila!jester would be harboring some level of irritation towards chacha clearly claiming jester and Townsiding, and being the first jester to think of the idea before any other of the jesters could
In post 256, Hazel Rofa wrote:Like... Apparently, raymond and I are chainsawing but the idea that you and grace are as well is for some reason entirely out of the question?
The only read I have on grace is that grace is not a jester here so they must be town or mafia and I don't think they are town
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Like, why the heck are we supposed to sheep you guys that are doing what you are accusing others of doing, and use it as a way to scumread slots
only thing Grace realistically has against me is "you're scum because you don't want to die"
as if town ever wanted to die in this gamestate either, but okay
Why can’t Grace be a jester here and if you think she could be town than how is voting her not pro scum?
In post 262, Lila Pitts wrote:What I’m getting from both Raymond and Rofa is that they think Grace and me are mafia. They both think Grace is either town or scum. They both also think I’m more likely to be jester or mafia so why are they preferring Grace over me?
I have not the faintest idea of where did you get that I think Grace is "either town or scum." Grace is like 90% scum 10% jester and I'm leaning scum pretty heavily because she's trying to discredit me even using cheap tactics like insulting inteligence and making fake assumptions, so I'm never letting her live if it's in my hands. others are free to disagree, but it's a scummy slot regardless of actual alignment and it should be punished as the mistake that it is
you are putting words I NEVER said in my mouth, so that's +1 scummy sock in your scum score
In post 257, Hazel Rofa wrote:At the same time I feel like I could easily switch you and swedes around.
I don't like graces lack of engagement, I don't like graces telling of information but actual lack of hunting of any kind, and everything she is doing is entirely surface level.
I also feel like she feels the need to effort enough so that she doesn't get limmed here so she throws manipulative words that are designed to make people back down rather than want to fight her further which also supports her as not jester in this case
1v1 me, bro. How are you gonna call out my lack of engagement when you're reading Micro 995: Secret Jesters?
