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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:51 pm

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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:52 pm

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my analysis of that implo post was still valid

I meant read as in my aggregate assesment of how scummy the slot is. It dropped lots of stock price. Because of a separate towny thing that happened
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:53 pm

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In post 248, ben dover123 wrote:How does having access to talking with other player change how you view that 1 post by implo?
Do you think everyone can talk to other people in a PT?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:54 pm

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In post 252, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 248, ben dover123 wrote:How does having access to talking with other player change how you view that 1 post by implo?
Do you think everyone can talk to other people in a PT?
No, but I'm still not sure how that relates to the read in general.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 249, Infinity 324 wrote:She's implying that I'm scum if I don't find the post towny
Well...not by the way she worded it. If she said you are scum if you don't find that one implo post towny then she could have said it straight up but she chose to say that if you don't find implo's post towny then you have outside influence in some way. That's the question I'm trying to figure out here.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:01 pm

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She was just saying it in a clever way, scum have scumbuddies they can talk to
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:02 pm

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That
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 255, Infinity 324 wrote:She was just saying it in a clever way, scum have scumbuddies they can talk to
Sigh. Maybe I'm just going mad with my logic.

I'll be waiting for the explanation to why that particular post is towny. Still not seeing it.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:14 pm

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i was also oddly baffled because i did not click on the link of the all caps thing that was not explained in isis's post without clicking the link and had no idea what was being referred to :x
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:16 pm

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i would strongly endorse an isis wagon rn btw!

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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:17 pm

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In post 245, Infinity 324 wrote:I would like to know others' thoughts on this post actually
Is the thing you want thoughts on the manner in which she called you scum, or the fact that she thinks not finding that post towny is scummy? My interpretation is you want thoughts on the latter? In which case I would say, eh. It's possibly a little bit out-there of an accusation for scum to make that no town player could possibly disagree with her opinion. Or maybe she already thought you were scum and is not actually putting stock in you not thinking that post was towny as being indicative of you being scum.

This is like, the most semantically challenging post i think i've ever had to write
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:18 pm

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i don't really have much opinion on isis right now. kinda trying to parse how she's viewing the game.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:18 pm

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Ooh - interesting. I didn’t think about the latter.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:20 pm

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Do you agree that your post was towny, and do you see where isis is coming from?
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:28 pm

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In post 60, Datisi wrote:what is the point of giving out the warning in advance?
Why does it matter? Levels of engagement are tricky to fake as scum.
In post 61, seCret hYdra wrote:and why you assuming that's not the case here?
Because I thought you were the other head until you clarified and your activity is miles better than my experience with you.
In post 84, AaronFrost wrote:i feel like the same logic could apply here if he's scum, especially since he's part of a hydra this game
Meh. Maybe? But typically in this instance that player would end up taking a backseat, in a perpetual "im catching up but" mode.
In post 104, Infinity 324 wrote:Fwiw, normally when I see scum question TRs on themselves, it's one question and they often don't follow up, so my RVS-townread is now an actual townread.
What? is the first time Penguin's posted since implo townread him. How is this "following up" on it?
In post 140, Bridgeburners wrote:notsci limiting his posting is prob town motivated
Why?
In post 175, Isis wrote:I don't think town!implo could actually find that much AI so early in the game and it feels like I'm looking at performative play.
I'm a tad skeptical on it too, but I have little bearing on implo's play. I was writing it off as him taking glances of my play in 2181? I also think it's early and if I can use the "its literally page 3" excuse so can he lol
In post 175, Isis wrote:skitter didn't tell the mod right away about her V/LA
skitter has done this in both games I have played with her iirc and she was town in both

plus its in her sig lol
In post 192, Bridgeburners wrote:Isis can i tempt you with a scipio vote?
I have not seen one haiku.
In post 198, implosion wrote:I also think there is a pretty solid chance that bridgeburners are scum but that is very definitely something to litigate later.
Why? I'm fairly solidly townreading Mena's posting thus far.

I'm a tad lost. I think it's playing in catchup mode, but excuses don't really do anything. I still think gypyx is town. I think mena/skitter is town. I'm kinda leaning town on isis I think? Not enough to stand in the way of it. I didn't like infinity's townread of penguin for following up on a post when that was the first time penguin asked about it- that seems like a weird take to make.

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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:31 pm

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Not really seeing the Isis SR's.
In post 183, Isis wrote:how is that a townslip? doesn't this setup only have a godfather a quarter of the time or something?
Also, this post feels way too dumb to be scum actually trying to fake a townslip, considering it came right after my original post was shown.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:32 pm

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In post 173, Bridgeburners wrote:
In post 167, AaronFrost wrote:VOTE: Scipio
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:34 pm

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notsci why are you town on isis?

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:35 pm

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In post 264, notscience wrote:What? 104 is the first time Penguin's posted since implo townread him. How is this "following up" on it?
That post was referring to datisi
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 264, notscience wrote:skitter has done this in both games I have played with her iirc and she was town in both
i've done it i think in nearly every single game i've played for literally years now as both alignments and a) isis managed to dig up the like one example where i didn't and b) she really ought to know that

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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:38 pm

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Ah, reading is tech. Sorry infinity.

@skitter-
This is going to sound really weird but I liked her push on you about the v/la thing and don’t think scum isis comes up with that. It’s not a bet the farm read but it felt town enough where I wanted to comment on it.

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Do you have a lot of experience with isis? I might be missing context here.

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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:41 pm

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In post 175, Isis wrote:skitter didn't tell the mod right away about her V/LA in Mini 2113 as town, but did so in Newbie 1951 as scum and did so in Silent Star 3 as scum. I'm sure further citations will dilute this pattern but even with a weak pattern, it feels significant when this is a game where she's in a hydra and she knows it matters less. It's also somewhat less town-hydra-y to opt for shouting that out to the mod right away versus consulting with Menalque to ascertain how necessary it is or isn't, since as town it's a shared responsibility to solve the game and as scum the posting pattern is more of a visible lifestyle or that's a bad metaphor I was trying to think of a better one.
this is one of the most bizzare takes i've seen, especially weird after you called out my own apparent moon logic
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This is a weird moonlogicky post since nervousness is like, you know, hard to hide? It seems oddly level 1 thinking for a vet. I feel bad for not having a read direction on it aside from just finding it salient.
have we played together before?

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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:42 pm

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Scipio is mean

I've played exactly three games with skitter and used all of them for examples of the possible pattern. She doesn't really have a way to allege cherrypicking.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:43 pm

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no I don't think I've ever played with you Aaron
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 264, notscience wrote:I have not seen one haiku.
In post 156, Bridgeburners wrote:most elegant bird
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Do you require a translation to Japanese? I will be happy to oblige if that’s the case.
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