--pedit @fidget so basically your point is I could be scum trying to fake being proactive or be town actually being proactive. The literal point of the game is to try and sort people between those two categories
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Why do you find this type of claim unlikely for scum to make? You mention that it is hasty and scum would be more likely to withhold this info than a town PR would, however, I might argue the opposite. Scum would be more open-handed with this than a town PR would, as there is no need to hide and fear being nightkilled as the former. I suppose that I am confused where you are coming from with this unvote reasoning.In post 96, Grendel wrote:townie pr is a more likely to make a hasty assertion like this then scum is imo. Hasty equal less then 48 hours into the day phase, and there only being a few votes on Porkens. Scum could just lay low and let pressure flow else where.In post 82, Porkens wrote:My flavor would give scum a great guess at my role.In post 79, cassowary wrote:Wait... if porkens thought flavor could be AI but didn't want to claim their flavor (#40), does that imply they thought their flavor was incriminating and could reveal their alignment to be mafia? Hmm... food for thought.
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Hm, not exactly. I believe that prodding someone with a general "What do you think?" question, telling people to stop arguing, or whatever is something more scummy as it is very easy to do and doesn't really help us solve much. Combined with your eager attitude, it comes off as vaguely showy. I believe that scum has much more to gain looking proactive than town does from more hollow posts like those. It is something one might be more likely to think to make as scum rather than truly think to make in an actual town thought process.In post 125, Marky Mark wrote:Other random thought - why is Fidget calling me out for my eagerness but neglecting to mention Vax, who had a significantly higher post # than me, especially at the time it was written as that was prior to my posts this evening
--pedit @fidget so basically your point is I could be scum trying to fake being proactive or be town actually being proactive. The literal point of the game is to try and sort people between those two categories :P.
'They are doing pro-town things, but it might be scum doing it for towncred'(my verrry loose paraphrasing) feels like a pretty thin justification for a vote on someone lol. Yeah, I totally agree it's easy to do generic proactive things as scum so none of it is town-indicative, but I am baffled how this is in any way scum indicative either.
Why not? For scum, looking towny is more important than not looking towny, after all, and I would argue it's probably the easiest to fake content at the beginning.In post 103, Mistyx wrote:i dont think acting performative in rvs is really a solid basis for a wagon
VOTE: uncrowned
i dont like that you just hop in and follow a wagon without other thoughts provided!!
do you have any individual takes on anyone?
I am considering suspecting Uncrowned, but at the same time, it would have been quite easy to have commented on anything at all. He does not even elaborate on why he is voting Mark. This is potentially a complete lack of caring about his own appearance... If I were scum, I would have some thoughts prepared before entering the thread.
Isn't "devoid of further content" just the definition of a naked vote? I am confused as to what exactly you found scummy about Uncrowned's vote specifically.In post 108, Mistyx wrote:not inherently, noIn post 106, Grendel wrote:*@mystix*
if you feel marks behavior is null then what are your thoughts on the rest of the marky mark wagon comp?
is naked voting scummy to you?
but i think uncrowned handled it in a scummy way here, since it was just a follow and devoid of any further content
well a naked vote and then continuing to do stuff isnt scummyIn post 130, Fidget wrote:Isn't "devoid of further content" just the definition of a naked vote? I am confused as to what exactly you found scummy about Uncrowned's vote specifically.In post 108, Mistyx wrote:not inherently, noIn post 106, Grendel wrote:*@mystix*
if you feel marks behavior is null then what are your thoughts on the rest of the marky mark wagon comp?
is naked voting scummy to you?
but i think uncrowned handled it in a scummy way here, since it was just a follow and devoid of any further content
For now,
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well it depends which boss!!In post 131, Flea The Magician wrote:I can promise you flavour is NAI.
You don't get to be a boss and be town aligned if it wasn't :D
well you had to submit multiple picks so i was thinking you might have gotten a different boss :PIn post 134, Flea The Magician wrote:Just saying Flea the Magician does not turn good at any point in the game :P
So tell me yours.In post 131, Flea The Magician wrote:I can promise you flavour is NAI.
Even the might Zeus pales in comparison to the power wielded by I. <3In post 138, Vaxkiller wrote:So tell me yours.In post 131, Flea The Magician wrote:I can promise you flavour is NAI.
Even the might Zeus pales in comparison to the power wielded by I. <3In post 138, Vaxkiller wrote:So tell me yours.In post 131, Flea The Magician wrote:I can promise you flavour is NAI.
That “lol” looks forced.In post 125, Marky Mark wrote:'They are doing pro-town things, but it might be scum doing it for towncred' (my verrry loose paraphrasing) feels like a pretty thin justification for a vote on someone lol
lolIn post 141, Porkens wrote:That “lol” looks forced.In post 125, Marky Mark wrote:'They are doing pro-town things, but it might be scum doing it for towncred' (my verrry loose paraphrasing) feels like a pretty thin justification for a vote on someone lol
it's bad that i want to townread this rightIn post 143, cassowary wrote:lolIn post 141, Porkens wrote:That “lol” looks forced.In post 125, Marky Mark wrote:'They are doing pro-town things, but it might be scum doing it for towncred' (my verrry loose paraphrasing) feels like a pretty thin justification for a vote on someone lol
its a matter of what you seem to be doing vs what you are actually doing. It feels to me like you are playing for town cred, and not to solve the game.In post 120, Marky Mark wrote:Town voice of reason is the best compliment I've had in weeks on this site :3In post 98, Grendel wrote:Marky mark definitely is leaning hard into playing, "Town voice of reason." A favorite of scum's in the early game.
VOTE: Marky
Please tell me more about how trying to work with the rest of the town and move the game forwards makes me scum?
I like some of your analysis posts above this one so I'm not calling you out as scum here per se, I just dont get your logic
No, historically town pr pops and outs info quicker and under less pressure then scum 9 times out of 10.In post 126, Fidget wrote:Why do you find this type of claim unlikely for scum to make? You mention that it is hasty and scum would be more likely to withhold this info than a town PR would, however, I might argue the opposite. Scum would be more open-handed with this than a town PR would, as there is no need to hide and fear being nightkilled as the former. I suppose that I am confused where you are coming from with this unvote reasoning.In post 96, Grendel wrote:townie pr is a more likely to make a hasty assertion like this then scum is imo. Hasty equal less then 48 hours into the day phase, and there only being a few votes on Porkens. Scum could just lay low and let pressure flow else where.In post 82, Porkens wrote:My flavor would give scum a great guess at my role.In post 79, cassowary wrote:Wait... if porkens thought flavor could be AI but didn't want to claim their flavor (#40), does that imply they thought their flavor was incriminating and could reveal their alignment to be mafia? Hmm... food for thought.
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for an offsite reference I think you'd get, consider LC in Ace Attorney mafia as an example of scum playing "Town voice of reason."In post 144, cassowary wrote:Less flippantly: I don't find mark's behavior very scummy and I think a lot of the accusations on him look a bit like grasping. Unless, like, you know him really well and are super confident he wouldn't say 'lol' in this situation normally? I am not even convinced he appears that much to be a 'voice of reason.'
Re other thoughts, I find uncrowned's opening super weird - like, why come in that way? If you hadn't caught up on the game to have other opinions, why cast a vote in your first post when we were already kinda coming out of rvs? Feels like scum trying to imitate slacking town. I'll join the uncrowned wagon for the sake of having a vote somewhere.
VOTE: uncrowned