Mini Normal 2193 | A Member Of The SKs | Town Wins!

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Oh wait cookie might still be a stealth alt

And @esoteric -- it kinda is a fair question because if you *seem* to be defending someone without arguing the slot is town and *clearly* defend a slot then the defense can come off as scummy

Like if cookie is like 'oh ima push lunar' and ur like 'ur argument is bad' then that can seem scummy because cookie doesn't like... always need perfect reasons to push someone? If nothing else he still needs to sort lunar right?

[Ydrasse]

You're kinda shading the wagon without really defending Lunar and then you vote the newbie queue player who wants to chomp the mafia

I'm worried ydra!

also you framing cookie like some Innocent New Soul why fretting over my alignment feels bad krazy. these are the bad vibes i get from you

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

You're talking about hypocrisy but not scum motivation -- yeah, ydra, I'm worried lol

Cookie being new or not (maybe she's not) doesn't matter, I'm just not sure I believe you think it's actually scummy

Like what is your read of Lunar?

[Ydrasse]

i could go for lunar but i don’t have a strong read there. looked over the few amount of posts and the wagon seems like... path of least resistance to get elimmed given the lack of content

or scum is bussing. but eh? it just doesn’t feel useful when lunar is scarcely here

^

[Ydrasse]

i do think it’s scummy enough to poke at her for it

[Ydrasse]

also imo cookie if new will be easier to sort

[Ydrasse]

gretchen immediately defending her makes me want to figure out cookie even more fwiw

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Esoteric and Ydrasse can be Town.

clock is ticking

this brings back my first thought on gretchen: if this isn't not_mafia I'm voting them

What happened between this and your last post?
Italiano, Gretchen, and Sam are early scumleans.

Tempting. I'm trying to decide if he's:
a) bearded
b) right on Goose and just omgusing the wrong pool
c) scum

his early posting reads scummy but now he's kinda more like, reminding me of unwnd in tenet which makes me think *he thinks* he's right on *something* but people aren't doing what he wants and that's fucking up his reads

still want to see an actual town thought process from Goose tbh, tempted to revote there

I guess with Ydra off I'll get back on Goose so that stays at 5+

VOTE: goose

bearded? HUB is another player who I'm mildly suspicious of. Our takes are very very different on things, which is kinda surprising at this early stage.

He agrees with me on ydra town (at the time), esoteric town, italiano scum (at the time), gretchen problematic, and disagrees with me on ... Sam? And him being wrong about sam is enough that we have "very very different" takes so much that he is 'mildly suspicious of me' -- if you agree on 4/5 reads, what is he disagreeing with me on so much that he is concerned by?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

438 just feels fake to me

[Ydrasse]

hmm.

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: lunar martian

i’ll bite

e-2

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: cookie monster
I really wanna see what happens when this gets a few votes

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: cookie monster

nvm we ride

[Gretchen]

woooooooooo

VOTE: ItalianoVD

[esotericzoomer]

Oh wait cookie might still be a stealth alt

And @esoteric -- it kinda is a fair question because if you *seem* to be defending someone without arguing the slot is town and *clearly* defend a slot then the defense can come off as scummy

Like if cookie is like 'oh ima push lunar' and ur like 'ur argument is bad' then that can seem scummy because cookie doesn't like... always need perfect reasons to push someone? If nothing else he still needs to sort lunar right?

i wasn't defending lunar i was directly attacking cookie for their push
small difference but it's there and to push forward the idea that i was defending lunar without reason is wild and scummy, not a

scumtell

, but scummy

i probably should refrain from starting meaningless arguments lol

[Gretchen]

what do you think is the meaning of life?

[lendunistus]

Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - 1.12

Lunar Martian

(4): Cookie Monster, Happy Unbirthday Boon, samantha97, esotericzoomer

ItalianoVD

(2): In the beginning, Gretchen

Cookie Monster

(2): Gamma Emerald, Ydrasse

Gretchen

(2): Funeral Goose, ItalianoVD

In the beginning

(1): Battle Mage

Not Voting

(1): Lunar Martian

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-02-14 17:00:00)

[samantha97]

what do you think is the meaning of life?

reproduction

[samantha97]

that post of lunar's the ydrasse pointed out stuck out to me at the time too, because I actually felt it was weird that I agreed with hub, not disagreed

[samantha97]

that ydrasse*

[samantha97]

the ydrasse is kind of cool though

[esotericzoomer]

hmmmm
gamma cw anyone?

[ItalianoVD]

thinking in the beginning, ydrasse, hub are town town town. funeral and italiano maf maf

I like these reads. Gretchen stays in my town pile.

Wow, that easy huh?

I’m pretty sure Funeral is town

??? Based on _____?

350. I'll go in more detail when I do my reads list.

there’s something about this RVS wagon becoming a serious wagon that is questionable to me.

Yikes, terrible take.

Why? It was clear the wagon was RVS. Are you saying that it wasn't? Early RVS activity for me is not as interesting to me. Once we leave RVS, which we eventually did, he wagon still had the same RVS voters on it. Not sure why you're being difficult.

VOTE: Italiano
Lots of bad takes, unjustified statements, and weird obsessions from this slot.

Current scum team is probably something like {Italiano, esoteric, Lunar/Battle Mage} (the last is less what they've done and moreso cuz of their lack of presence.)

Town bloc is HUB and Gretchen.

You feel my takes have been bad, fair enough, but you come in and make an equally as bad take. So the lack of presence makes people scum. And you have battle Mage in there. In this very post you stated: "I agree with this sentiment. People's activity expectations are really unreasonable nowadays" but now you're shading Battle Mage because of... activity.

fyi I'm kinda chill with the italiano wagon but am thinking of going for cookie monster myself

Why Cookie? They haven't done much yet, so I'm not sure why your are motivated to go there over Italiano.

I ask again, why not Cookie?

It's quite possible for newbie scum to just look like newbie scum.

Nah, I disagree. Newbscum wouldn't be that blatant.

They get coaching from their teammates.

I generally have never seen newbies get coached in the way I believe you are implying: like a muzzle. Newbies play the game and get caught because of the newbscuminess.

I don't understand how you can reach a conclusion someone is obvtown, but also anyone pushing them is looking for an easy lim - doesn't make sense.

Well, obviously, I exaggerated some. But that aside, I stand by it---that style of posting/entrance is exactly the thing that scum leap on. It's easy to paint a narrative around it, and if it flips town (as I believe it would), scum can blame it on their play.

Exaggeration? You get called out and your defense is I exaggerated? Nothing to see here huh?

Funeral conftown then.

You're reading in too much. Funeral is 100%

NOT

confirmed town.

But Gretchen is 100% confirmed town? You're confidence, borderline arrogance is really telling.

Because town is not supposed to be voted I thought?

This is a bad response, but potentially townie given my early observation about this slot. I will have to watch them carefully.

This sounds like you're doing what you are accusing a lot of people of doing. Saying stuff just to say stuff. You say it's a bad response, but then backpedal and then say you'll watch them carefully. Given my formulating read on you, I doubt this to be true.

[ItalianoVD]

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

This is your towniest posting yet tbh

But you'll notice I did not vote you over the goose, I was more indicating to the goose what I thought he should do

like that was actually one of his worst posts hub. it did nothing but state the obv, like, what did that post do? did it try and convince you he's town? did he say why that was a bad idea in a way that can convince anyone? no. and the 'fmpov' feels off

Sure you're not suffering from confbias? Voting for me is wrong, plain and simple.

[ItalianoVD]

And what is 469?