Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[Cheetory6]

In a world where SS is town, he’s probably the night kill anyway because clumsy soft.

you think mafia confscums MT in that position?

[Noraa]

i cant believe noraa is trying to dumb tell on the number of scum yet again after death curse rofl

you are the best noraa

never change

I got a role pm to the mini theme and thought I was going there so its not really unreasonable in any way to be confused but also, I'd be that person that would dumb tell that as scum and you know it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I got a role pm to the mini theme and thought I was going there so its not really unreasonable in any way to be confused but also, I'd be that person that would dumb tell that as scum and you know it.

yes

but i almost killed you last time for it so it would be quite insane for you to try yet again :3

[Jingle]

But it is not unreasonable for scum noraa to take not knowing how many scum there are and the line of questioning probably won’t lead me to a lockdown read. Or at least that’s what you appear to be saying.

Fwiw I also think noraa is more town than scum atm.

Pedit: confirmation from noraa, sweet.

Noraa would you do the same thing as town?

[Jingle]

In a world where SS is town, he’s probably the night kill anyway because clumsy soft.

you think mafia confscums MT in that position?

My philosophy is and has always been to plan for the worst case scenario, which in this case is MT town.

I’m willing to wait on the claim until after we have pseudo confirmation on the uniqueness of peaches, but I’m not ready to write the day off as mt being the de facto elim just yet.

[Something_Smart]

You softed a pr and are in a mechanical 1v1. Why wouldn’t you be claiming today?

If I don't think I need to in order to win the 1v1?

[Noraa]

But it is not unreasonable for scum noraa to take not knowing how many scum there are and the line of questioning probably won’t lead me to a lockdown read. Or at least that’s what you appear to be saying.

Fwiw I also think noraa is more town than scum atm.

Pedit: confirmation from noraa, sweet.

Noraa would you do the same thing as town?

uh I am doing this right now and I am town...

[Something_Smart]

Also, for the record, I am better as scum than to blatantly slip that PI is flipping town. I could have added an "if PI flips town" in there, but there would have been no point, since it was clearly implicit.

[Jingle]

But it is not unreasonable for scum noraa to take not knowing how many scum there are and the line of questioning probably won’t lead me to a lockdown read. Or at least that’s what you appear to be saying.

Fwiw I also think noraa is more town than scum atm.

Pedit: confirmation from noraa, sweet.

Noraa would you do the same thing as town?

uh I am doing this right now and I am town...

You are explicitly faking a lack of knowledge on scum team composition? Like, you knew that the game was likely 14:4 or 13:1:4 and proposed a five person scum team anyway?

[Cheetory6]

I'm fine with not rushing the day.
I do also think that MT's claim was wonky enough that I'd rather try to at least initially sort today off of player content rather than forcing a claim from someone who might be townPR if we're much more confident on MT.

I'm worried that scum has something like an informant on a specific peach vendor being a specific role?

I feel like the odds of there being a duplicate flavour rn are pretty low given the number of flavours that have already been claimed and we can probably also just like
read the game and figure it out rather than releasing information in a game with a moderator who almost certainly doesn't like massclaims and will have checks/balances based around that?

[Something_Smart]

I'm worried that scum has something like an informant on a specific peach vendor being a specific role?

Seems unlikely. That would be rude.

[Cheetory6]

UT is a rude dude

[Gypyx]

yeah agreed, that seems really dumb to me, like i know mods like to punish massclaim, but this is taking it too far?

[Jingle]

Also, for the record, I am better as scum than to blatantly slip that PI is flipping town. I could have added an "if PI flips town" in there, but there would have been no point, since it was clearly implicit.

The potential fruit slip does change things, but wasn’t there when I asked originally (nor was I aware of it when I explained the question) but the presumptive need to claim was pretty obvious and ensuring we had time to deal with it was common sense.

I’m not going to worry about the slip issue for the moment.

[Noraa]

You are explicitly faking a lack of knowledge on scum team composition? Like, you knew that the game was likely 14:4 or 13:1:4 and proposed a five person scum team anyway?

uh no?

[Cheetory6]

if massclaiming any aspect of fruit fucks us I get to pee on your graves as a ghost when I get killed

[Cheetory6]

my last words will be "enjoy my ghost piss you fuckers"

[Gypyx]

btw jingle we're confirmed no 3rd party

[Gypyx]

if massclaiming any aspect of fruit fucks us I get to pee on your graves as a ghost when I get killed

alright, do i get to do the opposite if that's not the case? :3

[Cheetory6]

feel free to soak my bones

[Jingle]

We have received no indication that scum vends non peaches, and in fact there is sufficient reason to believe the opposite. That leads to the question of why would SB claim her partner’s peach flavor in the first place.

Case 1: The scum all shared peach flavors early and SB accidentally used her partner’s flavor.
Case 2: The mod error included MT and SB.
Case 3: There are duplicate peach flavors.

I’m sure there are additional cases, those are only the ones that have occurred to me between when I started posting/reading today and now. I’m trying to work out which one is the truth.

[Jingle]

btw jingle we're confirmed no 3rd party

That’s dumb, 3p makes the tiebreakers less likely to be necessary and should always be included in TM.

[Cheetory6]

I think MT would have mentioned it either today or during the post-hammer-session if 2 was the case.

[Jingle]

You are explicitly faking a lack of knowledge on scum team composition? Like, you knew that the game was likely 14:4 or 13:1:4 and proposed a five person scum team anyway?

uh no?

Okay. Then the question stands. Would you do that as town?

[Something_Smart]

The potential fruit slip does change things, but wasn’t there when I asked originally (nor was I aware of it when I explained the question) but the presumptive need to claim was pretty obvious and ensuring we had time to deal with it was common sense.

I'm not against claiming, if people determine that it will actually help them sort between me and MT (which I'm not really sure it will, I'm pretty good at fakeclaiming as scum). But only if a majority actually push me to do it; given that PB clearly stated MT should die first, I don't think it should be the default.