BooneyToonz XV: Dance of the Dark Fairy [Third Moonlight]

[SirCakez]

I'm glad people are finally seeing the light on Nylaa!scum

[SirCakez]

Are you claiming a guilty?

[SirCakez]

That's pretty much the only scenario where I would not want to elim Sequence today

[SirCakez]

We don't do her first cakez. I see it but we do ircher-->gamma-->mom-->nylaa so the narrative is correct to find the last scum. I can explain more later but we still do ircher first even with 3/4 of the scum team solved

-A

I am pretty happy with this although I'm confused why Angel is lockscum all of a sudden

[SirCakez]

Are you claiming a guilty?

Am I? I think mystery is the play here.

Ok then I'm not moving off Sequence.

[SirCakez]

Isn't what Pooky flipped basically what Gamma claimed?

[SirCakez]

I feel like there's not much to discuss here lol

[SirCakez]

I feel like there's not much to discuss here lol

We have Sam's result, Gamma's result, my VCA, new!Koba's replacement. I have got interesting conversations with R and A.

These are all things we are waiting on. We can't talk them into existence.

[SirCakez]

Sircakez needs to as well.

The argument that when Sequence flips scum, Y is confirmed scum is sloppy reasoning that breaks down on flip.
You need to establish why we aren't a 3rd party first and then figure out whether we've been playing toward our win condition as town or scum motivated.
You also need to take into account that we can be wrong and are no more informed on who is and isn't scum than the rest of you.

This out right rejection of our third party claim is thoughtless.

-Bell.

That's not what I'm arguing. My theory is you are scum sided 3P but are claiming you are town sided.

[SirCakez]

No one has explained to me why Angel is scum.

[SirCakez]

I'm getting my wisdom teeth out today so don't expect much coherent content

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Angels

I think it's Angels RA and Nylaa

I can't really do much thinking rn but I am all in on RA's plan and just want Sequence gone

[SirCakez]

Not sure why that quote is there

[SirCakez]

I'm in a lot of pain right now so I can't really add anything probably for the rest of today
I will be back in it tomorrow hopefully

[SirCakez]

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[SirCakez]

I can't fathom what the hell went on at day end yesterday but it is asinine we still haven't elimmed Sequences
I was told day 1 that we shouldn't elim them because scum would NK them for us
Day 3 and they are still alive

[SirCakez]

VOTE: sequence
Forgot to drop this

[SirCakez]

My scum pool is looking like (Nylaa, Lunar, Titus, Elements/Koba, Gamma)
I don't really know what to make of RA slot right now but regardless they aren't my priority

[SirCakez]

Massclaim doesn't open much at this point I think

[SirCakez]

I thought about it.
And I think Mathblade is scum.

VOTE: Mathblade

I've been suspecting him pretty much all game and the feeling is just getting worse and worse.

I am negative interested in a Math elim after this post

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Math

What's this?

Lunar has been lurk sacky AF and I scumread him for it.

No, you are lurky scum.

This is just a blatant lie Math is one of the most active players.

Mathblade [5]: Nylaathria, Lunar Martian, Samantha97, Rei and Asuka, Unwnd

This wagon here makes as much sense as tits on a bull.

Makes me think scum in Lunar/Nylaa

[SirCakez]

I didn't get anything

[SirCakez]

I think Sequence is actually 3P though not groupscum

[SirCakez]

@Cakes, Even if Nylaa and Lunar are both scum, six or seven town voted Math in a row. That type of extensive town piling on suggests Math is scum.

Gamma's first wagon sprung up as a counter.

I'm confused? I only see two town on the wagon you quoted along with three people who I think are pretty scummy

[SirCakez]

I think Sequence is actually 3P though not groupscum

Did you message the mod?

-Bell

Yeah

[SirCakez]

@Cakes, Even if Nylaa and Lunar are both scum, six or seven town voted Math in a row. That type of extensive town piling on suggests Math is scum.

Gamma's first wagon sprung up as a counter.

I'm confused? I only see two town on the wagon you quoted along with three people who I think are pretty scummy

Who are the three you think are scummy?

Right now, my gamestate reads make no sense.

Nylaa Lunar RA

[SirCakez]

Why do you think Rei is/was scummy?

-bell

Their play around Angel was gross

[SirCakez]

Cakez, you really need to take some time to reevaluate. Quite frankly, your reads have been rather static this game. (Mine have been too, but that's beside the point.) Scum are obviously comfortable with both the D1 and D2 game state; they weren't trying to shape in another direction. That should be a warning sign to you, a sign that maybe something is off.

Day 2 was nothing for me because I got my wisdom teeth out and then y'all speedelimmed Angel
I haven't really been able to evolve since day 1

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Nylaa

Cakey, join me.

I would but why can't we just get rid of Sequence????
This game is driving me nuts

[SirCakez]

@Toog why do we need massclaim so badly?

[SirCakez]

FMPOV we have confscum in Sequence and can delay giving scum information for another day

[SirCakez]

also frankly I think MC is a lot townier then most people left in this game

[SirCakez]

Personally, I can't really blame them given their play this game and their reads are heavily scum-siding.
Intentional or not.
Their reads aren't updating and wisdom teeth pulled or not, that's getting old very quickly if they want to keep pushing it.

-Bell.

Who are you even talking about here?

[SirCakez]

Sam visited Sircakez btw.

????
I didn't get a message after checking with boon so you're saying I'm conftown now

[SirCakez]

All I'm seeing is survivalism

[SirCakez]

I've said I think they are scum sided 3p
I checked because I didn't know what message you were talking about until you just brought up Sam

[SirCakez]

All I'm seeing is somebody trying very hard not to think or reread the game. Possibly on purpose.

-Bell.

Why reread when my scumspects are still alive?
I thought angel was town my only misread so far has been Flea

[SirCakez]

Are you serious Titus?
Nylaa has been in my scum pool all game

[SirCakez]

No,
I asked you if you received a message.
You said no like you didn't realize that any message you received would be a scum claim.
I asked you if you were sure and to check with the mod.

And then you did, like you didn't know that receiving a message would be a scum claim.
Which is more evidence you're probably not reading the game.

-Bell.

I misunderstood sam's flip
I thought the friendly neighbor message was sent regardless of alignment

[SirCakez]

When Sequence also isn't reading the game LMAO

[SirCakez]

But Sam literally could not have acted last night????

[SirCakez]

Uhhhh can we elim Sequence now that they are trying to argue something impossible happened

[SirCakez]

?

obviously you didn't read how Sam's role worked and decided to try to make me look bad with it

[SirCakez]

why would Sam claim an action she literally could not do?

[SirCakez]

Sequence seems to be grasping at straws

[SirCakez]

I don't believe a word out of Sequence's mouth

[SirCakez]

Cakez seems deseperate to eliminate Sequence.

BECAUSE THEY ARE CLAIMED SCUM
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING ABOUT THIS

[SirCakez]

Lunar is open wolfing

[SirCakez]

I can be enticed off of Sequence only if a compelling scum case arises elsewhere

[SirCakez]

That's why if I see a decent case for scum elsewhere I'll leave Sequence
I think Lunar's play today is so bad that might be our best shot

[SirCakez]

Gamma claimed Roleblocked yesterday. I don't see that being something as possible, and combined with their claim and general activity, they should be limmed.

Or yeah Gamma can bite it because I agree this doesn't make much sense and Flea flipping town implies the original BROvert wagon is the right place

[SirCakez]

Or Nylaa can go too
I think I'm back to hesitant enough about Titus' role I would not elim there today.
Sequence pushing in Math and MC makes me not want to elim either.

So I'm left with a groupscum pool for elim of
(Gamma, Lunar, Nylaa)

[SirCakez]

Elements and Quiet = ???

[SirCakez]

I do wish MC was less passive here cuz all he's done today is push back against Sequence and not advanced anything of his own

[SirCakez]

I know I'm just saying I'm not sure what to think of either
Elements' jump on Angel was pretty scummy but at the time Koba left I was back to TRing them
Quiet has given us nothing but RA was awful yesterday as we all know

[SirCakez]

Yeah good point

[SirCakez]

And they don't make sense as scum with my other SRs

[SirCakez]

I think with what you said in mind it makes more sense that scum just hopped on for the ride with the Angel miselim

[SirCakez]

That's why if I see a decent case for scum elsewhere I'll leave Sequence
I think Lunar's play today is so bad that might be our best shot

Speaking of openwolfing.

Right now you sound like one of those little kids who keeps repeating themselves

[SirCakez]

Didn't Gamma claim rbed night 1?

[SirCakez]

Ok so this is a guilty from what I'm getting??

[SirCakez]

Cuz visiting yourself is not roleblocked

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Gamma

[SirCakez]

Although why wasn't the guilty claimed sooner?

This

[SirCakez]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[SirCakez]

No one has claimed they visited Gamma n1 so far right?

[SirCakez]

Hmm I forgot Angel claimed the triple redirect thing
Makes Gamma inno more of a possiblity?
UNVOTE:

[SirCakez]

Murder if you have results then it helps town to out that info. If you don't, stop alluding to having info. I don't have much stock in sequences reads but I did come into the day with you high enough in my poe to push you through.

Fine.

I tracked Bro N1 and got the result of "Gamma" which was pretty funny (because of replace out). At first I thought it was a guilty but then I thought maybe there was a redirect. I don't get where the redirect would have happened, which is why I needed a list of claims to try to sort it out. I don't think it was on me, I think it was more likely to be on Gamma to protect from stuff after D1 wagon? Hence my push there. That was the plan in the hood before Angels blew up.

N2 I was on R+A slot and saw nothing.

Happy?

Okay hold the fuck up
There’s no reason to distrust Angel at this point, and they said one of the factional abilities was a triple redirect
I think it has to be the case either I or MCat was redirected because I wouldn’t target myself with something

Why do scum do this night 1 tho?

[SirCakez]

Scum factional ability 1: triple redirection. Target two players and ant moves that target that X goes to Y and vice versa. This can be done three times a night

[SirCakez]

Why do I need to claim???

[SirCakez]

I can't wrap my head around this

[SirCakez]

May I offer Lunar and Nylaa scum team?

[SirCakez]

Wow it's been ages
Nylaa might get yeeted by Boon...
Gosh I hope not replacement finding has already been hard

[SirCakez]

VOTE: nylaa

[SirCakez]

I don't think we can get this wagon through today though
It seems like thread wants Gamma MC or Sequence

[SirCakez]

Join y'all this is definitely scum
Gamma is too shaky now that we don't know what fuckery happened night 1

[SirCakez]

Join y'all this is definitely scum
Gamma is too shaky now that we don't know what fuckery happened night 1

RE: Gamma, we know exactly what fuckery happened n1.

We don't know all the fuckery, but we know enough.

Can you ELI5?

[SirCakez]

Thanks I got it now

[SirCakez]

Why do scum do this night 1 tho?

To mess with stuff?
I mean I was kinda obvious with my softing so scum could have been scared of me? (sorry for thinking tracker would actually be good, nope triple redirect)

But Gamma was scummy with dayplay too that's why I was thinking of it as the possibility they did something to save him.

This raises a good point
Why was Gamma bus driven? To protect him as scum?
Or just to fuck with town's results?

[SirCakez]

quiet

Elements

SirCakez

Titus

Toogeloo

Gamma Emerald

Lunar Martian
Nylaathria

Sequence

RCEnigma

Murdercat
Mathblade

Town

Has reasons to not be in today's PoE

This makes too many assumptions about the game
Why is Gamma locked as town?
Why are Sequence and RCE off the table?

[SirCakez]

quiet

Elements

SirCakez

Titus

Toogeloo

Gamma Emerald

Lunar Martian
Nylaathria

Sequence

RCEnigma

Murdercat
Mathblade

Town

Has reasons to not be in today's PoE

This makes too many assumptions about the game
Why is Gamma locked as town?
Why are Sequence and RCE off the table?

You sure are complaining a lot for getting a PoE that looks like your alleged reads.

We already went through the night action resolution that clears Gamma. Either fight it or accept it. Don't shade it from the side.

Sequence isn't groupscum and it's the lhf to try and keep the scumpool open as long as possible.

Unwnd being the night 1 kill is less likely in a scum RCE world.

Ok whatever no point arguing on this when we agree on scumreads
Let's yeet Nylaa

[SirCakez]

Urgh this game is making my brain hurt
Lunar's Nylaa vote was really bad
Titus can you elaborate on Sequence targeting Math?

[SirCakez]

Did Sequence maybe target MC?

[SirCakez]

Titus should be safe to rolecop tonight with the factional abilities gone

[SirCakez]

Titus' role does fit with town though? We have yet to have any town direct investigatives (i;e not tracker/watcher but actual directly checking a player roles) flip.

[SirCakez]

oh wait Nylaa's role was a direct investigative
hmmm

[SirCakez]

If Lunar is town who is scum in the hood?

[SirCakez]

I'm convinced there is scum in that vanilla hood or whatever RA kept talking about

[SirCakez]

Titus basically claimed what Nylaa did but rolecop instead of vanilla cop
She is probably scum

[SirCakez]

If Lunar is town who is scum in the hood?

@Toog

[SirCakez]

I am a Basilisk
My role is Villager (just Named Townie)
I guess for weird interactions with Nylaa's role

[SirCakez]

thus why I have been so confused about all the VT shit this game

[SirCakez]

Titus/Lunar/Gamma/???

[SirCakez]

God maybe Math is scum

[SirCakez]

what clears quiet and elements?

[SirCakez]

I believe Murder's claim

[SirCakez]

anyone with doubts about Lunar scum here needs to go back and read his day three
it was AWFUL

[SirCakez]

can someone do a hood map or something? there's like five and I can't get them straight

[SirCakez]

I guess MURDERCAT is off the table now, so we'll
UNVOTE:
for now.

With regards to Nylaa, I'm kinda ambivalent. If that's the direction we go, then sure, I'll act with the general consensus, but I'm not overly fond of it and am a little weary of it.
~Ircher

VOTE: murdercat

That's a decent reason to vote Murdercat.

Titus you said this and your claim sorta doesn't fit with MC
Why aren't you voting him?

[SirCakez]

Titus who did you visit and why?

I am a two shot non consecutive rolecop. I held my shot last night because of bus driver wifom. So no one.

I visited Titus last night and got "No result" which was explicitly different from the "You see nothing" I got with R+A track

You were probably roleblocked.

Ftr I think Tracker is an investigative, thus why I don't think Titus and MC's claims both fit with the Nylaa flip.

[SirCakez]

Yeah ok Gamma can die

[SirCakez]

Preferred elims Lunar > Gamma > Titus > Math

[SirCakez]

what clears quiet and elements?

[SirCakez]

Lunar claimed VT ya?

[SirCakez]

Scum obviously have to bus at this point

[SirCakez]

Preferred elims Lunar > Gamma > Titus > Math

That order's not going to happen.

Ok then give me something to work with

[SirCakez]

who is? my preference is not that strong (but it is annoying me because I find Lunar's play the last two days to be extremely scummy)
but whatever scum is scum

[SirCakez]

Right now, I lean leaning Gamma, Murdercat, Quiet, and Cakez as my scumpool.

Talk with me more about Murdercat. I think his claim is absolute BS.

I have a problem with how Murdercat got a result that said Gamma.

No one claims to have visited Gamma.
No one claims to be the roleblocker.

We suppose that scum roleblocker wound up targeting Gamma.

In order for Murdercat to see that visit, the roleblocker would have to be swapped with Gamma.

Therefore, the roleblocker would have to self target in his submission to make MURDERCAT's story work.

This baffles me

[SirCakez]

Am I being just totally thickheaded here, or is there not the other possibility that a remaining scum is an unclaimed RB?

What do you mean? I think everyone has claimed.

[SirCakez]

Yeah quiet I'm pretty sure scum rb is hiding, if it exists

[SirCakez]

MC we don't have room for info elims at this point

[SirCakez]

My solve is looking like Titus/Gamma/Lunar/Math with Math swappable with maybe quiet or elements

[SirCakez]

Ok then help me bus Titus

[SirCakez]

My solve is looking like Titus/Gamma/Lunar/Math with Math swappable with maybe quiet or elements

Then why aren't you voting to try and either eliminate Math or voting me?

Cuz it's probably LyLo why would I be voting

[SirCakez]

Since neither Math or MC have been hammered either they are scum or the wagon on then is all scum
Assuming 4 scum

[SirCakez]

So MC from your PoV if you are town then Elements and Math are both confscum unless you think three scum
Same for Mathblade with Toog and Lunar

[SirCakez]

Actually Toog is like a universal townread
That points to Math scum I think

[SirCakez]

Can't we extend that logic to SirCakes? either Titus scum, or SirCakes must be?

Yeah but it's been less time
Although I just think Titus is scum anyways

[SirCakez]

you think three scum

I think this is a real possibility and I don't understand why everyone is assuming 4 scum. I'm wary of it, but I'm also not conf scumming anyone off it

Usually 3 scum for a 13p game
This is a 16p so I lean more towards 4 scum then 3

[SirCakez]

And there are a ton of power roles

[SirCakez]

I'm definitely open to Math with the VCA I just did but wdym confscum with 3 mafia?

[SirCakez]

I'm definitely open to Math with the VCA I just did but wdym confscum with 3 mafia?

There are two votes on Math. Toog is obvTown. I'm Town. Mafia would quickhammer.

Ok from your PoV but you are still a major scumspect for me

[SirCakez]

Oh yeah and what Gamma said lol

[SirCakez]

I'm definitely open to Math with the VCA I just did but wdym confscum with 3 mafia?

There are two votes on Math. Toog is obvTown. I'm Town. Mafia would quickhammer.

Ok from your PoV but you are still a major scumspect for me

Referring to this Gamma?
It's a neutral comment disregarding my read on Lunar.

[SirCakez]

I think if Math is scum then there has to be a scum in Elements and MC as well.
If Elements and MC were both town then MC would be hammered
Assuming four scum

[SirCakez]

Usually 3 scum for a 13p game
This is a 16p so I lean more towards 4 scum then 3

scum has huge power though and even if the 3p potentially helps town it is strictly worse than a townie, no?

Yeah but that 3p could remove a ton of scum power

[SirCakez]

Actually Toog is like a universal townread
That points to Math scum I think

Not seeing anything disproving this

[SirCakez]

Same
The vote count argument is the strongest for me, after seeing a six-person scum team come together to miselim in Tenet I can't see how Math is still alive here.
I can buy that both Elements and Math are scum on MC.
I can't buy that both Toog and Lunar are scum on Math.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: math
Nothing left to say

[SirCakez]

^ maths scum buddy

[SirCakez]

If you think Math is town still then both Lunar and Toog should be confscum from your PoV

[SirCakez]

If you think Math is town still then both Lunar and Toog should be confscum from your PoV

Not if it's not elo. Toog might be town. I'm not sure who the third scum is.

If its ELO and you think Math is town then Lunar and Toog literally have to be scum or the game would be over

[SirCakez]

Titus, who is your scum team guess in the case of 3/4 scum? No variables, I want a solid answer.

SirCakez Lunar quiet
Sircakez Lunar quiet Elements (although I waffle with Toog here)

Like your 4p team here is not possible Toog would have to be in it

[SirCakez]

If you think Math is town still then both Lunar and Toog should be confscum from your PoV

Not if it's not elo. Toog might be town. I'm not sure who the third scum is.

If its ELO and you think Math is town then Lunar and Toog literally have to be scum or the game would be over

That's wrong.

Scum may not be able to coordinate a quickhammer.

I don't believe that given what i just saw in Tenet with a six person scumteam in different time zones

[SirCakez]

I just have nothing more to say, waiting on Boon for the flip

[SirCakez]

Can you elaborate?

[SirCakez]

Can you elaborate?

Elements and I tried to get MURDERCAT to elaborate on who I should rolecop.

He said he would not play the "wifom game".

So MC is not confscum then you're just spouting stuff
I just want to vote Titus here but too quick for hammer
I really want to hear from quiet and Elements

[SirCakez]

Vote Count 4.03

Mathblade [2]: Toogeloo, Lunar Martian
Murdercat [2]: Elements, Mathblade
SirCakez [1]: Titus

Not Voting [4]:

quiet, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, Murdercat,

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to fade.

The

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on

February 10th

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Mod Notes:

This is the key VC

[SirCakez]

@MC Elements should be confscum from your PoV no?
Or you'd be dead and game would be over
Unless you think three scum

[SirCakez]

I think Titus also has to be scum because she was voting me for a while but scum didn't hammer

[SirCakez]

i have only skimmed the last few pages but I basically still just want to elim Titus
Elements looks a lot worse, in my mind

[SirCakez]

Also this is me not hammering

[SirCakez]

So Titus is scum or all of (Lunar, Elements, MC) are scum
Unless quiet and Gamma just haven't checked recently

[SirCakez]

So MC is not confscum then you're just spouting stuff
I just want to vote Titus here but too quick for hammer
I really want to hear from quiet and Elements

What do you want my take on?

Is 5946 a townslip from Lunar? Assuming a vanilla read = a town read?
Why does scum!Lunar tunnel push Math from day1, from before they replaced in?

who is your scum pool rn?
I know everyone else's pretty well

[SirCakez]

cakes i cannot remember

i'm a villager, named VT

[SirCakez]

I think I was wrong about Lunar and it's just (Titus, Elements, Gamma)

[SirCakez]

murdercat just doesn't make sense as scum here with what we know about the setup
also his play has been way townier then most everyone else who is left

[SirCakez]

How could there be only three scum? This is 16p with a shitload of town power.

[SirCakez]

So Titus is confirmed scum at this point
Everyone not currently voting Titus has checked the thread and there hasn't been a hammer

Either that or everyone voting Titus is scum

[SirCakez]

???????
There's like eight dead town all with positive power roles (the exception being Toog) + a pro town third party + you and MC both claiming strong power roles

[SirCakez]

intent

[SirCakez]

Actually nah I think everyone has said their piece and like MC said this just can't be town

VOTE: titus

[SirCakez]

What the fuck
We thought it was Titus all game and then Elements towards the end
We couldn't understand why MC was not getting hammered LOL

[SirCakez]

lol cake how did you miss my crumb to you

I'm blind I ALWAYS miss crumbs

[SirCakez]

MC my pocket is open for you

I will literally never TR you this game lol

!!!!

I thought this was legit because you were paranoid after I snowed you in Among Us

[SirCakez]

I think this game was pretty tainted but I'm just glad I finally secured a scum win after two mega fails in Xeno 2 and Among Us

[SirCakez]

This game was nearly a disaster...
Gamma and I planned a quickhammer on MC at one point...

[SirCakez]

I liked Titus's Mole crumb

[SirCakez]

who were you Ydrasse?

[SirCakez]

nice

[SirCakez]

I mean he got through Tenet just fine