TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Datisi]

most others could use however many, math is difficult. i just want something to happen and my standards for a Good Wagon are getting low.

[Aristophanes]

most others could use however many, math is difficult. i just want something to happen and my standards for a Good Wagon are getting low.

Yeah, I get this.

I'll do Isis I guess and see what I can come up with to help us out here.

[The Bulge]

Like I've read bits and I have a readslist I could post but some of the reads, like yours, have mostly stayed consistent because there simply hasn't been movement in what I've read that has given me reason to change them.

what makes you say my reads have stayed consistent? I had 2 scumreads Day 1. one flipped VT and the other is now a top townread of mine. I really don't like the inclusion of "like yours" here and I want an explanation.

No no, I mean my read on some slots, like yours, has stayed consistent lol

hahaha I was hoping you had an actual reason for that that I wasn't seeing. like come on man you're better than that lol. ok yes gotcha

[The Bulge]

what are your thoughts on the current wagons?

ari could use 3 more votes. deas could use 4 more.

yea, so, like

?

[Aristophanes]

hahaha I was hoping you had an actual reason for that that I wasn't seeing. like come on man you're better than that lol. ok yes gotcha

I am. You're right!

What a good hype man

Okay, I'll get to this.
Thanks!

[The Bulge]

most others could use however many, math is difficult. i just want something to happen and my standards for a Good Wagon are getting low.

Yeah, I get this.

I'll do Isis I guess and see what I can come up with to help us out here.

we can do literally anyone except Isis!!!!!!

[xRECKONERx]

what do you mean by 'overall reaction'

I originally said "reactions" which would imply that there are specific reactions that set me off, but it's more like the overall impact on the gamestate. and I guess lack of some reactions. you yourself said at one point that you were basically just waiting for my reevaluation post, but all I can gather from our interactions since then is that you looked at my readslist (and I know you looked in the spoiler, yet no direct responses). in fact none of my scumreads interacted more than a scratch with it, and those who did interact directly with me I very much expected and would absolutely have been pinged if they hadn't (datisi sort of has to say something about it regardless of alignment, ydrasse was present in the thread at the time, hectic imo has been casting a wider net than any other player this game). if my reads are trash then idk what to think of it all, but surely more people of either alignment would be disagreeing/picking them apart/pushing me. but if I'm right, then I'd still expect some kind of shoveback? or push? idk I put out more content in that post than I have all game, I'm sure it's not airtight. the fact that it kinda came and went without any of that feels weird to me, like nobody is going to bother and I'm just going to be picked off at night.

OH. i see.

i mean i didn't really push back bc most of the stuff you threw at me was like, loose associatives, which... can't be proven or disproven any specific way. there really wasn't anything to grapple w/ i guess but if there's a point you WANT me to respond to i can? I just kinda read it and was like "ok well Bulge is off base but he's agreeing w/ me on Ari so whatever", I don't think it makes you scum or town it's just kinda there

part of me also feels like this game is... under a spell of apathy. like both ari and ydrasse have promised catchups and getting engaged and just aren't. sirius has done nothing all game. hectic has faded out into the background. creature has faded out. xof is keeping up xof levels of activity. adorable has become a less frequent poster today. tbh the only people ive seen TRY to engage today with any sort of effort are myself and you and datisi i guess? at least the only people that left any sort of impression

i think the d1 dunk on the AFK scum probably demoralized the scumteam a bit and let town get lazy, which is why there's just no friction atm. nothing to grab onto.

i think scum probably sat back and said "lets play it quiet today" and couple that with some afk/unengagement on town's side and yeah, we're here now.

[Datisi]

yea, so, like

?

i don't get what you're asking me.

both deas and ari have some vague things that make them somewhat less likely to be partnered with rce. but the issue is that that's true for almost everyone. there's like... 2 and a half players in this game that i don't want to see dead.

[Aristophanes]

most others could use however many, math is difficult. i just want something to happen and my standards for a Good Wagon are getting low.

Yeah, I get this.

I'll do Isis I guess and see what I can come up with to help us out here.

we can do literally anyone except Isis!!!!!!

O.o

I can't even blame autocorrect because I'm at my computer.
Uh....

Ya Iunno what to say here tbh XD

[Aristophanes]

Isos*

I definitely meant Isos XD

[Ydrasse]

i'm not really into the idea of a deas-vote right now. maybe i'm put off about how creature talked about his game; the way he was being represented versus his actual content feels worlds apart which feels pretty fuckin bad when it comes to voting him.

[Datisi]

ydrasse who do you want to vote

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

don't tell anyone this but i would vote sirius because my read on him won't ever be able to come from content just vibes and while i love a good vibe check, i don't wanna deal with it down the road. i love you sirius tho

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse who do you want to vote

i want to say sirius just to get it done and over with but like, it feels like a policy elim despite what i ujst said

how do you feel about creature/ari/reck, in that order of wanting to wagon atm? maybe the bulge, but i also need to read Something first so put a tack in them.

[Ydrasse]

that's vague but also like, half this game could probably flip scum atm and it wouldn't feel surprising

[Ydrasse]

removing the tack from bulge now, not a wagon that's on the table; i hadn't read the reply wrt them talking about how they were maybe gonna be nked which made me go ? because like... why would you when i feel a lot of people have had some degree of suspicion there. answer's good tho

[Sirius9121]

(‘-‘)

[Datisi]

creature/ari/reck

no/sure/no

[Ydrasse]

ergh

at some point i'll read this game as a whole instead of chopping it up into isos

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: aristophanes

skimmed for sirius in his iso after he said he was down to kill sirius which like, hypocrite here, but i just don't like ari saying it. LMAO. feels like sirius has always sort of been on the table for him which is... it feels like he's been building up to be able to vote this when it's the easiest thing that someone could do this game, wagon-wise.

[Datisi]

ydrasse why are you town?

[Aristophanes]

but i also need to read Something first so put a tack in them.

I had to do a doublecheck that Something_Smart hadn't replaced into this game XD

[Datisi]

considering he's on my team, that would be a bit problematic

[Ydrasse]

meh

the towniest thing i can give you is my d1 until i get more and more into this game post-mental-block that i am melting away, and was the counterwagon to scum. it was literally only me getting that enraged to the point and proving i had fight in me that i wasn't gonna be an easy route for them to go down that i feel i've done anything exceptional

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: aristophanes

skimmed for sirius in his iso after he said he was down to kill sirius which like, hypocrite here, but i just don't like ari saying it. LMAO. feels like sirius has always sort of been on the table for him which is... it feels like he's been building up to be able to vote this when it's the easiest thing that someone could do this game, wagon-wise.

What a weak as fuck vote.
I have sirius on the table because they're literally a nothing slot that doesn't look like it's going to change and I'd rather just nuke it now than have to deal with this in an ELo situation.

Also, "Ari's kinda always said they'd vote Sirius so I don't like them saying they'll do it if it is an option" is fucking dumb.

Sure, it would be easy. Maybe that's part of the appeal for a slot with as much engagement in the game as I have. Maybe I also want to nuke a slot that could totally be scumbut nodoby would ever know because they're purposefully useless?

This is dumb.