Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)


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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:46 pm

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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:49 pm

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In post 1394, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1390, Isis wrote:i maybe need to read the setup because this is adjacent enough to role madness that like, the next person that gets run up claims PR too much of the time anyway and it's silly, maybe
Why would you not read the setup? It’s a randomly generated setup and understanding how it’s created seems somewhat important for people who care about that stuff - not me.

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skipped reading the setup right away to have like a more carefree approach to the game and towngleam better, something like that. It was at least a half conscious choice I made early on

i have some bias from hating setups like this and all but like it was mostly for wincon or mood optimzation reasons

which is not disconnected actually reading the shitty setup would make me mad. rather predictably i forgot this has an SK what year is it
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:50 pm

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Hmmm - that’s not what I would have expected.

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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:51 pm

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what did you expect?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:52 pm

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In post 1398, Shirou wrote:so you're saying intelectually there's likely scum in the nullish/negleted slots? because there's not many consensus town reads and I don't think people are "town reading everyone except some names"
not really
i'm more making an observation that i don't think scum is in the places everyone is kinda settling on

i don't necessarily have a solution fwiw

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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:52 pm

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as with many day phases the key to maximizing this dayphase is to convince ourselves we are going to do something more interesting than policying NotMafia, then generate info in that environment that actually has stakes, but then sometime before the end of the day relapse into policying N_M so the day2 vote has 2 days worth of dayplay informing it and 11 active players
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:53 pm

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In post 1403, Isis wrote:what did you expect?
Idk - I thought you would be one to more gravitate to understanding the setup so I’m a bit confused.

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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:53 pm

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that's a townie post from isis- 1401 to clarify

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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:54 pm

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In post 1404, Bridgeburners wrote:@penguin, you're forgetting your Ponglin nickname
I am explicitly not.

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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:54 pm

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it's kind of like how on those nickelodeon game shows where round 1 is worth 300 points, round 2 is worth 500 points, and round 3 is worth 1000 points, the key to an exciting and interesting taping of the episode is that the children be too ignorant and foolish to do stretches during rounds 1 and 2 instead of screaming about comebacks.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:55 pm

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In post 1407, Bridgeburners wrote:that's a townie post from isis- 1401 to clarify

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i went back and read the numberings on my posts and that was the least fun/spicy, most plausible post for that to be about QQ
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:57 pm

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ok let's do it then

VOTE: nm

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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:58 pm

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In post 1409, Isis wrote:it's kind of like how on those nickelodeon game shows where round 1 is worth 300 points, round 2 is worth 500 points, and round 3 is worth 1000 points, the key to an exciting and interesting taping of the episode is that the children be too ignorant and foolish to do stretches during rounds 1 and 2 instead of screaming about comebacks.
In post 652, Isis wrote:I'll connect with you about something one day PP I swear it
It has happened.

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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:03 pm

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In post 1406, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1403, Isis wrote:what did you expect?
Idk - I thought you would be one to more gravitate to understanding the setup so I’m a bit confused.

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I don't think I've ever gotten this far this ignorant about a setup ever. I don't think that's alignment indicative though I really liked tinkering with the mechanics in Apocalypse, I wrote an actual software program and lied about what the results were in Death List.

one thing I hate is that the rules for setup construction don't let you like, -feel- how likely each subsetup is, i can read these rules and then press the button and get 4 K's and you could be like "is that a remarkable result?" and I'd say "I don't fucking know, I've never never internalized 10%*(seven choose 4) before", if it's a setup drawing balls from urns or throwing dice or drawing cards to generate I can feel it because I do those things and they're shorthand.

so anyway that kills my excitement a lot. There's a reason digital trading card games use a deck of cards with 1.0/decksize chance to draw even though it's digital and it could be 1.2 or 0.7 for the special cards or whatever else. Because the digital trading card games aren't designed for the fucking moderator
I have no idea where this mood is coming from
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:03 pm

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2 pedits
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:03 pm

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...

I thought Isis would say something useful and I'm disappointed with what I got

I would like a refund
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:04 pm

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ok i really need to finish reading the last 2 pages tho
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:05 pm

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i actually maybe don't tr shirou

between shirou and sec-hyd i think sec-hyd is always townier

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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:05 pm

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what would be useful to you shirou, should i ramble for 3 pages about read confidence nihilism
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 1413, Isis wrote:one thing I hate is that the rules for setup construction don't let you like, -feel- how likely each subsetup is, i can read these rules and then press the button and get 4 K's and you could be like "is that a remarkable result?" and I'd say "I don't fucking know, I've never never internalized 10%*(seven choose 4) before", if it's a setup drawing balls from urns or throwing dice or drawing cards to generate I can feel it because I do those things and they're shorthand
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:07 pm

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shirou has posted much townie but he attacked my weak need to be loved :(
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:07 pm

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I thought you would explain your votes early and if you were coming to the conclusion of something
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:08 pm

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I was like "ok those naked votes are maybe town!Isis passive reading the game, fishing for something in the gamestate, etc"

but like, I think you were just being kinda random or something?

I don't know by this point Isis.
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:09 pm

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In post 1417, Bridgeburners wrote:i actually maybe don't tr shirou
why not actually out of curiosity

I'm not interested in talking if I deserve or not to be town read
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:10 pm

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In post 1420, Isis wrote:shirou has posted much townie but he attacked my weak need to be loved :(
has not*
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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