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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:49 pm

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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:50 pm

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low prio but also peta when you get the chance talk to me about how you think the imp wagon began
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 1722, Schiavetto wrote:good votes, prefer them vastly to the SS wagon
Why’s that?
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 1723, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1567, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1564, Shirou wrote:I'm interested in your reasons for the vote though.
PP has felt more useless than he usually does, to the point where I was pretty surprised to see that he had 144 posts.

Very roughly, my impression of his towngame is that he makes snarky comments that are sometimes productive or good points, and as scum he fades into the background more. He's been present, but not really doing much that feels like it will advance the game, aside from voting/campaigning for votes which is pretty easy for scum to do.
In post 1724, PenguinPower wrote:s_s is hard to read so I don’t know if he really believes that or not despite being wrong.
right that's all well and good but it's been pages of (tiresome) back and forth over A Variety of Topics of Various Levels of Interest and i'd've preferred to hear from SS why he lands on you here rather than imp/aaron
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:55 pm

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Riiight - and quoting his exact words is not hearing from SS why landed on me.

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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 1727, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1722, Schiavetto wrote:good votes, prefer them vastly to the SS wagon
Why’s that?
because as much as i disliked ben, and as much as i've disliked SS's recovery of the slot, i'm still not 100% willing to look past the claim atm (i still don't think i've seen anyone try and reconcile it w/ his initial panic @ being voted), and i think at this point an imp/aaron flip is more generative
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:01 pm

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Right - that wasn’t my point. Why if AFF a good vote when you (seemingly) prefer implosion?
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 1729, PenguinPower wrote:Riiight - and quoting his exact words is not hearing from SS why landed on me.

got it.
cool, as long as we're doing the snark thing
In post 1728, Schiavetto wrote:rather than imp/aaron
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:02 pm

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I mean - it’s somewhat weird to be pushing a specific wagon and then cheering on people for voting not that wagon.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 1732, Schiavetto wrote:
In post 1729, PenguinPower wrote:Riiight - and quoting his exact words is not hearing from SS why landed on me.

got it.
cool, as long as we're doing the snark thing
In post 1728, Schiavetto wrote:rather than imp/aaron
yeah - it’s amazing that someone gives a reason and people expect that to be the stated reason.

Amazing.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:04 pm

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In post 1724, PenguinPower wrote:s_s is hard to read so I don’t know if he really believes that or not despite being wrong.
feel like u look pushable from a scum pov
In post 1726, Schiavetto wrote:low prio but also peta when you get the chance talk to me about how you think the imp wagon began
i meant to look into it more but i forgot
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:05 pm

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In post 1735, petapan wrote:feel like u look pushable from a scum pov
Wut?
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 1731, PenguinPower wrote:Right - that wasn’t my point. Why if AFF a good vote when you (seemingly) prefer implosion?
I shifted off Aaron when it started feeling like a dead end several pages back and went with imp, whom i also read & who looked more viable
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 1734, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1732, Schiavetto wrote:
In post 1729, PenguinPower wrote:Riiight - and quoting his exact words is not hearing from SS why landed on me.

got it.
cool, as long as we're doing the snark thing
In post 1728, Schiavetto wrote:rather than imp/aaron
yeah - it’s amazing that someone gives a reason and people expect that to be the stated reason.

Amazing.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:07 pm

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Honestly shouldn't've the first time.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:09 pm

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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 1737, Schiavetto wrote:
In post 1731, PenguinPower wrote:Right - that wasn’t my point. Why if AFF a good vote when you (seemingly) prefer implosion?
and went with imp, whom i also read & who looked more viable
I assume there is a “and found scummy for [reasons]” in there somewhere.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 1736, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1735, petapan wrote:feel like u look pushable from a scum pov
Wut?
i think scum would look at you as someone they could push by going "hEs NoT dOiNg AnYtHiNg" so in that sense him pushing you is scummy
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 1741, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1737, Schiavetto wrote:
In post 1731, PenguinPower wrote:Right - that wasn’t my point. Why if AFF a good vote when you (seemingly) prefer implosion?
and went with imp, whom i also read & who looked more viable
I assume there is a “and found scummy for [reasons]” in there somewhere.
i mean hes given more reasons for scumreading implo than u tbh
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 1742, petapan wrote:
In post 1736, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1735, petapan wrote:feel like u look pushable from a scum pov
Wut?
i think scum would look at you as someone they could push by going "hEs NoT dOiNg AnYtHiNg" so in that sense him pushing you is scummy
Meh - scum!ss would know that I’m not an easy push in early game so it would be weird for him to start a wagon on me especially considering that he usually restricts voting D1.

Counterpoint: he has openly broke that meta. That said, still seems weird.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 1743, petapan wrote:i mean hes given more reasons for scumreading implo than u tbh
Maybe? Must be in a wall somewhere.

That wasn’t my point. Ooooh - can I do a Schiavetto now?

i'd've preferred to hear from Schiavetto on that question.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:24 pm

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In post 1745, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1743, petapan wrote:i mean hes given more reasons for scumreading implo than u tbh
Maybe? Must be in a wall somewhere.

That wasn’t my point. Ooooh - can I do a Schiavetto now?

i'd've preferred to hear from Schiavetto on that question.
this is actually me pivoting to asking why you're voting implosion
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 1741, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1737, Schiavetto wrote:
In post 1731, PenguinPower wrote:Right - that wasn’t my point. Why if AFF a good vote when you (seemingly) prefer implosion?
and went with imp, whom i also read & who looked more viable
I assume there is a “and found scummy for [reasons]” in there somewhere.
Yeah, I've given reasons on both over the course of the thread but basically my issue with imp is that i see them as playing very hands off in a way that lends itself to a lot of revisionism &w/ aaron the substanceless posts.

Still no idea where the energy in 1729 is coming from, but to be clear: i guess it came across as being snippety, but I very much meant what i said in 1728, i had been hoping to hear from SS themselves. I don't really agree with peta that you're
pushable
for scum necessarily, but the vanity wagon against two maybe divisive opposing wagons looked off and it's the sort of thing you hope someone maybe gives a bit of insight into when given the opportunity to
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:27 pm

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Seems like you could have just asked that then.

Good wagon at the time - don’t really feel like moving to a different one atm.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 1748, PenguinPower wrote:Seems like you could have just asked that then.

Good wagon at the time - don’t really feel like moving to a different one atm.
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