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[Bridgeburners]

But are you actually town leaning me or are you just noping out of reading me until Day X if I'm still alive by there and this is a political stance?

Yes

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

if you want to talk about something go ahead, but i'm not sure i have any burning questions to ask you right now

ig i'm a little concerned by ur slot rn - i think in the three prior games i played with u i was able to get a p decent bead on town!you fairly fast but here i'm just not getting those vibes; you feel very underwhelming and like mechanical almost rn, and i don't really like your takes

i also want you to explain the WIM post a bit more, if you can

~ skitteR

[Shirou]

VOTE: Aaron Frost

E-1?

E-2?

I don't know.

[implosion]

I'm skeptical that it's right to characterize the switch to AFF as sudden. Like yeah the wagon sprung pretty fast but my and s_s's wagons and the gamestate in general had been stalling for a while.

[PenguinPower]

Quite interesting

[Something_Smart]

right that's all well and good but it's been pages of (tiresome) back and forth over A Variety of Topics of Various Levels of Interest and i'd've preferred to hear from SS why he lands on you here rather than imp/aaron

The post that PP quoted is still current. I'm not aware of the reasons implosion and Aaron are being wagoned.

[Something_Smart]

feel like u look pushable from a scum pov

You do remember the last time I tried to push *anyone* as scum, right?

It was someone eminently more pushable than PP is here, and it backfired on me horribly.

[implosion]

It's not like you're actually committing to a push on P_P, you discussed him a little and voted him. i just looked at your iso to double check that you didn't constantly talk about him and the first thing i saw is you literally said you're not committing to it when you voted him

[Shirou]

If SS is scum, I would like at least 30% ~ 35% of the credits. I would suggest 50% but I've replaced-in too late, and there's Datisi as well.

If Aaron is scum, I'm fine with crumbs, around 5% or 8% would be sufficient, I did have him in my early posts after all.

If Implo is scum, it's fine I'm gonna go sit in the wall of shame.

[Bridgeburners]

i'm reasonably confident ss is town and don't want to flip him today

~ skitteR

[PenguinPower]

It's not like you're actually committing to a push on P_P, you discussed him a little and voted him. i just looked at your iso to double check that you didn't constantly talk about him and the first thing i saw is you literally said you're not committing to it when you voted him

S_S doesn’t think he can actually push me here which is why it’s interesting.

[Something_Smart]

no i think he's townie

elaborate?

[PenguinPower]

S_S - pretend I’m confirmed town. who’s scum?

[Something_Smart]

it was related to his comment about NM's meta, one of the reasons I wanted to flip SS was also to know if I was right on my initial read

I know, it sounds selfish

...you're impatient enough that you're willing to not play to wincon to satisfy it?

[Bridgeburners]

I'm interested in your reasons for the vote though.

PP has felt more useless than he usually does, to the point where I was pretty surprised to see that he had 144 posts.

Very roughly, my impression of his towngame is that he makes snarky comments that are sometimes productive or good points, and as scum he fades into the background more. He's been present, but not really doing much that feels like it will advance the game, aside from voting/campaigning for votes which is pretty easy for scum to do.

i think you have this like half-right, in that he does tend to fade into the background more as scum.
but (and this is a big but), he doesn't do the voting/campaigning for votes really as scum (or at the very least, doesn't have his heart in it and it's very going-through-the-motions-y). the fact that he is now is very +town imo

~ skitteR

[Something_Smart]

It's not like you're actually committing to a push on P_P, you discussed him a little and voted him. i just looked at your iso to double check that you didn't constantly talk about him and the first thing i saw is you literally said you're not committing to it when you voted him

okay so why did you say I thought he was pushable if you don't think I'm pushing him

[Shirou]

it was related to his comment about NM's meta, one of the reasons I wanted to flip SS was also to know if I was right on my initial read

I know, it sounds selfish

...you're impatient enough that you're willing to not play to wincon to satisfy it?

No I do think you're more likely scum than not?

But if given Aaron or you, I always flip you first.

I'm also impatient enough that I do BoP propositions to get wagons, so partially.

[Something_Smart]

S_S doesn’t think he can actually push me here which is why it’s interesting.

I mean, I could push you. I don't think it would really benefit anyone.

[PenguinPower]

S_S doesn’t think he can actually push me here which is why it’s interesting.

I mean, I could push you. I don't think it would really benefit anyone.

Least of all you (i also don’t think you could).

Move on to my next question. Plskthx.

[Something_Smart]

he doesn't do the voting/campaigning for votes really as scum

I'll take your word for this. You're certainly more attentive to meta than I am.
UNVOTE:

[Something_Smart]

S_S - pretend I’m confirmed town. who’s scum?

No clue.

[PenguinPower]

Meh

[PenguinPower]

SkitteR....why? S_S is underwheming and he.is.voting.

[Bridgeburners]

he feels more confident and stubborn than he does as scum really
and more, like, ~into the game~ than i've seen him as scum

i'll try to articulate it better
~ skitteR

[PenguinPower]

Nah - that’s fine for now. I’m not really looking to vote him.