Newbie 2055: City Lights [game over!]

[KittyTacky]

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Well... sort of does. Sure I could be a scum bussing. Anyone pushing a scumread on someone else could be (unless confirmed town somehow). But you

were

acting legitimately sus.

It's late where I live, I think tomorrow I'll trawl through the thread so far and post my reads on people.

[team rocket queen]

either of you evaluating whether everyone else should think you are partnered together or not

is, uh

???

[flow trap]

I always act sus (to people I haven't played with before anyways), and I don't think mafia busses off of the one reason you provided

[flow trap]

either of you evaluating whether everyone else should think you are partnered together or not

is, uh

???

I evaluate myself sometimes

[team rocket queen]

I always act sus (to people I haven't played with before anyways),

have you tried not doing so though?

[team rocket queen]

I always act sus (to people I haven't played with before anyways),

have you tried not doing so though?

like if you are aware of it and what is causing that, what is the benefit?

[flow trap]

I always act sus (to people I haven't played with before anyways),

have you tried not doing so though?

Yes, it doesn't work

[team rocket queen]

Yes, it doesn't work

is there a reason you're ignoring vasex's questions towards you but replying to kittytacky and me?

[flow trap]

Yes, it doesn't work

is there a reason you're ignoring vasex's questions towards you but replying to kittytacky and me?

I'm replying to both, but it takes longer for theirs

[team rocket queen]

I'm replying to both, but it takes longer for theirs

fair, i will patiently await

[flow trap]

I don't know how to answer the first question though

[team rocket queen]

I don't know how to answer the first question though

i assume it's just looking for like your perspective to see why you

seem to make it harder for others

rather than easier

as there is little town benefit

not that a lot of other players do not similarly make it harder

[flow trap]

I don't try to

[Vasex]

FBJim, what do you think about floo?

[FBJim]

nil/soft town on floo. posts so far have been constructive and i go soft town on the tone, but the low activity level isn't making it easier to draw any conclusions.

i guess low activity on day one could be suspicious, but i dont think lurking enough to get publicly prodded is a good scum move since it specifically draws attention to the lurking, defeating the point of it.

[Vasex]

The thing is, that
If you are a scum
and
If fairyprincess69 and KittyTacky are townies, according only to the HUB's opinion,
Then
you are most likely mafia with Floo.

Because you are probably not in pair with the others except these three persons.

NOTE: I don't know how popular here to destroy your partners from the very beginning, so I proceed on the assumption that this is not so common phenomenon everywhere, especially in Newbie games.

[Vasex]

With flow trap you have a moment of "not a pair" here: "flow trap, i'd like to hear a bit about why you shouldn't be voted. bad reasons are fine with me, it's page 2 and multiple players haven't posted." + "Because I'm a PR " + "well, fair is fair, i did ask for a bad reason"
I can't believe that you could make such a perfomance with your mafia partner. There is still a small chance, but...

With Ydrasse you have moments of "not a pair" here: "Ydrasse's posting but relative non-activity is more concerning to me than the non-posters right now" + "also, is there anyone that you townread right now? it looks like you've been casting doubt on players thus far."

With trq you have moments of "not a pair" here (from her side):"go on", "pick a direction for us (etc in her post)"

Happy Unbirthday Boon has strong voting against you from the beginning (even before his vote) and many questions to you.

Trq and HUB are not so strong examples, but I allow these unpairs for now because of lack of info.

fairyprincess69, KittyTacky and Floo are the rest.
The first two can be townies because of HUB's opinion and I don't see strong problems with that after reading them (it is not so cosy for mafia to suspect PR-flow trap, they'd better kill him at night, but these two people are not shy about that from the entrance, same cannot be said about you).

So you and floo are in the remainder.

And he is soft town to you after the direct question, and you have no talking with him at all.

[floo]

The response to the first quote ("knows mafia must talk! to seem towny") is not saying anything helpful.

it was connected to the response to the second quote;

IMO both of the posts you quote are NAI

eh, no posts are actually non-alignment indicative; every post either comes from an informed perspective or it doesn't

also, voting with me, not stating why, but disagreeing with my reasons is interesting

Someone asked me if it was "delayed RVS", forgot who. I wanted Vasex to explain the motives behind the inconsistent or abnormal posts. "delayed RVS" could describe it, but it was more than a random vote. I disagree with your reasons, but I agree some of Vasex's posts are abnormal - NAI for now until Vasex can explain them.

I have to disagree with your first line. Speaking from experience, you just can't try to read every post as towny or scummy. I don't understand what you mean by an "informed perspective", do you mean posts reveal what information players have?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Someone asked me if it was "delayed RVS", forgot who.

<--

I don't understand what you mean by an "informed perspective",

An informed perspective would be either scum or masons, and since only 33% of games have masons it usually implies scum.

Can you let us know when you're done with your catchup?

[Vasex]

NAI

Okay, what does it mean?
Could you please be more understandable? Thank you.
Please quote my phrases that still need to be explained for about two or three days already? You are still waiting, really?
And what do you think about my posts upper?

[FBJim]

@vasex

day 1 distancing (hostile activity toward scumpartner, either fighting or forming an early wagon) seems well known from wiki/skimming various concluded newbie games.

also think youre reading too much into my non-interaction with a player who has barely posted.


right now, town reads for me are
you (decent)
trq (decent/strong)
kittytacky(decent, though tone based)
fairyprincess69(decent, though tone based)
floo(soft/nil)

the rest I'm unsure about. HUB and Ydrasse don't make much sense to me as a pair because it'd look super bad if i got the hook, flipped green and they both were pressing on me on day 1. Don't really have scum vibes right now on HUB anyway. Flow Trap is a total cypher and explicitly playing anti-town.



incidentally if floo ends up kicked for prod, does your opinion change?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

NAI stands for "not alignment indicative" i.e. doesn't tell you anything about whether they're town or scum

[Vasex]

incidentally if floo ends up kicked for prod, does your opinion change?

As you can see he came just in time, lol.
So it is unlikely gonna happen.

[FBJim]

wow floo posted and ruined my question smh


seconded on awaiting catchup from him

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

What's your take on ydra, Jim?