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[cassowary]

I'm wondering about the excess death last night as well. I want to say the Kop kill was town-motivated, because IIRC Fidget/Kop were fairly widely suspected, and Fidget might very well have been eliminated had she not swapped out. I wonder if it's the consequence of an overzealous townie who thought they'd spotted scum early on. Just seems like a weird choice for a scum-motivated kill, since I feel like scum would have wanted to push Kop as a suspect day 2.

[Marky Mark]

I'm wondering about the excess death last night as well. I want to say the Kop kill was town-motivated, because IIRC Fidget/Kop were fairly widely suspected, and Fidget might very well have been eliminated had she not swapped out. I wonder if it's the consequence of an overzealous townie who thought they'd spotted scum early on. Just seems like a weird choice for a scum-motivated kill, since I feel like scum would have wanted to push Kop as a suspect day 2.

Preach. Kop seems like a fairly reasonable vig target to me n1. That explanation feels more likely than Grendel not mentioning his killer passive ability and then kop deciding to visit him to try and deathblock him or similar and dying.

[Gamma Emerald]

VC

[Grendel]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

[Grendel]

Flea is just weird town

[Dannflor]

Everyone thought my reply to Markymark’s case on the NK
15 slot was genuine, but actually I was being sarcastic. I didn’t feel the way Marky worded it sounded particularly like a scum case. I’m of the opinion that scum generally don’t intentionally misrep as often as people think they do. But now that I’ve gone back and read myself I think I was just still having trouble with markymarks style and I can see where he’s coming from, although NK15 is more null for me than anything else

To the rest of my reads:

Now I will say I Flea hasn’t done anything strongly town individually, but fae have had a consistently towny attitude towards the game in a lot of small ways IMO. I think fae fall into the camp of townies doing outrageous things

Am coming around on Markymark, in fact that read has reversed completely.

Liking Cassowary/markymark/mathblade/misty/flea as town

I believe that leaves Titus/GreyICE/Nk15/Jesse Pierce

Grendel is in his own category for now. Just btw I don’t think the emotion displayed, whether read genuine or not, is more or less likely to come from town than scum

I suppose the only in danger in letting Grendel live to get resolved by the vig is the world in which mafia have a protective role?

v not clear to me what the mechanical best play is. I don’t think we ever ask for a counter claim though

[GreyICE]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

Pft no you didn't. F off.

Math are you done with the day so we can lynch this.

[GreyICE]

Not personal Grendel, just you claimed a killing role in response to a day 2 guilty.

That's never NOT been the right thing to do with our vote in the history of mafiascum.

I truly wish you'd gotten the town role PM and one of our 'post two whole post and then flake' derpas got themselves a red one.

[MathBlade]

I'm wondering about the excess death last night as well. I want to say the Kop kill was town-motivated, because IIRC Fidget/Kop were fairly widely suspected, and Fidget might very well have been eliminated had she not swapped out. I wonder if it's the consequence of an overzealous townie who thought they'd spotted scum early on. Just seems like a weird choice for a scum-motivated kill, since I feel like scum would have wanted to push Kop as a suspect day 2.

Preach. Kop seems like a fairly reasonable vig target to me n1. That explanation feels more likely than Grendel not mentioning his killer passive ability and then kop deciding to visit him to try and deathblock him or similar and dying.

I agree one of Kop or Jake was probably vigged.

I just don’t think it was by Grendel or Grendel is a scum vig.

[MathBlade]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

Pft no you didn't. F off.

Math are you done with the day so we can lynch this.

Others are actually posting now. I wanna see where they go.

[GreyICE]

p. sure 7 players voted to deadline Jake

[MathBlade]

p. sure 7 players voted to deadline Jake

Pretty sure I had a brain fart and meant Vax XD

[Marky Mark]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

Crumbs please?

[Titus]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

Crumbs please?

Why would a vig claim ever crumb?

[MathBlade]

Math would you be willing to check my biggest VCA suspect to help me out if scum kill Misty and not you? It's a long shot to say we'll both be alive so you can get your result to me, but I'm just asking here.

You’re a VCA player without a VCA on scum Grendel.

Titus give us a reason you shouldn’t be vigged if vig isn’t Grendel.

[GreyICE]

p. sure 7 players voted to deadline Jake

Pretty sure I had a brain fart and meant Vax XD

Ah that makes more sense lol

I'm like 99.999992% sure that if one of the two was vigged it was Kop.

[Titus]

Math would you be willing to check my biggest VCA suspect to help me out if scum kill Misty and not you? It's a long shot to say we'll both be alive so you can get your result to me, but I'm just asking here.

You’re a VCA player without a VCA on scum Grendel.

Titus give us a reason you shouldn’t be vigged if vig isn’t Grendel.

Grendel's pushing me as scum for not falling for his bait.
I don't upsell my VCA. I follow it when I can, but I'll never say VCA shows something when I don't believe it to be true.

I am working on reads but if I get vigged them's the breaks.

[Mistyx]

kop was a much more sensical vig than vax

grendel, do you have a flavor that can fly?

[Grendel]

I think Vax's flavor being mentioned in the write up points to them being town crier? (E.i. a role that gets to post notes in the mod's flavor)

A SMALL ONE that puny mortals would not comprehend.

im curious what the push for flavor claims is about. Im inclined to TR Vax for it for reasons im not prepared to talk about yet.

Also curious why Porken/Mystix were both so evasive about role claiming if they both feel its non-ai here.

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My flavor is my namesake btw. Super stoked since the flavor of this game is loosely tied to a game on my homesite where I got Beowulf as my flavor. It all comes full circle.

My flavor is Grendel from the epic of Beowulf. I basically claimed in the above quote, but as i expected the general population's knowledge on old texts is limited enough that this could basically be a crumb more so then an out right claim lol.

my night action is that i kill and eat a player each night phase. Which i guess sounds scummy, but functionally im just a vig.

I couldnt have targeted Vax last night. Grendel is a ground bound creature.

[Grendel]

I'm actually a vig with a modifier that scum could exploit. Hence why I was coy about full claiming.

But yes kop was my kill. It was a combination of finding fidget scummy, and their sub in being a lurker at EoD. I felt like even if they were town at least it was a non-contributive town instead of an active poster

Pft no you didn't. F off.

Math are you done with the day so we can lynch this.

This will look really bad when i flip town

You never adderessed the post where i asked you stuff. Can you do that please?

[Grendel]

Math would you be willing to check my biggest VCA suspect to help me out if scum kill Misty and not you? It's a long shot to say we'll both be alive so you can get your result to me, but I'm just asking here.

You’re a VCA player without a VCA on scum Grendel.

Titus give us a reason you shouldn’t be vigged if vig isn’t Grendel.

Grendel's pushing me as scum for not falling for his bait.
I don't upsell my VCA. I follow it when I can, but I'll never say VCA shows something when I don't believe it to be true.

I am working on reads but if I get vigged them's the breaks.

I was baiting you? where? :/

[Grendel]

Not personal Grendel, just you claimed a killing role in response to a day 2 guilty.

That's never NOT been the right thing to do with our vote in the history of mafiascum.

I truly wish you'd gotten the town role PM and one of our 'post two whole post and then flake' derpas got themselves a red one.

Actually i claimed like almost immediately after Math's false positive. You didnt have anyhting to say about it then. I wonder why that is.

You were reading the game weren't you?

Your desire to end the day phase asap is just rubbing me the wrong way the more i think about it.

[Grendel]

Everyone thought my reply to Markymark’s case on the NK
15 slot was genuine, but actually I was being sarcastic. I didn’t feel the way Marky worded it sounded particularly like a scum case. I’m of the opinion that scum generally don’t intentionally misrep as often as people think they do. But now that I’ve gone back and read myself I think I was just still having trouble with markymarks style and I can see where he’s coming from, although NK15 is more null for me than anything else

To the rest of my reads:

Now I will say I Flea hasn’t done anything strongly town individually, but fae have had a consistently towny attitude towards the game in a lot of small ways IMO. I think fae fall into the camp of townies doing outrageous things

Am coming around on Markymark, in fact that read has reversed completely.

Liking Cassowary/markymark/mathblade/misty/flea as town

I believe that leaves Titus/GreyICE/Nk15/Jesse Pierce

Grendel is in his own category for now. Just btw I don’t think the emotion displayed, whether read genuine or not, is more or less likely to come from town than scum

I suppose the only in danger in letting Grendel live to get resolved by the vig is the world in which mafia have a protective role?

v not clear to me what the mechanical best play is. I don’t think we ever ask for a counter claim though

There will never be a cc b/c i am the real vig lol

why is Cass in your town bloc?

I agree w/ the rest there being town (Mark, Math. Mistx. Flea)

[MathBlade]

I can’t believe I am about to say this but I kinda don’t want to elim Grendel even though I should. Like Grendel’s reads sync up with mine too much. Who wants to be stupid and flash wagon Grey ICE or Titus?

Not sure which atm

[Grendel]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i want to but i also feel like not flipping me is dangerous long term.

Like if we are wrong on scum today then im getting flipped tomarrow 100% right? God...