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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:59 pm

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Ranny seems like a decent player. Why would such a play be beyond him as scum? I don't get it.
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:59 pm

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In post 2246, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2242, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2240, Luca Blight wrote:I actually don't mind being shaded, but your points made no sense, and the fact you haven't followed up on them means you probably know that yourself.
It means I’m tired of rehashing the same old arguments. I’ve spoken with you about SoS vs Zuko before. I was trying to explain to Datisi how in my POV it doesn’t make you locktown, in the last thing you were complaining about.
If you're Town then I'm not locktown to you because if it's not Elements it must be me, right? That's fair enough. Why not just be honest about that?

Saying I was suspicious for voting Zuko over SoS D1 is complete and utter
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In post 2246, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2242, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2240, Luca Blight wrote:I actually don't mind being shaded, but your points made no sense, and the fact you haven't followed up on them means you probably know that yourself.
It means I’m tired of rehashing the same old arguments. I’ve spoken with you about SoS vs Zuko before. I was trying to explain to Datisi how in my POV it doesn’t make you locktown, in the last thing you were complaining about.
If you're Town then I'm not locktown to you because if it's not Elements it must be me, right? That's fair enough. Why not just be honest about that?

Saying I was suspicious for voting Zuko over SoS D1 is complete and utter
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and I'll call it out as such each and every time.
Ok dude, point out the last time I said it was
suspicious
and not just NAI.

Don’t point me to 2159, because it said it *was suspicious with zero knowledge*. Past tense. Go back further than that.
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:01 pm

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In post 2250, Luca Blight wrote:Ranny seems like a decent player. Why would such a play be beyond him as scum? I don't get it.
It just seems the way the post was constructed did not seem to come from scum.
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:02 pm

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In post 2249, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2247, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I still think the ranny post where he scumreads two town players is town indicative.
And this is why I'm never voting Elements today. I don't trust you to make the right call in ELO between me and Ranny if Elements flips green.
I would if you made a solid argument and didn't expect me to rely on Datisis pocket of you.
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:02 pm

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It seemed scummy to me because he was testing the water tentatively, just as he has been towards me today.
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:04 pm

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I feel as though I've made solid arguments. If I need to I'll take the time to consolidate it into one post later.
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:06 pm

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And you're Ranny vote did not look town at all.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 2254, Luca Blight wrote:It seemed scummy to me because he was testing the water tentatively, just as he has been towards me today.
I think you’re implying that I’m trying to see who is easy to elim, but I am not doing that. I’m trying to find the truth about who is scum and who isn’t. But thanks for the tip, I’ll add that to my toolbox if I ever roll scum here. (I’ll be taking a break after this game, though.)
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:09 pm

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In post 2255, Luca Blight wrote:I feel as though I've made solid arguments. If I need to I'll take the time to consolidate it into one post later.
If you’re town: how sad, putting in all that effort just to be wrong.

If you’re scum: go get ‘em, pal!
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:09 pm

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In post 2256, NoPowerOverMe wrote:And you're Ranny vote did not look town at all.
Why?
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:11 pm

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Because it sounded like you didn't really think Ranny was scummy, you just wanted to make sure Datisi had the deciding vote.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:11 pm

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In post 2258, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2255, Luca Blight wrote:I feel as though I've made solid arguments. If I need to I'll take the time to consolidate it into one post later.
If you’re town: how sad, putting in all that effort just to be wrong.

If you’re scum: go get ‘em, pal!
Your attempts at emotional manipulation aren't going to make me change my mind.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:13 pm

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In post 2260, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Because it sounded like you didn't really think Ranny was scummy, you just wanted to make sure Datisi had the deciding vote.
I've said why I think Ranny is scum in general though, so you're taking it out of context? It's not like I haven't talked about it.

I've also talked about how an Elements green flip loses the game for Town, based on your earlier stance.
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:15 pm

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And as we've established, I am always willing to let the conftown decide in these situations. I'll give my opinion but at the end of the day they are in the best position to make the call.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:16 pm

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I was also less sure between Ranny/Elements at the time - right now I'm more sure of it being Ranny, which is why I'm encouraging Datisi to vote there.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:18 pm

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In post 2263, Luca Blight wrote:And as we've established, I am always willing to let the conftown decide in these situations. I'll give my opinion but at the end of the day they are in the best position to make the call.
The only time I wouldn't agree to this is if I didn't trust the conftown's judgement.

In the game NPOM linked Kick was Conftown. In the games I linked Frogster and Joq were conftown. In this game Datisi is conftown. I respect all of these players' opinions and Mafia ability.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:19 pm

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In post 2261, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2258, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2255, Luca Blight wrote:I feel as though I've made solid arguments. If I need to I'll take the time to consolidate it into one post later.
If you’re town: how sad, putting in all that effort just to be wrong.

If you’re scum: go get ‘em, pal!
Your attempts at emotional manipulation aren't going to make me change my mind.
Yeah, we’re past that. I’m just having fun at this point.

But if you’re sincere with the post you’re making and you put aside your confirmation bias, you might change your own mind.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:22 pm

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To be honest I'm scared to change my mind at this point, because I think if you are scum and survive this day you'll probably go on to win.

If it is indeed Elements then I don't think they win in ELO anyway.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:26 pm

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Man, if were scum I don’t even know who I would night kill. Datisi obviously has the most town cred, but I might kill you so I don’t have to go through this again tomorrow. If YOU’RE scum, you might want to keep Datisi around, but that looks suspicious. If you’re not scum and we don’t find them today, they can use that against you.

Wish I could do something to ease your fears. You’re barking up the wrong tree.
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:08 pm

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I don't think it's town at all to defer an elimination to a conftown. You should be conftown to yourself.
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:18 pm

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Yeah, I’ve said that too, but Luca used his meta to show that it’s Just A Thing That He Does
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:07 pm

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In post 2269, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I don't think it's town at all to defer an elimination to a conftown. You should be conftown to yourself.
So you still suspect me for that, even though you’ve seen multiple examples of me doing the same thing as Town in previous games?

I’ve also been strongly pushing for the elim of the player I SR since I have become more sure of my read.
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:37 pm

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Even if you've done it as town it's still scummy.
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:41 pm

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No it’s not, and you’re continuing to exaggerate it and remove it from context.
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