In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
In post 987, FBJim wrote:me: (???): well, if it were me, for miselim-ing a e-1 bait player, i think two scum on the wagon makes more sense than one-on one-off, since the elim-bait status makes justifying any vote theoretically easier. but hey.
Like, Jim arguing a both-on world is actually a polar opposite of my feels. I feel like flow trap was so scummy in how they handled the response to pressure that scum could have been very content to just let flow trap die to an all town wagon. So I very much felt like I've felt towniness from Jim when interacting with them in real time, but today Jim is basically arguing an opposite world as the one I'm imagining.
Basically I would like some time to sort this out in my mind, because if Jim is town then arguing different worlds could be problematic in a world where we're both town.
well, "more sense", not the only thing that makes sense. intuition isn't perfect.
the thing about FP (battle mage's slot), and i may be weighing this too heavily is that FP argued against me pushing against what i thought was suspicious posting from Ydrasse who has flipped town. i mean sure that's possibly towncred gaining and/or pocketing but it wasn't as if there was a serious wagon on ydrasse other than me, but i don't know about arguing against two town miselims as scum (FP was also against the FT wagon)
the other interesting thing: FP argued that i let Vasex off the hook too easily early on day 1. i seriously doubt there's a Vasex/BM world - if town backs down in an argument against scum partner there's no way you try to get them to reconsider
In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
KT+Vasex - maybe. i dont know how much to weigh that neither are experienced. both FT votes smelled a bit - KT's has been stated forever, Vasex is more debatable. i think it's definitely possible for both to be on the wagon, especially vasex would have a relatively easy time justifying his vote.
KT+HUB - both were very visible in the miselim wagon which i consider a point againt - that said, maybe KT's post was a noobscum attempt to pass the vote off as legitimate. that's really my most serious problem here - i still think it's not likely (not impossible) for both scum partners to be in relatively exposed positions in the vote. HUB's defense of its vote isn't really helping me out here - i actually prefer Vasex's bloodthirstiness here and frankly given the eagerness for blood HUB was showing i'd expect a "it was the scummiest player and i pushed the elim, eff off" explanation to any pressure about the vote. might be projecting but there's a personality shift i don't like. i'd call this my most viable team
KT+Battle Mage - i don't think this slot is scum for the reasons in 1054/1055. independent of that both were relatively quiet but FP's posts came off as genuine attempts to get me to engage with my thinking, and not in a FUD second-guess way.
KT+trq - mmmmmmmaybe? hammer vote i consider NAI but i don't want to discount that the wagon was unlikely to go through without that vote since fp and i were opposed. this is one i'd have to look over older interactions to draw any reliable conclusions
KT+floo - same as above re: more research necessary
In post 999, FBJim wrote:guess it's fine, HUB wants more time, floo wanted to question more people, and TRQ is prodded. up to them.
i suppose scum-KT could selfhammer as a discussion shutdown but i don't think that's a good idea. i'm *still* going to request a hold because that's two players (HUB and floo) who i gather want more information
Why don't you want to hang KT? You voted him, then you was stopping the hammer to wait the others, now everybody has talked, what's the problem now? You saw that trq can hang him, that's why you unvoted, did you?
if trq's explanation is that it's busy until tomorrow i want to test it out. and i think this wagon goes through regardless. it's more for my sake than anything, it's a loose end I don't want to leave hanging
In post 1038, floo wrote:but Vasex is now my number one scumread.
So you could hammer Kitty, but decided to vote Vasex instead of that.
So what does prevent you to be in a pair with KT?
In that case Ydra was right and my plan to elim both of you one after another is the best plan in this game.
And I want to add, that when KT seemed to forget to search the partner to floo maybe this is because they are working on making an unpair with each other and forget about searching another mafia in this case.
The right check is maybe to check HUB or BM, looking to the end of the game (and to hope Jim is not mafia; maybe he can be checked too, but he is townie almost to everyone so...). Floo and Kitty are not be checking in this game anymore, if it hasn't been already done, this will be the stupidest check ever.
In post 1066, Vasex wrote:The right check is maybe to check HUB or BM, looking to the end of the game (and to hope Jim is not mafia; maybe he can be checked too, but he is townie almost to everyone so...). Floo and Kitty are not be checking in this game anymore, if it hasn't been already done, this will be the stupidest check ever.
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I FINALLY finished my project, braindead still and pretty wiped out but I think I'll be able to focus on this tomorrow morning. Sorry for the delay, this was one of the busiest weeks for me... ever?
In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
I'm inclined to agree with Jessie that this is indeed a post that exists in the game
more than that I'll have to think about with some sleep
Because they are main candidates for scummies, and if the check will be mafia this will be the waste of the check. I see that everybody agrees that there is at least 1 scum in Kitty-Floo, so the best idea is to hang both of them, so the check should be somewhere in Hub-BM, because they have problems with each other so there can be the last one mafia. They have no such problems with Jim, for example.
In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
happy unbirthday boon is town because it defended me in a way which would be almost gamethrowing
if i flipped mafia
happy unbirthday boon is town because it's not my mafia partner is something
and how is this possibly a read for town!kittytacky
what would it even mean from a town perspective
I meant that if I was really his scumbuddy then he would be very, very sus if he failed to defend me after trying so hard. Thus, unless there's a bunch of WIFOM involved, this is a townread on me. Or am I wrong?
In post 1050, KittyTacky wrote:On a second thought... Move HUB to a bigger townread. He defended me in a way that would be a risky play, almost gamethrowing, if I flipped mafia.
happy unbirthday boon is town because it defended me in a way which would be almost gamethrowing
if i flipped mafia
happy unbirthday boon is town because it's not my mafia partner is something
and how is this possibly a read for town!kittytacky
what would it even mean from a town perspective
you're correct - this is a scumclaim from KittyTacky. Which makes Vasex's unvote very curious.
Explain how it is a scumclaim.
I said to check Floo if he's not hanged today. Then if it's ELO then we know for sure whether he's scum. Isn't it good to check sus-looking people who don't claim so you don't waste a lynch on them?
