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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:45 pm

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You have given extremely, extremely little beyond immediate answers/reactions of you being broadly wary, that in total leave your overall feelings outside of me ambiguous.

The most substantial post is 596.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:46 pm

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sure if that's what you take from it
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:49 pm

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The issue here is there's little reason to categorically refuse to give a brief summary, or engage in even remotely good faith the last 10 minutes, for any reason other than spite.

In contrast, while I am absolutely voting you out of spite and am currently voting to concede because I'd rather lose than carry you to a town win, you have every incentive to play the paranoid moron who never outs any other reads of substance as scum.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 1077, Costello wrote:The issue here is there's little reason to categorically refuse to give a brief summary, or engage in even remotely good faith the last 10 minutes, for any reason other than spite.

In contrast, while I am absolutely voting you out of spite and am currently voting to concede because I'd rather lose than carry you to a town win, you have every incentive to play the paranoid moron who never outs any other reads of substance as scum.
if someone else were interested, do you think the situation would be the same? like had hectic or ydrasse or farkran or flea or bugspray asked?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 1078, madeline wrote:
In post 1077, Costello wrote:The issue here is there's little reason to categorically refuse to give a brief summary, or engage in even remotely good faith the last 10 minutes, for any reason other than spite.

In contrast, while I am absolutely voting you out of spite and am currently voting to concede because I'd rather lose than carry you to a town win, you have every incentive to play the paranoid moron who never outs any other reads of substance as scum.
if someone else were interested, do you think the situation would be the same? like had hectic or ydrasse or farkran or flea or bugspray asked?
I would fucking hope so, jesus christ
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm

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Hope that it was different*
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:56 pm

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I have been more than happy to this point to assume the worst in you, and would be extremely happy to leave questioning you to others!

If only anyone actually bothered to call you on garbage, but they don't. They do like I have and have left you to sit. And so the task falls back to me.

And while I'd like to just concede the game immediately and get out, there is fortunately one more option: If we vote right, I'm only stuck in here for 4 more irl days!

So here I am! Step 1!
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:58 pm

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like you get upset with me, keep saying i'm terrible, decide that i need to prove to you specifically i am town once again, and i am supposed to just assume you are town? because you say things like 'i am constantly reevaluating' which simply means that as mafia you would know to do things like 'farkran is definitely mafia' ope 'farkran is town now!'
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 1051, madeline wrote:just add me to the 'assumed town' pile

{costello, hectic, madeline}

and tada
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 1082, madeline wrote:like you get upset with me, keep saying i'm terrible, decide that i need to prove to you specifically i am town once again,
and i am supposed to just assume you are town?
because you say things like 'i am constantly reevaluating' which simply means that as mafia you would know to do things like 'farkran is definitely mafia' ope 'farkran is town now!'
This is my intent if I am scum

Spoiler: This is not at all my intent if I am town.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:00 pm

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Also Farkran has literally never left my PoE lol, he's never dropped below #2.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:05 pm

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You have to do work to prove that I am mafia and convince other people to vote me.

If you don't want to dialogue with me you don't have to, but let me be clear: Me forcing this conversation is doing your job for you.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:05 pm

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The line about Farkran is great, but is there more? And why do I have to pull teeth to get something you should be laying out to other players?
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:11 pm

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madeline wrote:because you say things like 'i am constantly reevaluating' which simply means that as mafia you would know to do things like 'farkran is definitely mafia' ope 'farkran is town now!'
Can you be a bit more specific as to why I need to make this switch?
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 1088, Costello wrote:
madeline wrote:because you say things like 'i am constantly reevaluating' which simply means that as mafia you would know to do things like 'farkran is definitely mafia' ope 'farkran is town now!'
Can you be a bit more specific as to why I need to make this switch?
as mafia it would be to give a believable read and because it works in favour of the clearing yourself through endgame
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:13 pm

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like function as though my scumread is town until f3 and then kill them!
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 1090, madeline wrote:like function as though my scumread is town until f3 and then kill them!
is your gameplan
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:16 pm

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I'm satisfied for now.

UNVOTE:

Onto Ydrasse.

Unclear what the distinction is between "believable read" and my actual read on Farkran is, also that plan doesn't actually work because it nets town a free clear. The better angle here is that I'm expected to play optimally as town, ie. get the overnight clear, and am forced to swap for that reason.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 1092, Costello wrote:Onto Ydrasse.
like if you're town and confident hectic is town finding one town in {ydrasse, bugspray, flea, farkran} solves the game so i get it
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:22 pm

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The town in that, without even needing to reread, is bugspray and it's not even close.

It is not enough for me, as a player and a human being, to merely be correct, and it is not enough to win the game even if it were.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:23 pm

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In post 1094, Costello wrote:It is not enough for me, as a player and a human being, to merely be correct, and it is not enough to win the game even if it were.
? how would four towns right now not be enough to win the game
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:24 pm

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Does the game end if I, individually, am correct?
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 1096, Costello wrote:Does the game end if I, individually, am correct?
oh i guess i was equating your 'winning the game' with my 'solving the game' sorry
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:27 pm

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If you felt my swap from Farkran was opportunistic/scum motivated-is there a reason you didn't press it or ask for elaboration earlier?

Looking at Gacha Mafia you are a lot more direct about asking players about progressions.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 1098, Costello wrote:If you felt my swap from Farkran was opportunistic/scum motivated-is there a reason you didn't press it or ask for elaboration earlier?

Looking at Gacha Mafia you are a lot more direct about asking players about progressions.
i was mafia in gacha mafia...
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