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[Almost50]

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[Bell]

I feel like I need to take acid to understand VCA.
I read all of what Mastina wrote and my only feeling really is yep, those are posts all right.

Can someone answer me about who's actually talking to their teammates and who isn't. Lilith is bugging me to get off of Mastina and do a compromise wagon. Which I do believe has never led to a mafia elimination in any game of mafia I've ever played.

[Cephrir]

i'm not talking to my teammates. they're not really big on mafia tbh.

[Bell]

Why did they even sign up to play team mafia if they don't like mafia.

[Cephrir]

peer pressure.

[Almost50]

I feel like I need to take acid to understand VCA.

You think Bashar Acid understands VCA?

Also, my team has agreed beforehand that we won't be efforting and won't be reading each other's games. I have yet to receive a single note about this game from any of my teammates (and I mean BOTH versions of this game)

[Xtoxm]

can you paraphrase more of the lilith and ss stuff?
since you have no new opinions on the main wagons since the last 700 posts

[Bell]

Spoiler:

SS: Why did you vote Mastina I think Mastina's flip on Titus is pretty unlike scum her.
Bell: Because she keeps defending scum, attacked town LLD dishonestly and is voting the only person who had any reason to be voting Luca Blight. Instead of pushing or sniffing the less solid votes there. She's either playing honorary scum or the more simple explanation is just that she is scum because she's playing like scum.
SS: With all due respect to Mastina I don't think that's true. Townies can have off games too. And she's kind of infamous for projecting more confidence than she really has.
Bell: Citation needed on that projecting more confidence than she really has thing and it's not just you guessing at or giving her a more flattering picture than she deserves.
SS: A50 is also town btw.
SS: X4546: Also seems townie unless the self-hammer was planned.
Bell: Uh, why would it be planned?
SS: Not sure. But if it was planned I would be because there's very little bussing.
SS: Hopkirk pointing out Dunnstrall was an obvious vig feels pretty brazen.
SS: Mastina is town, love a good mastina self-meta wall now and then.
Lilith: I don't read any of her posts.
SS: I don't understand why Hopkirk is town read.
Lilith: Who said that, I thought they were just leaving him alone until the result is outed.
Bell: How do we know it's not just an an even night scum role?
SS: That makes less sense given what we know of the set up so far.
Lilith: Bell get off the Mastina wagon it's not going to move, compromise on Ythan or push titus or shut up and vote Agar.
Lilith: what happened to getting off the Mastina wagon?

[Bell]

I'm considering executing them both for mutiny.

[AGar]

Lillith suggested compromising onto Ythan?

[Titus]

Can someone answer me about who's actually talking to their teammates and who isn't. Lilith is bugging me to get off of Mastina and do a compromise wagon. Which I do believe has never led to a mafia elimination in any game of mafia I've ever played.

Mine are largely silent.

[Bell]

Lillith suggested compromising onto Ythan?

Replace Ythan with JJH, I had an Alzheimer's moment.
She doesn't believe Mastina and mentioned last game she hard defended two scum with similar levels of certainty and that she's basically just using a weak sauce meta argument.

[Bell]

Lilith wants to know why Mastina is scum reading Agar. She can't seem to find a reason why he's even her 3rd strongest scum read.

[innocentvillager]

Can someone answer me about who's actually talking to their teammates and who isn't

im not really

occasionally if i have something i want a second opinion on ill ping them and they'll pop in briefly, but they're definitely not like following the game or anything

[Ythan]

Nobody is helping me.

[Bell]

Holding a pleasant conversation is a skill you guys.

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: bell

that paraphrased chat is ridiculously concise, its not what town chat look like.
gets asked about a read and quotes something he said 2 weeks ago, that seems really weird to me. why not go into talking about your read. surely town would have some kind of nuance to it in that amount of time.
he's had a weak day phase in general.

would also be down to ignore the fake soft, i think jjh is scum.

[Hopkirk]

i love it when people post their team discussion because this format is uncommon enough that most people won't already have a good idea of what real discussion sounds like and that didn't sound real

VOTE: Bell

also, 5224 responding to me on agar shows no attempt to engage with my agar casing @Bell - want to try again?

my team are having a lot of discussion about tft. Flopz is the kind of guy who forces dragonsoul/elderwood mage every game. ugh. cult/keepers is where it's at

[Bell]

VOTE: bell

that paraphrased chat is ridiculously concise, its not what town chat look like.
gets asked about a read and quotes something he said 2 weeks ago, that seems really weird to me. why not go into talking about your read. surely town would have some kind of nuance to it in that amount of time.
he's had a weak day phase in general.

would also be down to ignore the fake soft, i think jjh is scum.

1. I'm concise. Your vote sucks.
2. Sorry, he said he couldn't find a position on Agar so I helpfully provided him a position on Agar. A position that hasn't changed much. I note that your own argument notes his originality which I posted before you. If you want me to keep updating my reads because I'm bored and go town scum town scum, no wait, scum! Well, you don't really have any idea what you're doing or how to scum hunt. Your entire thought process of how to hunt mafia is a vague blob of half-assed impromptu ideas and that's your problem, not mine.

3. @Hopkirk, that's not what you asked, you've moved the goal post and used it as excuse to omgus. Explain.

[Hopkirk]

i asked how you read agar because i SR agar and you're voting with him rather than for him. i'm asked you how you read him because i wanted you to vote him and/or to know why you weren't

i'm expecting you to engage with my case on him when i ask this. saying 'this is how i read agar' is

technically

answering the question without thinking about why i'm asking it. hint - i wasn't going to like a response unless it contained good reasons to TR agar that i've overlooked, or a shift to a SR on agar because 'oh yeah i read your case and it makes sense, sorry for doubting you Hop.'

you didn't engage with my case on him and just said some random stuff that's surface level at best

i don't like your response

see the train of thought?

[Xtoxm]

thnx 4 feedback
more bell votes

[innocentvillager]

that paraphrased chat is ridiculously concise, its not what town chat look like.

why? what is the difference between scum chat and town chat? ive never been in a scum hydra so i don't really know. i think scum might try to fake a "genuine" conversation anyway, you did that with auro right? i just want to know what's pinging you here

gets asked about a read and quotes something he said 2 weeks ago, that seems really weird to me. why not go into talking about your read. surely town would have some kind of nuance to it in that amount of time.

sorry, i couldn't figure out what you're referring to here

[Bell]

thnx 4 feedback
more bell votes

Sry, when I saw your signature I thought myb you'd be interested.

@Hopkirk, after work. I find Agar's case on you more convincing than the other way around.

[Hopkirk]

Which parts

[Almost50]

Lillith suggested compromising onto Ythan?

Riddle me this: I went to war with Ythan on D2, and you sided by him. I got into a heated argument with Poka

over Ythan

and you used that to push me still. Now you are willing to compromise on Ythan?? How come? In other words; what has changed and/or what did Lillith point put that convinced you?