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[NoPowerOverMe]

Let's just say that my power is not traditionally given to scum. It could conceivably be scum but it would be very non conventional.

what power did you use?

PGO

[MathBlade]

Let's just say that my power is not traditionally given to scum. It could conceivably be scum but it would be very non conventional.

what power did you use?

PGO

1) That’s not a town only power
2) There’s no way to verify that without dying.
3) Are you a permanent PGO?

[NoPowerOverMe]

No it's a one shot but it does say Pro-Town in the wiki.

[Toogeloo]

Oh wait, I forgot klick died. Willow would be the second inventor that sent the gift to Molla.

[NoPowerOverMe]

When's the last time you saw a mafia with PGO?

[NoPowerOverMe]

When's the last time you saw a mafia with PGO?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Also I didn't have it when I started the game which means someone gave it to me.

[BBmolla]

I have no idea what to make of NPOM's whack logic

[BBmolla]

can we elim pizza now

[MathBlade]

When's the last time you saw a mafia with PGO?

Also I didn't have it when I started the game which means someone gave it to me.

Don’t remember and irrelevant
Don’t remember and irrelevant

Mafia member A could have started with PGO pass,pass
Town member A could have started with PGO pass,pass

Mafia member A could have started with some role, pass, upgrade
Town member A ....

Your argument is meaningless and I feel the more you push this instead of hunting the more likely you’re scum

BBMolla why are you not wanting to figure out the inventor situation?

Just chill.

Mastina said she started with one >> passed to Willow or Pooky (I think willow1) >> Pack passes Not Mafia

Willow1 who was inactive would have had to pass to BBMolla.

Which I find odd an inactive player would gift BBMolla something despite not having posted for 9 days.

Can someone please check my counting/arithmetic?

[BBmolla]

BBMolla why are you not wanting to figure out the inventor situation?

I'm starting to think scum gave it to me and it might be fake or something

I know I got a gift, no one is claiming to give it to me, they must have some reason

[mastina]

I should mention: I'm still V/LA and still don't feel like posting thanks to cripling depression but I have a window to post so I should.

why would I? no offense to mastina but I am entirely unthreatened by her. she's super wrong and there's no way she'll ever realize that so it's pointless to discuss with her (I've tried in the past)
she has no power here so why would I kill her

Well for a start you said it yourself--in your opinion, it's pointless to discuss with me, so the only way to stop me from voting you is to nightkill me. I have been gaining power the longer the game has gone as I've gotten more refined reads/reasons and held pretty damn good stances, too, and even if I hadn't...a vote on scum becomes more threatening the closer we get to lylo.

Plus, at this stage, we know that I was nightkilled. The question isn't why would you nightkill me; it's who has the highest incentive TO nightkill me.

And there's literally only one slot that fits that description.
Pizza's a player who might kill me anyway, but you're the only one who had an actual motive.

also I found out it is not a doc shot but a simple doc shot, which means it only works on people who have only picked vanilla roles so far. so if mastina has picked anything that is not vanilla - it wouldn't actually work on her, which means you are not lying about JKing :3

Can confirm, I have picked a role that was not vanilla.

So it's confirmed to be a jailkeep on me.

But for the record, MathBlade: I don't think Pooky would be changing his story here in this way if he was scum; this RADIATES energy of town who made an understandable, but genuine, mistake.

mastina and willow, why would you not take a Neapolitan knowing it becomes near useless the more the game lasts?

I never had a Neapolitan--and Neapolitan isn't useless, because if it targets a VT who never took a role, that player becomes conftown.

I did have a vanilla cop--and vanilla cop, in this setup, IS worthless, so I passed on the role specifically hoping for it to be upgraded to a stronger one. If it became a Neapolitan that means I was right to have done so.

i think bbmolla is the best suspect if mastina was the kill which is what we both think happened last night right?

Correct! I'm already voting there so I'd appreciate it if you did, too!

[mastina]

damn i thought the second vote was a secret but now everyone can see : (

For the record this clears shadowslug for one simple reason:
shadowslug activated a doublevote today.
Today is not lylo.
Scum control how the packs shift day to day.

When you combine those three, you should see what I'm getting at:
If shadowslug were scum, with a double-vote role, shadowslug could pass the double-vote down to a scumbuddy.
In lylo, said scumbuddy, activating the double-vote, would be able to instantly win the game for the scum.

So the fact that shadowslug activated it today, the day before lylo, rather than during lylo, suggests that shadowslug is town. (The only other possibility is scum who made a serious theory-blunder that even most newbies would know not to make. So either the options are really really REALLY dumb scum, or just town. I trust in shadowslug's competency enough to believe shadowslug would not make that mistake as scum, and thus, shadowslug is conftown.)

[NoPowerOverMe]

Show of good faith.

VOTE: BBMolla

[MathBlade]

damn i thought the second vote was a secret but now everyone can see : (

For the record this clears shadowslug for one simple reason:
shadowslug activated a doublevote today.
Today is not lylo.
Scum control how the packs shift day to day.

When you combine those three, you should see what I'm getting at:
If shadowslug were scum, with a double-vote role, shadowslug could pass the double-vote down to a scumbuddy.
In lylo, said scumbuddy, activating the double-vote, would be able to instantly win the game for the scum.

So the fact that shadowslug activated it today, the day before lylo, rather than during lylo, suggests that shadowslug is town. (The only other possibility is scum who made a serious theory-blunder that even most newbies would know not to make. So either the options are really really REALLY dumb scum, or just town. I trust in shadowslug's competency enough to believe shadowslug would not make that mistake as scum, and thus, shadowslug is conftown.)

Double votes don’t work in lylo but I agree Slug is probably town.

I am spiritually voting Molla but I think we may be able to net a second scum if we slow play this.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lets just get a scum kill on the board

VOTE: bbmolla

[MathBlade]

I don’t like how fast this is building before we get a replace in or solve the mechanical questions.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: no elim

ok sure let's wait whateva

[mastina]

So on the bright side: we've got a new slot for NPOM to help clarify the alignment thereof...

[MathBlade]

So on the bright side: we've got a new slot for NPOM to help clarify the alignment thereof...

Considering some of NPOM’s posts I am very happy for this and that’s all I wanna say about it and they’re still a scumread.

[Gypyx]

Prodding not_mafia

[Not_Mafia]

mastina and willow, why would you not take a Neapolitan knowing it becomes near useless the more the game lasts?

Correction:

BBmolla and willow, why would you not take a Neapolitan knowing it becomes near useless the more the game lasts?

[Gypyx]

Votecount 3.3

We brought pizza (3) BBmolla - Toogeloo - NoPowerOverMe

Anihilate-3

Not_Mafia (0)
Mathblade (0)
Toogeloo (0)
NoPowerOverMe (3) Shadowslug - Mathblade

Anahilate-3

mastina (0)
BBmolla (1) Mastina
PookytheMagicalBear (0)
willow1 (0)
Shadowslug (0)

No Anihilate (1) PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting (3) : We brought pizza - Not_Mafia - willow1

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to anahilate someone, day 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-03-15 04:51:47)


prodding shadowslug

searching a replacement for NoPowerOverMe, deadline is frozen to 8 days 10 hours

[BBmolla]

NM I never had Neapolitan, it’s probably an upgraded role or whatever?

[Not_Mafia]

Okay who the fuck didn't take Neapolitan night 1