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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like why?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its not like mena came on and gave some stirring speech or some shit and obvtowned hard.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought the same as Lucy did.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so now you think scum!skitter is pocketing town mena?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whereas before you thought mena was scum?

ok how did you come to that conclusion?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought: "in the event Mena is actually town, Skitter might be setting up"
I’m not convinced of it, it just seemed to me as an perfectly valid possibility.

[NorwegianboyEE]

whereas before you thought mena was scum?

ok how did you come to that conclusion?

Just read my progression? I literally said why i think what i do.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but mena hasnt flipped yet...

[NorwegianboyEE]

ok but mena hasnt flipped yet...

So?
You think i’m so dumb i need to see an flip before i can theorize why some players might be doing what they do?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And your thing about "why would scum!Skitt defend an easily hammerable townflip slot" well that is exactly what scum!Luca did in a newbie. And he kept hard defending them to the end while everyone else got increasingly suspicious of that slot.
Your inherent belief in the innocense of a slot that doesn’t push someone you think could be town is naive.

[LegoLucy]

ok but mena hasnt flipped yet...

I mean when a player does weird soft defense that have a s->t flavor, the effect is going to be similar on my conceptions to a greenflip on a smaller scale. Scum TMIing you town is townindicative for you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea in a newbie it makes sense to do that because you get town cred and you also have a lot of other elimmable slots and you can pocket the person you defend hard

this is not a newbie

this is a very stacked player list

how you play the game depends a lot of game state and who you are playing against


and no i never called you dumb dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but mena hasnt flipped yet...

I mean when a player does weird soft defense that have a s->t flavor, the effect is going to be similar on my conceptions to a greenflip on a smaller scale. Scum TMIing you town is townindicative for you

there was nothing soft about how skitter was defending mena there

reading for WK vs geniune defense is really a game state/tone read on what the player is doing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It could just be Skitter defending their partner too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think this is a game where everyone will have some supporters regardless. Scum definitely included. I mean, i’d like to think this isn’t the case. But it is definitely an possibility i’ve defended scum at some point because i just want to be friendly and is letting that manipulate my actual scum hunting. That’s just how it is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway i’ll give it all some time, i’m not sure who i want to be my #1 elimination anymore.

[LegoLucy]

"I don't think he's flipping scum here" isn't firm language to me

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s between Mena/Skitter tho.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i doubt mena would be this demotivated if he were scum with skitter

also i doubt she would even bother hard defending him and then they vote lucy together as scum together


norwee ask yourself which world is better for scum skitter


lucy votes mena puts him at e1
skitter says nothing
ali logs in high and hammers mena
mena flips town

or

lucy votes mena e-1
skitter comes in hard defends mena and drives on lucy
mena wagon deflates
lucy gets elimmed with skitter driving wagon
lucy flips town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"I don't think he's flipping scum here" isn't firm language to me

ive seen town her use that language on flips she disagreed with on at least 4 occasions in two games.

[LegoLucy]

disagreed with lie she dayviged the person who put the wagon to e-1 or disagreed with like she said "i know he's scum because i played with in this completed game some of y'all are in, now join me on this wagon I know approximately zero of you like :upside down smile emoji:"

[LegoLucy]

like you don't have to agree with this perspective but it should not be this agonizingly hard for it to make sense to you

[LegoLucy]

the question is rhetorical to be clear, the response is irrelevant because the whole thread is about my mens rea and I don't have the experience with the 4 occasions so it's not a factor. I saw someone using very soft language where i already had a pocketing concern

[LegoLucy]

i agree they're not scum together. I'm not tunnelled on one possibility over the other and the T-T space isn't zero percent but it feels smaller to me.

[LegoLucy]

please don't be reading this post and go to sleep :(