TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Bell]

@vax you can go to and quote from the grand idea thread. What your role is.

[Bell]

Could use some commentary by the people that are actually town on their thoughts besides mine

[NDMath]

1. I don't see why everyone is lying about being town when there are only 3 town present at most. :3. Yet we have 5 town claims so far.
2. Yes, they are likely lying about their claim. Why is lying about their claim in end game multiball scummy?
3. Sure. Maybe. I dunno, I'm not partners with them. I'm town.
4. How do probabilities work here? Based on Magnus flip. There are 3 probabilities right? Random, insane, Paranoid. 3 non-town's in a row might make random slightly less likely and paranoid slightly more likely but each possible variety of bloodhound is equally likely on the initial roll right? Since temporallich said alignment was not guranteed by each role.

Though, that doesn't really seem true given that there was more town than any other faction. So maybe more clarity is needed?
It occurs to me that there must be at least one survivor who hasn't claimed yet. So I just realized there are a minimum of 3 factions left.
5. What about how Temp lich modded his previous game leads you to your conclusions here? Is it that Pooky and I are guranteed town because even though temporallich denied that alignment wasn't connected to the initial alignment rolls they actually were? Or what else?
8. It sure is. It's also wrong I realized. Because the first guy that was eliminated had to have mooched off a survivor and that survivor turned out not to be Korina.

Given the available kills and some guess work.

4 Not town.
Min 1 survivor.

1. I am confused by what you're trying to say here.
2. Lying about their claim is scummy, end of sentence.
4. First fallacy was you had said either insane or paranoid and only those. Second fallacy was that you gave them equal starting probability. Third fallacy was that you ignored the fact that paranoid works with more role rands than insane does by holding onto the starting probabilities.
5. Temporal has not modified alignment before unless a role tells him to do so. (And pooky+you are not guaranteed town from it but highly likely)
8. {Insert sarcastic statement about why you believe that surv guy's claim.}

Could use some commentary by the people that are actually town on their thoughts besides mine

This may be a sign your current definition of actually town is wrong. (Or I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying.)

[Bell]

1. It was a joke. <3. Since at least 5 people are lying.
2. Okay.
4. Ah, I missed the completely random one. I excluded the rest because they were excluded due to magnus's flip and the results as accounted for by Unwnd and sure. I did not estimate which of these 3 were most likely.
5. I see that is good to know.
6. We have a flip and a discussion on Hayker's role and how he would be DOA if there was not a survivor. So there is a survivor barring the unexpected.

Nah, I'm just messing with people.

[Vaxkiller]

Forgot about this. I'll look for it this afternoon.

[Vaxkiller]

That was actually easier than than I thought it would be:

Post #1734

[Guillotina]

VC 5.1

Guillotina

(4.5)

- Bell (1.5), Nono (1.5), PookyTheMagicalBear (1.5)

[EXILED!]

Not voting: Raya36, Vaxkiller, Guillotina, NDMath

With 7 alive it takes greater than 3.5 to exile.

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2021-03-24 00:10:00) or when an exile is reached.

Why did Bell, Nono and Pooky each have 1.5 votes?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nobody tell him

[Vaxkiller]

Is it a cult thing?

[Raya36]

Sure.

I'm a town shop-keeper. I get to win the game when all the mafia's are deadzors.

Sry for how the above sounds weird.... I dont want to break the rules, but that is the gist of my role.

Hence why I new this was multiball.

I’m not following this line of reasoning?
What about your role makes you think this is multiball?

I'm also not understanding this

[Raya36]

That was actually easier than than I thought it would be:

Post #1734

I am still not understanding. It doesn't even imply multiball?

[TemporalLich]

Night 5 Flavor

The pink sun which eludes further description goes away into the night with no further description. After another of these obnoxious time stops a defender has fallen. The night appears to be a little nightly as time finally gets up and starts working again.

Guillotina has been exiled! He was a

Town Five Nights Paranoid Gun Owner Compulsive Motion Detector

Spoiler: Guillotina

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Guillotina! You are a

Town Five Nights Paranoid Gun Owner Compulsive Motion Detector

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• From gamestart to the end of Night 5, you will attempt to kill any players that visit you.
• From Night 1 to Night 5, you

must

detect motion around a player. You will detect motion around a player if they target someone or are targeted by someone (excluding this action). If your action fails, you will receive No Result.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Night 5 has begun! Please send in your night actions within (expired on 2021-03-19 00:50:00).

[TemporalLich]

Day 6 Flavor

The sun is white. Only 2 townies are left, the communication box says. The sky feels like a normal color today.

Raya36 has died during the night. She was a

Mafia Werewolf-Framer

Spoiler: Raya36

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Raya36! You are a

Mafia Werewolf-Framer

, aligned with the

Mafia

.

Abilities:
• Each night, you may choose a player. Investigations into that player's role will return results as though they were a Werewolf. (Note that this does not necessarily imply that there are any Werewolves in the game.)

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia,

[redacted]

. Your Private Topic is here:

[redacted]

• Each night, one member of the Mafia may perform the Mafia factional nightkill.

Win Condition:

•

You win when all the threats to the

Mafia

are gone and at least one

Mafioso

is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm your Role PM by replying with your role and alignment, or by posting in the Mafia PT.

PookyTheMagicalBear has died during the night. They were a

Werewolf Vote Multiplier

Spoiler: PookyTheMagicalBear

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, PookyTheMagicalBear! You are a

Werewolf Vote Multiplier

, aligned with the

Werewolves

.

Abilities:
• Once per day, in addition to your normal vote, you may type

Multi: {playername}

. This casts your normal vote on that player, and every vote on that person counts for 1.5x more weight than normal.

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Werewolves,

[redacted]

. Your Private Topic is here:

[redacted]

• Each night, one member of the Werewolves may perform the Werewolf factional nightkill.

Win Condition:

•

You win when all the threats to the

Werewolves

are gone and at least one

Werewolf

is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm your Role PM by replying with your role and alignment, or by posting in the Werewolf PT.

Day 6 has begun!

There are 2 Town-aligned players alive.

VC 6.0

Not voting: Nono, Vaxkiller, Bell, NDMath

With 4 alive it takes greater than 2 to exile.

Day 6 will end in (expired on 2021-03-29 01:05:00) or when an exile is reached.

[Bell]

*pops head in*
Oh good, Pooky was scum so I wasn't totally off.
I still suck tho.

Uh. I'm town.
Whose the other town?

[Bell]

Nono isn't mafia. Nono isn't a werewolf.
So I guess he's either a survivor or the other town.

[Bell]

It's based on a lack of coordination with Pooky and an unnecessary murder of Korina.
I suppose he could be another, different faction.

[Bell]

Is it a cult thing?

I can't tell if this is fake or not. So I won't line it up to an anti-associative as they would know what pooky's ability did otherwise.

[NDMath]

We know that there is a twilight extender because the twilights have been extended three days.
We know the twilight extender is scum because everyone has claimed but no one has claimed twilight extender.
We know Bell is not the twilight extender because he is the townie counter.
We know I am not the twilight extender because my role created a neighborhood.

Therefore, each of nono and vax know the other to be a scum twilight extender.


And From my POV because I know Bell is not mafia, and I'm not mafia, yet vax claims to win when all mafia are dead, nono either led the elim on a teammate, korina (which is very unlikely), or vax is lying about their role.

[NDMath]

Basically I think vax is a scum twilight extender, and not sure who the other scum is.

[Vaxkiller]

If we fade someone, that puts us at 1v1 tomorrow doesn't it? Would we lose?

[Vaxkiller]

Also, im not the twilight extender, and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.

I don't like NDmaths assumptions here.

[Vaxkiller]

Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?

I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?

[Vaxkiller]

Hello?

[NDMath]

and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.

I don't understand why a Town twilight extender would lie about their claim? Maybe I'm not seeing something?

Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?

I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?

Yeah this should be correct.

Trying to decide how much sense discussing a lot makes.
The more discussion the more likely the scum figure out eachother, but also the more likely one scum realizes they can't win and frustration/venge shoots a townie on us.

[Bell]

To my knowledge there is a survivor who should not be able to shoot.