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[Flea The Magician]

Time to dance.
VOTE: mare[/]

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: mare

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: mare

[Flea The Magician]

MARU! <3 best chonki catto!

I have got no clue why you lot are trying to mechanics the bomb. They boom when they boom.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: flea the Magician

Maybe Vanderflea team?

BUT MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

[Flea The Magician]

Thats always bad times when the mod has to remind ya'll of the setup xD

[Flea The Magician]

Ya'll are being too quiet, I'm going to end up doing something I never do soon....

[Flea The Magician]

an interesting thing about this setup is the goon is a pseudo-godfather à la vengeful 5p.

if we elim the goon first, it essentially vanilla-ises the suicide bomber.

we should find the goon first.

VOTE: Vanderscamp

This is a serious vote, and I aint telling any of you why.

Vanderscamp and Menalque, PG4 solve from an idiot

Who's with me?

If not, convince me why. Hoopla is town, Ythan is probstown.

[Flea The Magician]

I got my prod, and was like, oh I should post or do something, but this game is so slow and I realized that Mare don't care.

So now I'm committing to being Flea's doublevote today for better or worse.

Unlucky for you I am NOT the person you want to have a doublevote power

Instead of being a speedbump be a booster! What on earth did I do to be worth assigning your vote mindlessly?

[Flea The Magician]

Then convince me!
Do things and stuff!
Why am I wrong? How am I wrong? What's your thoughts on Mena at the moment?

[Flea The Magician]

Then convince me!
Do things and stuff!
Why am I wrong? How am I wrong? What's your thoughts on Mena at the moment?

seems kinda absurd to request refutation to a mystery vote.

Theres more than 1 way to be town and prove me wrong

This is one of the ways to start doing it.

Then convince me!
Do things and stuff!
Why am I wrong? How am I wrong? What's your thoughts on Mena at the moment?

I obviously don't know why or how you're wrong since you haven't given your reasoning!
I know that whatever it is, it is wrong, since I know my own alignment, but that's not really useful.

Mena is null, they gave some reads that I mildly agree with, but I don't think those reads would have been hard to fake as scum either so I'm not giving any cred to them.

I have mild reads that Ythan was scum and hoopla is towny but I don't feel good about either of those reads, I think the hoopla one in particular was more me reading the thread and trying to come up with a read after not getting anything than a read that actually happened organically.

[Flea The Magician]

Someone wants their cake and to eat it... Tomorrow meat world or tomorrow game world?

[Flea The Magician]

Hoopla revolting me is also pingy but I’m kinda waiting on the explanation before I hardcall it

consider my vote like rubbing two damp sticks together trying to create a spark.

Same but I got a spark kinda

Loving that Menalque doesnt like me but doesnt want my complete and utter BS vote justifying lol

VOTE: Menalque and NOW we have the serious vote happening.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Menalque and NOW we have the serious vote happening.

do tell

You give me the bad vibes, you feel jumpy and theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo

[Flea The Magician]

I don’t wanna doublevote Flea anymore.

Smartest play all game.

[Flea The Magician]

And now some food for thought.

Mare is the only one who has been ran up to L-1 and none of the other wagong that have been formed are sticking. Let's talk and think about that for a moment

I've already digested that, but given its RVS I can't see scum being that worried about it really. Still taken into consideration though

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: Mater, mater, mater deiua

1 You give me the bad vibes, 2 you feel jumpy and 3 theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification 4
and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo

(1) ok, y

(2) ok, y

(3) uh, actually I tend to do this whenever someone votes me unless I think I’ve been actively scummy

(4) why is it noteworthy that I tend to focus on my attackers? Like, I’m at e-1, I know that it’s very likely that one of those 4 people is scum, are you expecting me to not be primarily interested in sorting there?

You fail the vibe check. Thats all there is to it.
You covered this later on, so you know why.
Misrep by extraction from context
I'm a reflexive hunter as well, I don't often go looking for fights - Difference is I look on and off the wagon as well. As well as going to my attackers, who isnt on that wagon who I'd expect to be?

And now some food for thought.

Mare is the only one who has been ran up to L-1 and none of the other wagong that have been formed are sticking. Let's talk and think about that for a moment

This isn’t true tho?

I have also been at E-1 and I’m not sure mare actually ever got to E-1?

Will have to check VCs but pretty sure they did.

given its RVS I can't see scum being that worried about it really.

This doesn’t really make sense given that one of your reasons for disliking me is that I’m “jumpy” supposedly

Youre really good at this content extraction thing aincha.
Given that this is referring to Mares wagon, I don't see how you see fit to not only remove its context but respond to it.

Having too many TRs is probably a bit +scum for me, it's more of a problem for me as scum, but it's also a problem in most of my towngames

Oddly enough, towninfinity.

Spoiler: Mater, Mater uoretontipe

Oo-roe-ton-tee-pey - Old Gaulish is cool

You took my pagetop, so no, I won't do it yet.

Also ending the day right now would feel just like stepping on a little bug when I'm big game hunting right now.

No to mention its anti-town.

Okay I may have been wrong about mare

Vibe Check Status: "Dick Dastardly"

o.o Never had that result before...

In panic room I tried to make sure that the reads were justified, whereas I just say what I think as town regardless of whether I can articulate it

I don't know where you're getting the idea that I'm hesitant to give reads as scum, that's not true at all (especially with TRs)

No i meant more like

As town you don’t give TRs so quickly

If you mean Infinitown doesnt give town reads so easily, Disagree. I've seen him do this a few times.
If you mean Town in general, also Disagree. I've seen some players yeet out some seriously solid reads based simply on entry. The Lovely Mastina is one such person who seems damn effective at it.

Sike.



I'm pretty sure you can't spoil-vote so if you fell for this you are silly.

Nope, you cant, I expected a commentary on Menal actually.

lmao rip infinity

Were you scum?

This is STINKY. I've worked in a field of cows and that didnt smell as bad as this.

I also don't really TR hoopla anymore

Why?

Similar reasons to vander, she's very not out of her scumrange and I'm a bit more confident in my reasons to TR other people

This is also a like ? thing for you to be saying almost immediately talking about how you’re not engaged with the game

Hang on..

*Dives into the picnic basket for around a minute*

Knew I had some somewhere.

*hands Menal some straws*

You know you can just ask instead of reaching.

And if that is the problem, what is gonna help u to get more engaged?

Seperating this from the game, sometimes its nothing you can actually do because frankly RL blows. You just gotta be patient and show a lil love and kindness <3

Why is Flea that high of a TR?

Cause I'm freaking adorable thats why <3

Spoiler: Mater benoulati epon

Fair enough.

Realized lately that I'm not the best at reading Flea's games, so I'm banking a little more on other people for this one.

The best way to read me, is understand my mindset at the time. Am I episodic? am I in pain? Is it A you have or are the others playing too? Also kudos for reading my games if you did that, and if you played wth me then you already know me better than me being scum here. Hell this post I'm writing right now is my scummiest thing

(I don't think I'm doing that much either though and I'm just here for a good time.)

ME NOT HERE FOR LONG TIME ME JUST HERE FOR GOOD TIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Intent to lol hammer any/all E1 wagons

Ok so Mom is Town and also Not Mafia.

i have observed something in mena which makes me suspect he is town.

need to check a couple of his scumgames to make sure tho.

this is exciting.

the fabled hoopla/mena/infinity town-bloc could be back in action.

I have heard of the legends, but to witness it myself..? I could never even begi

*catches sight of faer reads list*

Legends they shall remain. Sads.

well, i was scum last time. but

this

time it is very likely a town-bloc.

Am I insane for seeing this as a possible scumslip? Lol

VOTE: hoopla

Hehe, nope.

Pretty sure I'm confirmed town so I'm not sure what your point is

Eh not quite, but enough that you're not todays removal choice.

Spoiler: Mater, mater, rigani reidonti

Like I think EV is prooooobably to not lim it and let him take a shot if true

But ehhhh

This gives me heebies. Thats more personal OoG reasons though, dont use "it" to refer to people without permission. :/

Let’s wagon flea

VOTE: flea

ROLL 'EM OUT BOOOOYS WE'S IN FER THE NIGHT!

Yeah you never kill the vig claim. If he’s lying he just gets shot tonight I hope (if vig isn’t Infinity this is not a request but a demand so he can’t kill anyone tomorrow.)

Sure Why Not to this wagon though. I’m swayed by being top TR.

VOTE: Flea

Sooo Menal, remember I said about also looking for votes that SHOULD be there as well as ones that arent? This is one of those votes I'd be way more suspicious of not being there.

Flea, Ythan, Hoopla, Infinity.

These people are currently off my lol!hammer list

Anyone else notice how cosey moms pockets are? Like I aint complainin I just find it snug in here ^.^

VOTE: Menalque - Summary being ye gods Ive made some awful posts and plays in my time, this boi be reachin hard.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm lacking the spell slots to go back and put things back in context.

3 and 4 are a combined point, that you're seperating them is interesting. A player being jumpy is VERY different to an RVS wagon on a player going to E-1.

Regarding the "it" thing, come back when you've been called it and dehumanised enough to harbour a deep hatred for it. I will white knight happily against it being used without permission where I think people are being bopped with it.

As for my vote, I genuinely didnt remember where my vote was. Brains are fun.

[Flea The Magician]

Regarding the it thing, like I’m sorry if that’s happened to you but it’s not what was happening here and it’s hard for me to entirely separate that to an oog thing when I don’t know you at all

But I’ll give benefit of the doubt that it’s just an irl thing and not you playing for advantage or trying to pocket infinity

Honestly that you think I'd pull something like that disgusts me. This is just more proof of you extracting context for your own benefit and naff pushes though.

Honestly Infinity wouldn't even let me try pocketing him after SS3.

[Flea The Magician]

I’m going to feel very embarrassed if I alt slip by the way and I almost did and I would have left out of shame.

I mean, if you catch my alt we're going to have some serious issues

[Flea The Magician]

Hey Mare, any reason why you seem to be endlessly sheeping people this game?

Like first you volunteered to be my doublevoter and now VCA looks like you;re just outright sheeping Menal.

2 wagons have reached E-1, Menalque and Infinity, and lets face it mines stalled for some reason.
Mare is well sus, and I wanna know what Ythan, Infinity, Vanders and Hoopla think of both my wagon and of Menalque.

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry but my butt is more aggressive. Glad to know this is what I get for taking inititive and not letting the game stall out.

VT, hammer away nerds <3

Hero Solve: Mena, Mare

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry but my butt is more aggressive. Glad to know this is what I get for taking inititive and not letting the game stall out.

VT, hammer away nerds <3

Hero Solve: Mena, Mare

[Flea The Magician]

The fact that you’ve just like faded away and not really responded to a bunch of my points/questions and now are just playing it designed makes me feel p confident this goes red

I'm the elimination of choice, my answers mean nothing when my flip speaks so much more. I got tired of your context shifting

[Flea The Magician]

3 and 4 are a combined point, that you're seperating them is interesting. A player being jumpy is VERY different to an RVS wagon on a player going to E-1.

Only I literally was the RVS wagon so where’s the difference?

This is the only thing I don't recall answering, you werent the only RVS wagon FMPOV.

[Flea The Magician]

This is like smacking my head on a wall...

[Flea The Magician]

1 You give me the bad vibes, 2 you feel jumpy and 3 theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification 4
and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo

(1) ok, y

(2) ok, y

(3) uh, actually I tend to do this whenever someone votes me unless I think I’ve been actively scummy

(4) why is it noteworthy that I tend to focus on my attackers? Like, I’m at e-1, I know that it’s very likely that one of those 4 people is scum, are you expecting me to not be primarily interested in sorting there?

First instance of a context shift.
You isolated 3 and 4 into seperate points. They are the same point.

"theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo"

This is one point, not two.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Menalque - Summary being ye gods Ive made some awful posts and plays in my time, this boi be reachin hard.

This is (1) performative given that you were already voting me and (2) not based in any sense on reality given that you can’t substantiate in any way how I’m “reaching”, and lowkey I think that’s why you decided to shelter the majority of that post under spoiler tags

Context manipulation. Without quotes thats a beast of a wall, doesnt take much of a meta dive or even a question in game to find out if this is AI for me, spoiler, it isnt/

[Flea The Magician]

This gives me heebies. Thats more personal OoG reasons though, dont use "it" to refer to people without permission. :/

This is rly obviously referring to “the slot” and not infinity as a person but also I’m pretty sure he’s a big boy and able to raise points like this himself if he were to interpret it that way! Nice white knight tho!

Context shift again, using a strictly NAI and even outside-of-game point to paint it as SAI.

[Flea The Magician]

Intent to self hammer

Eliminations are better than no elims, someone do the job for me. Menalque has pulled some BS to place me in a corner that only my flip will release me from. No matter what happens at this point, I can't not be eliminated.

[Flea The Magician]

Intent to self hammer

Eliminations are better than no elims, someone do the job for me. Menalque has pulled some BS to place me in a corner that only my flip will release me from. No matter what happens at this point, I can't not be eliminated.

if you're town can you spare us the emotional flailing?

we've seen three E-1's already. your elimination isn't a foregone conclusion, so like, chill.

Time is a factor in these games, a lim closer to deadline has more pressure effect than one nowhere near.

I'm in a mood, getting context shredded and twisted and sheep-wagoned on it is apparently my thing. At least this time people got me while I'm here to make some protest.

[Flea The Magician]

Lil close to deadline to try and get that wagon formed. As it is, my wagon stalled (because both scum are on it already) and I've been twisted into a position where frankly I need to be flipped for information at this point.

Ythan definitely needs a lil intention, but I doubt Ythan is worth the flip at this point. Honestly I think a Mare flip would give more information.

Oh and Ythan, uv works for unvote too

[Flea The Magician]

Am doing, been vibin on Graveyard Keeper I've made the points I'm going to make, I'm vexed.
Prolly come back later on but meh.

[Flea The Magician]

I think I could actually vote FLEA here. I wasnt fond of that hammer goading. It seems uncharacteristic

i'm not familiar with flea's body of work, but usually i find the "woe-is-me" act when under E-1 pressure a town trait. how is it uncharacteristic for flea? from my limited observation, flea seems to be the wildcard.

i'm not usually surprised when wildcards implode for no reason. it is part of their repertoire.

Loving the fact you have me down this well in our first game together.

Mom this is weird for you, give you know what I'm like. Question is, is that SAI or TAI for you...


I still think I'm the best elimination option today just because of Menalque essentially ripping the carpet from under me and barbed wiring me into a corner through their crappy context manipulation.

[Flea The Magician]

Menal isnt the primary target for information from my elimination.

The rest of the wagon is. Mare and Mom more than the others. Mom for meta reasons, Mare because ye gods have an original thought maybe?

Ythan isn't going to gain anything and the slot has literally done nothing information wise. But sure. My intent remains though because no-eliminations suck.

VOTE: Ythan

[Flea The Magician]

Menalque has been too far drilled in for my flip to be anything AI on them. Misguided town as well as scum would pull that and my conviction means nothing. Dead Fae tell no tales.

Mare seems keen to contribute approximately nothing and is doing enough to be on radar - just.

Mom knows me better and has damned good accuracy of reading me. She knows my style, she knows my chaos, and more. This seems off for her.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm sold on Menalque scum, just for the context shifting that's been performed and no attempt to resolve the issue and just push, as well as the cheap ass push on one of my boundaries being ever so close to being stepped on when it comes to respecting others. I accepted the potential misunderstanding yet he pushed it a little more. Why? Honestly I think that's the nastiest push I have ever witnessed (and this is coming from someone who has started a tracker for how often they get called out for "bad faith")

[Flea The Magician]

...how am I informative if all I’m doing is sheeping?

You're not. You're literally cruising on the edge of the radar.

Like, from what you’ve said about me you wouldn’t get any information from my flip because I’ve offered nothing new. There wouldn’t be any scum agendas you could figure out, associatives would be weaker and more PoE than actual teams, and so on. That... is a stance that doesn’t make sense.

Correct. Flipping you is pointless outside random chance. My flip however provides information.

As for why I’m sleeping: I’m ambivalent about most people today. I 100% wouldn’t kill Infinity, and wouldn’t kill... Hoopla (I want to give my weird gut pings some time), Ythan, and Mena, today, I believe.

D1 is pretty important. About the only time gut pings are worth anything and a good time to hunt based on those.

Actually, I don’t know if I’d want to kill you either because you’re doing things and also I believe that you and Mena aren’t a team but also, if it is T/S I’m still unsure on who’s who.

I was doing things before you voted me... Remember the game threatening to stall out so I just yeeted a serious vote out without reasoning? Strong gut was the reasoning. Now look where I am.

So that leaves like... Vanders, meh..

I think I just wanna kill Mom.

Why?

[Flea The Magician]

I'm sold on Menalque scum, just for the context shifting that's been performed and no attempt to resolve the issue and just push, as well as the cheap ass push on one of my boundaries being ever so close to being stepped on when it comes to respecting others. I accepted the potential misunderstanding yet he pushed it a little more. Why? Honestly I think that's the nastiest push I have ever witnessed (and this is coming from someone who has started a tracker for how often they get called out for "bad faith")

If you're sold on mena scum then why is mena's push on you totally NAI since it could be misguided town?...

Because I stepped away and detached myself from the core of it. Once I flip, that's the justification that will be used. To me, it's 100% SAI.

[Flea The Magician]

Back to laptop instead of phone, gunna blast this then hitting the shop

[Flea The Magician]

How many games have you played, flea?

Partial Meta available on wiki.

...you called my flip informative though, or like, the entire thread is getting that impression and you misworded something.

See this is the beauty about context shifting. It can be done subtle and accidentally like this, or it can be hard and forced.

Menal isnt the primary target for information from my elimination.

The rest of the wagon is. Mare and Mom more than the others. Mom for meta reasons, Mare because ye gods have an original thought maybe?

Ythan isn't going to gain anything and the slot has literally done nothing information wise. But sure. My intent remains though because no-eliminations suck.

VOTE: Ythan

Here is the context.

MY

elimination provides information on you, not your elimination. "The Entire Thread" is not just us 3 btw, nice strawman.

[Flea The Magician]

Oh my scum game can be absolutely beautiful, and I will point you to SS3 where I self voted the entire second phase as scum.

The information gained from your flip would be associatives on me and Menalque, or youre attempting to pocket, it would need closer look with context.

My flip I feel gives greater information right now.

[Flea The Magician]

I will also give you my shitty phrasing on that post, your flip provides more than Ythans, mine gives more still.

[Flea The Magician]

Thanks for the link, flea, but I was wondering if you were new to werewolf, not your specific games on this site

I've done this a LONG time, usually with amdrams and LARPers. I used to run some seriously weird ones that work well in person/on cam with peoples characters and not well on this format.

[Flea The Magician]

Hmmm.

You seem paranoid that people are out to get you (context shifting, straw manning).

The context shifts are real, yours I believe was unintentional but it goes to show how the psychology aspect of this game goes.

You went for a bigger "scarier" target than me directly, a strawman.

Yes I'm paranoid, wiki or gtkas for MH information

[Flea The Magician]

Like, excepting anything else, just look at gamestate and flea’s reaction around faer wagon:

-Wagon on flea is v close to hammer
-Big push towards close of day to move it off
-Flea insisting that faer elim would be good/lying and saying that fae’ll selfhammer while actually trying hard to survive

That should really be enough, but then it’s p much additionally telling that the push is onto a non-content slot rather than onto someone scummy

I also find hoopla’s logic dubious: if, fhpov, flea-me is TvT then there’s a 40% chance of hitting scum in the rest. If it’s TvS then there’s a 20% chance in the rest of a 50% chance voting in the two of us. If it’s SvS there’s a 100% chance

So I’m failing to see what the benefit is in voting outside of me/flea unless you strongly believe it’s TvT and as far as I can tell hoopla’s point isn’t that, it’s just that we’re not SvS

Wouldnt be my first wagon I've hammered and pushed on myself. My wagon stalled out, as did the others. Those are reason to scumread me. I'm suspicious of the focus move off me, Hoopla will be getting a good looking over if I survive. (Remember I said about looking on and off the wagon? yeah.) I fully agree Ythan is a low content slot that needed more time to be pushed for anything beneficial.
I said the gamestate and my position was compromised to the extent that I am now a required removal. (well played, by the way. Excellent manipulation and adjustments)

[Flea The Magician]

1 You give me the bad vibes, 2 you feel jumpy and 3 theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification 4
and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo

(1) ok, y

(2) ok, y

(3) uh, actually I tend to do this whenever someone votes me unless I think I’ve been actively scummy

(4) why is it noteworthy that I tend to focus on my attackers? Like, I’m at e-1, I know that it’s very likely that one of those 4 people is scum, are you expecting me to not be primarily interested in sorting there?

First instance of a context shift.
You isolated 3 and 4 into seperate points. They are the same point.

"theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo"

This is one point, not two.

^posts like this are just fucking awful for instance

It’s entirely immaterial that I split my thoughts into two bullet points. It changes nothing on the substance of what’s being said, nor can it reasonably be said to be “shifting the context” given that nothing changes in the meaning of what’s being said. Like if you merge 3&4 into one thing it says the the same thing

So this is flea looking at the post and going “hmm, shit, how can I criticise mena/discredit this? Okay, I guess his thought process is a bit weird to format it this way... what if I say that’s context shifting?”

Like it’s just clearly not a good faith attempt to engage with what I’m saying lol

Oh here we go the bad faith bollocks returns.

You separating the point into two devalues and removes the context of the whole. Instead of acknowledging this you're still poking at it determined to keep it devalued and discredited as I think it hit a nerve. For something so weak of a point on D1, youve attempted to dismantle and devalue it at much as possible. That changes the context, the direction and the point of half, and devalues the other.

You are a bad-faith player, of the two of us. I have acknowledged my fuck ups and where context has been misinterpreted, you have not and instead attempted to keep at the same point.

VOTE: Flea
Try me. This is TvS at best, and I'm the wagon of choice here as clearly stated many times. Lets do this.

[Flea The Magician]

I do think though that Flea’s paranoia/accusations towards like... everyone it feels like... means fae is probably town? And that I have genuinely seen them before be okay with being the vote while also still fighting against it.

Idk, fae don’t have that much paranoia towards everyone as far as I can see

And like there’s a difference imo between being okay with being the lim and trying to help town after you go, and incredibly performative stuff like “I’ll selfhammer” which is like... no, no you won’t, because it’s awful as town for no benefit, and it’s actively losing as scum. So you’re just saying it as a tactic

An elimination is required, I've given a summary of my reads and the connections and reasons.

[Flea The Magician]

Even if I am not eliminated, I need to be shot. I cannot see D2 otherwise I'm a liability.

To surrmise because I'm now stepping away from this:
Hoopla's buddy attempt and redirection is SAI massively.
Mares inability to create content without pressure is suspicious. Blind sheeping and reversal of read on me is well sus. Awareness of my meta but not my greatest play on site is suspicious.
Moms shift onto me is bad for Meta reasons, therefore as a whole NAI.
Menalques tunnel onto me is frankly disgusting and ngl I FUCKING LOATHE PEOPLE WHO PULL THE BAD FAITH SHIT ON ME to the point I genuinely no longer want to play here with random butts pulling this on me. You wanna hit a button that hits all my nerves? There you go.

I stand by Menalque/Mare team. Hoopla is a possibility.

[Flea The Magician]

Better idea..
UNVOTE:

Both are are E-2, I'll hammer whichever.

[Flea The Magician]

Chaos is as chaos does. There is a reason.

[Flea The Magician]

Oh god please actually kill him right now LMAO.

VOTE: Ythan I don't remember if my vote's here or not but it is now for sure.

your vote was already there.

[Flea The Magician]

Menalques tunnel is absolutely disgusting btw. How can you still be locked in that hard on a tunnel?

[Flea The Magician]

That, however, is my cue.
VOTE: Ythan

[Flea The Magician]

Good shot whoever that was!

[Flea The Magician]

Blegh, I dont think Vanderscum sits on their buddy that long so amma have to say Menalque is town...

Mare and Mom are where I'm probably going to look, mom is giving me the heebies so amma look over her later.

[Flea The Magician]

What I'm most curious about... is why the Menal switch from me to Ythan

[Flea The Magician]

What I'm most curious about... is why the Menal switch from me to Ythan

I didn’t feel like forcing you through vs conftown and hoopla made a good point re: mom prob not being your partner which meant it was 50/50 between Ythan and vanders

Maybe I'm having (yet another) moment... The wagons were me and Ythan, both at E-2.

You could have still pushed my elimination quite easily given how confident you were in your scumread on me. Yet you bailed, knowing I had full intent to hammer either wagon.

[Flea The Magician]

What I'm most curious about... is why the Menal switch from me to Ythan

I didn’t feel like forcing you through vs conftown and hoopla made a good point re: mom prob not being your partner which meant it was 50/50 between Ythan and vanders

Maybe I'm having (yet another) moment... The wagons were me and Ythan, both at E-2.

You could have still pushed my elimination quite easily given how confident you were in your scumread on me. Yet you bailed, knowing I had full intent to hammer either wagon.

I mean, yea, I could have gotten into a huge shitfight with hoopla about it and maybe forced it through anyway even if she didn’t want to, but if I’m fairly happy with there being a lim on scum in the pair she wants then... it’s just unnecessary

Well you werent scared to get in a fight with me.

If you want to send me out of this game and not be part of that LyLo, be my guest.

[Mom/Mena] probably wins I think.

You are FAR too passive imo.

[Flea The Magician]

29 hours since the last game relevant post, are you kidding me.
VOTE: Mom

and nobodies talking so I aint saying a damn thing else I already tried stirring this game up and got shot for it, so stuff ya.

[Flea The Magician]

Mom you know you need to make stuff happen.

Menal is annoyingly clear by associative from yesterday imo.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm happy yeeting Mom and Mare.

Mom for meta, knowing I'm an easy mislim if pushed from the right angle and knows I will goad hammers and self-hammer for results.
Mare because thats no horse, that's a sheep trying to stay clean off radar.

[Flea The Magician]

@flea Given how few scumgames you have on site (I don't think mara has experience with scum!you) why did you expect her to confidently TR you here based on meta?

Mom knows I'm a freaking weird player, and I'm confident she can read me like a book.

Yesterdays wagons were stalling out, deadline was approaching and I was 100% sold on a Menal/Mare scumteam.
Look at moms reasons for my town self-elimination plays.

[Flea The Magician]

I'd say I'm upset by that but youre not wrong on the pocketing part >.< Doesnt help I dive in willingly xD

[Flea The Magician]

I don't know what to say honestly, like, I'm a bit checked out right now, if that wasn't theatre like, my options are literally Mena/Mom LMAO.

Mom > Mena, just because Mom feels like the common denominator for like... everyone, to vote on, but I genuinely won't complain if I'm elimmed because then I won't have to feel bad over miselimming and trying to sort Elo.

Frankly though I'd take it a step further and say if I'm sent to Elo, Infinity should just tell me what to do. I'd deadsheep her if she wanted, etc, blood's off my hands.

Like I dunno, I just feel like it's a bit obvious ATP but we all have to work like that.

SO yeah.

And this is my problem with you, you are a literal sheep -.-;
VOTE: Mare

[Flea The Magician]

Love the fact me and Mare have inverted our reads on Menalque.

Mare the problem is you are literally opensheeping. Youre happy to do nothing and let everyone carry on. If you're not scum, you're a big ELO risk, honestly. Your ambivalence to EVERYTHING is so half arsed you literally have near zero original thoughts.

[Flea The Magician]

Like, I have sheeped some, yes. But that isn’t the entirety of my play and I don’t get how of all the things you extract that from me. It’s like you’re just taking the broadest, shallowest strokes and applying them for the benefit of not reading me.

Whether that’s because you just play like that or have a ~scum agenda~, IDK.

You have literally made no impact on me all game aside from being *here*. Your contributions have been *null*.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Mom Cross vote it is.

GG scum.

[Flea The Magician]

Menal I know who you're leading, mom is my only option anyway at this point as you're annoyingly clear in my head. Just make the right move.

[Flea The Magician]

now to see if i was right or not

[Flea The Magician]

Nope, I am town.

[Flea The Magician]

If it is you Menal then my early accuracy is improving

[Flea The Magician]

I really gotta learn to stick to my early gut, mom you know me better than this

[Flea The Magician]

Getting one right is an improvement that's following a trend with me

[Flea The Magician]

IM SORRY

I was weird, I got the feels that you were intentionally trying to envoke your town meta and like idk

Srry faer

Mom you know I just roll with it, that said I know what happens when I try and get serious now xD

Credit to flea for calling the scumteam on d1

I couldnt go that far I had solid pushes on both yeah but I wouldnt say I called it

[Flea The Magician]

Vanderscamp and Menalque, PG4 solve from an idiot

Maybe you weren't pushing it the whole time, but you still get props for this

Oh nuts I forgot about that!

*happy dances*

I made it, I'm gunna use it.