Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: VPBaltar

I'm VLA until Friday Night.

[VP Baltar]

I wish I was dead.

[VP Baltar]

Who was neighborized last night?

[RLotus]

Datisi + maxwell + Momrangal case closed

[maxwell]

So, remind me again why Battle Mage was obvtown? Because I hate the hell out of that hammer and everything momrangal has done.

Sorry, midwaybear. I should've done better.

[maxwell]

Datisi + maxwell + Momrangal case closed

Cool, help me bus then.

VOTE: Momrangal

[Green Crayons]

Who was neighborized last night?

still don' t see how this is optimal play

[RLotus]

Actually I'm mostly confident in Datisi

[Green Crayons]

remind me again why Battle Mage was obvtown

BM's entry jumpstarted a dead D1 thread

[RLotus]

BM was towny for like 2 pages then fell off, I think Momrangal is getting too much of a pass

[maxwell]

I had been in the midst of typing up throughts on every player in the game off the top of my head when that hammer happened, I still think andres + Datisi + DGB are town, if I'm right on those the game isn't

too

terrible.

[maxwell]

Actually I'm mostly confident in Datisi

Why's that?

remind me again why Battle Mage was obvtown

BM's entry jumpstarted a dead D1 thread

Who cares?

[Andresvmb]

Actually I'm mostly confident in Datisi

VPB is the obvious Scum. I don't understand where this is coming from.

[VP Baltar]

I found BM to be town because the game I had just played with him, he was a listless disaster. He at least had opinions here and was following through on them. It was an extremely stark contrast from my perspective.

That being said, my reads are fucked this game and I need to reconsider everything/probably not be trusted to lead shit today.

Kind of am hoping someone has some useful info that narrows the pool or gets us a guilty.

[VP Baltar]

Actually I'm mostly confident in Datisi

If I AM getting hard pocketed, I will be bummed.

[VP Baltar]

GC, what did you and Datisi talk about if you aren't going to reveal who was neighborized? Are you confident those folks are town?

[Andresvmb]

Look here's my thinking. Basically, one of {VPB, Datisi} is practically guaranteed Scum. We have one more mis-execution. VPB is very likely to be execution bait if he's Town, since everything he's pushed for has been dead wrong. And given the arguments VPB has put forth, I put decent odds that it's just Scum. So that's what we should do.

[Green Crayons]

GC, what did you and Datisi talk about if you aren't going to reveal who was neighborized? Are you confident those folks are town?

i was absent the first night

in the 24 hours or so, we talked about pressure on Baltar/Baltar's defensiveness, Andres's play, whether DGB is town or not town, datisi's midway push, cookie's claim, whether D1 on-wagon hunting is still correct POV, who to neighborize

[Green Crayons]

Who cares?

it was super town

maybe you had to be there, i haven't gone back to reread it to see if it still has the same town oomph.

[VP Baltar]

Look here's my thinking. Basically, one of {VPB, Datisi} is practically guaranteed Scum. We have one more mis-execution. VPB is very likely to be execution bait if he's Town, since everything he's pushed for has been dead wrong. And given the arguments VPB has put forth, I put decent odds that it's just Scum. So that's what we should do.

I would rather we actually yeet scum today.

I would also rather you and I don't get into a pissing contest again today. Me being wrong is like 60% of my town performances, but I am willing to not be out in front today given I was wrong yesterday. Never been afraid of humble pie in this game.

[Andresvmb]

Momrangal's hammer and case against me yesterday also look horrendous. Frankly, I would not be surprised if Mom flips Scum either. However, I have seen Mom have some really bad reads. So it's not totally out of the question for me that they are Town still.

I don't like RLotus' entrance today. I had RLotus as solid Town. I am beginning to waver on that a bit. Out of VPB and Datisi, VPB feels far more likely to strike Scum to me. So the overconfidence on Datisi does not look good.

I would say one of {Green Crayons, maxwell} also contains Scum. But that one is harder to figure out.

Dunn is always Town. Dunn should literally never get executed here. DGB I would move up as solid Town.

[Andresvmb]

Look here's my thinking. Basically, one of {VPB, Datisi} is practically guaranteed Scum. We have one more mis-execution. VPB is very likely to be execution bait if he's Town, since everything he's pushed for has been dead wrong. And given the arguments VPB has put forth, I put decent odds that it's just Scum. So that's what we should do.

I would rather we actually yeet scum today.

I would also rather you and I don't get into a pissing contest again today. Me being wrong is like 60% of my town performances, but I am willing to not be out in front today given I was wrong yesterday. Never been afraid of humble pie in this game.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. You need to go. I absolutely do not trust you at all, and you've tried to side-line me repeatedly even though I have been spot on about these miserable executions two days in a row now.

[VP Baltar]

Dunn is always Town. Dunn should literally never get executed here. DGB I would move up as solid Town.

I still don't understand these too outside you thinking I have to be scum.

If I flip town, does that change your perspective on those slots?

[VP Baltar]

You were on the midway wagon....

[RLotus]

Datisi has been doing this interviewer mode thing and often when someone doesn't answer a question he will hook them in try to force answers out of them. This isn't necessarily scummy on the surface, but reading back through his iso, I believe his purpose for doing this is to appear engaged rather than asking useful questions. A couple of times Datisi has asked me a question that I felt like isn't that useful and I don't really feel like answering, hopefully I'm not the only one.

If you look at Datisi's voting this game, he isn't really voting where he is pushing. Rather, he is riding town's wave as it were. For example, when he was following VPB's votes onto Dunn and then to RTP, even though Datisi kept reitirating that he thought Italiano is scum. Another example is how he voted midway yesterday.

tl;dr
on wagon - midway > lotus > max >...> baltar
off wagon - dunn > elements > ?? cookie/andres ?? > green > momrangal

probably 1 scum on wagon but also not feeling confident enough in that theory to start steering there atm. also i get the notion that relying on going back / rereading is gonna be less effective than getting new info.

2231 from midway is giving me flashbacks back to 2180 when i was calling him out for doing nothing based on meta (i modded a newbie game where he was town and plenty active) and his response was something along the lines of "oh my playstyle changed haha" and he was just a scumfuck lol

other than that i feel like the post is not saying much at all and like
recent posts are promises of content, and lowkey filler while not really explaining his reads
also what i pointed out in 2062

yeah this is fine for now

VOTE: midway

Says he is not interested in voting on the Italiano wagon, suddenly when VPB shifts attention to midway, so does Datisi, for a very airy reason. He also suddenly began calling Dunn town after VPB backed down from him.

Essentially, he has no conviction behind his pushes, but rather is riding town's (namely VPB's) wave.